Why isnt bobobo 2-B?

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Bobobo is given at least 2-C for his last two keys despite them being infinitely superior to his first low multiversal form, and yet someone like Asriel Dreemurr is given an outright 2-B rating for apparently being infinitely above 2-C possibly 2-B. So why does asriel get this solid 2-B rating for this alone but not bobobo? Either bobobo should get a 2-B rating for his last two keys or asriel should be changed to at least 2-C likely 2-B depending on our standards lean towards.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Asriel is 2B for being infinitely above 2B flowey not 2C flowey

 

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Flowey is at least 2-C possibly 2-B. If being above someone 2-C doesn't make you 2-b then asriel should by that logic be at least 2-C possibly 2-B

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Flowey At least 8-C, likely 7-C normally, Varies depending on his amount of EXP and LOVE | At least 2-C, likely 2-B

where does it say that he is possibly 2B it says he is likely 2B

 

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That doesn't change what I am saying. If flowey is at least 2-C likely 2-B and being infinitely superior does nothing to the tier, then asriel should have the same rating as flowey. If infinite superiority does take you to outright 2-B then bobobo should logically have the same

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Yes, Asriel should be changed to likely.

 

[SuperBearNeo_X]

That doesn't change what I am saying. If flowey is at least 2-C likely 2-B and being infinitely superior does nothing to the tier, then asriel should have the same rating as flowey. If infinite superiority does take you to outright 2-B then bobobo should logically have the same

Flowey is 2-B for being able to replicate Chara's feat and being overall stronger. It has nothing to do with "Infinite Superiror"

 

[Apatheticskell]

Shouldn't Asriel be 2-A for being infinitely superior than everyone in Undertale.

 

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SuperBearNeo In your opinion yes. However on the wiki he is at least 2-C possibly 2-B. Asriel is the one with infinite superiority to either one of those tiers

The point I am making is whether infinite superiority makes a character jump from 2-C to 2-B or not. If it does then bobobo should be 2-B. If not then asriel should be at least 2-C possibly 2-B

 

[Andytrenom]

I think At least 2-C likely 2-B is okay for Asriel. It's not that major of a change anyway imo.

 

[Udlmaster]

STAcking infinities doesn't grant you a tier upgrade, only a "At least" clause

Additionally, I believe Asriel isn't 3-an for destroying countless timelines, Floweys and Frisks. Which is speculated to be vastly greater than 1000 Timelines

 

[Apatheticskell]

Asriel should still be 2-A because he's infinitely superior to 4-D beings.

 

[Udlmaster]

STAcking infinities doesn't grant a tier change.

 

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Tbh i dont see any way being infinitely above 2-C doesnt make you 2-A. Although I can understand low 2-C. Also wouldnt this mean that 2-B is actually infinitely above 2-C?

 

[Andytrenom]

@Read It's supposed to be "we don't know what the gap is so we don't allow tier jumps" rather than "2-B is more than infinitely above 2-C so we don't allow tier jumps".

 

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That could lead to confusion with people saying that someone who can destroy a higher amount of universes could be infinities above someone who can destroy a few less. I dont really see any possible way someone infinitely above 2-C cannot be 2-A or at least 2-B. But if being infinitely above 2-C doesnt change anything either then i suppose it is fine to make the change (until i get that whole revision thing done on undertale which is seemingly being revised on i/o levels).

 

[Bobobo228]

I have maybe a scan with 10-D feats but i'm not sure.

 

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I think 10-D would require a seperate thread. This is more about how infinite superiority affects the characters.

 

[Bobobo228]

Understand.

 

[SuperBearNeo_X]

SuperBearNeo In your opinion yes. However on the wiki he is at least 2-C possibly 2-B. Asriel is the one with infinite superiority to either one of those tiers
The point I am making is whether infinite superiority makes a character jump from 2-C to 2-B or not. If it does then bobobo should be 2-B. If not then asriel should be at least 2-C possibly 2-B

>That's not my opinion. Nowhere is it mentioned Flowey is 2-B as a result of Infinity Superiority. Asriel is the one with infinity superior. Which him being 2-B is a result of him being "subjectively infinite" in relation to the rest of the verse, which makes him 2-B as that just means he's powerful to the point where he's percieved as infinite

>BoBoBo hasn't shown infinity superiority to anyone. I know it's stated on the wikia, but there's no evidence as in scans or statements for that. So that should be removed regardless

 

[Andytrenom]

@Super He never said Flowey is 2-B for being infinitely superior to someone, where are you even getting that from?

 

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What andy said. And this would be for a totally seperate content revision anyway.

Andy So are you able to make the changes? or does it require an admin?

 

[Andytrenom]

Further input from UT experts may be needed.