Worst Users Of Every Power

[Flashlight237]

I wonder if this might get a spot here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slime_Bunny

I mean the issue is not that the Slime Bunny's healing is bad... The issue is the Slime Bunny can literally only attack by healing. In a fight, that makes the Slime Bunny practically unable to win unless it's specifically fighting a zombie.

 

[Chritin]

I'd like to nominate the Suez Canal Crab for the worst user of Large Size. It has no way to visibly defend itself beyond its large size. Along with that however, the crab can barley support its own weight, causing itself to fall over and and tear the Evergiven ship from its back.

Suez Canal Crab

The Suez Canal Crab is a gigantic Arthropod-like creature that took over the container ship "Ever Given" as its shell following an accident which grounded it on the Suez Canal during March 23, 2021. As the ship got stuck, and initial efforts to dislodge it proved unsuccessful, the international...

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[Imaginym]

I'd like to nominate the Suez Canal Crab for the worst user of Large Size. It has no way to visibly defend itself beyond its large size.

Does it not have the anatomy of a regular crab?

Along with that however, the crab can barley support its own weight, causing itself to fall over and and tear the Evergiven ship from its back.

Suez Canal Crab

The Suez Canal Crab is a gigantic Arthropod-like creature that took over the container ship "Ever Given" as its shell following an accident which grounded it on the Suez Canal during March 23, 2021. As the ship got stuck, and initial efforts to dislodge it proved unsuccessful, the international...

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What's the source on this claim?
The idea that it can't support its own weight seems contradicted by this line from the summary:
"After days of marching, where it passed through two barricades, the Crab reached the Capital of Egypt, Cairo.".

A giant crab that can march through Egypt for days, presumably with little to no access water, seems able to sustain its own weight to me.

It also seems unspecified -At least on the profile- what caused it to trip in the city, but it was an overcrowded-due-to-evacuation city wit a giant crab. A pothole? A car? A lamp-post?

I will say though that it's Durability justification makes a good candidacy for its unformidability:

Durability: At most Multi-City Block level, likely lower (When the Crab got close to the tower itself, it tripped and it slammed into the side of it, which killed it[1])

 

[Chritin]

Does it not have the anatomy of a regular crab?

What's the source on this claim?
The idea that it can't support its own weight seems contradicted by this line from the summary:
"After days of marching, where it passed through two barricades, the Crab reached the Capital of Egypt, Cairo.".

A giant crab that can march through Egypt for days, presumably with little to no access water, seems able to sustain its own weight to me.

It also seems unspecified -At least on the profile- what caused it to trip in the city, but it was an overcrowded-due-to-evacuation city wit a giant crab. A pothole? A car? A lamp-post?

I will say though that it's Durability justification makes a good candidacy for its unformidability:

Durability: At most Multi-City Block level, likely lower (When the Crab got close to the tower itself, it tripped and it slammed into the side of it, which killed it[1])

It walked for days sure, but the second it hit any level of disturbance it couldn’t readjust itself and died by falling. That sounds pretty weak and useless to me. I will say as well that the Suez Canal crab is really only a crab in name and appearance. All it does is stand up, walk, and then die soon after by falling. It seems pretty useless as a large creature.

 

[Imaginym]

It walked for days sure, but the second it hit any level of disturbance it couldn’t readjust itself and died by falling. That sounds pretty weak and useless to me. I will say as well that the Suez Canal crab is really only a crab in name and appearance. All it does is stand up, walk, and then die soon after by falling. It seems pretty useless as a large creature.

Fair, I guess.

Checking the video:


At about 6 minutes in, we see a visual where the "crab" apparently tripped over a building, stumbling. Its crash with a tower was... apparently part of an attempt to regain its balance??
It apparently remained that way for several minutes before the tower collapsed, dragging the crab into the ground.

Also, despite its strange shape -Rectangle with nine legs??- its described in the video as though it had bodily fluids & wounds.

"Upon impacting the ground, the Suez Canal Crab and the Ever Given separated The large wounds caused by the separation discharged thousands of gallons of seawater and bodily fluids."
Other statements from earlier on:
"low-flying aircraft cause the organism to ambulate unsteadily."..."efforts are underway to carefully manipulate the Crab's route through Egypt."

So yeah, it does seem strangely incompetent. I'm also unsure how it got wounded.

 

[Armorchompy]

You right, I was only thinking about in combat. I think imp's is still pretty bad because on top of it being completely useless in a fight, it's somewhat useless even for the bureaucracy of hell; an imp is pretty unlikely to actually corrupt someone as they have almost nothing to offer in a contract.

I'm actually going to change this, I was reading through the Fiendish Codex II and noticed that while it's hard for them, Imps actually carry out corruptions fairly frequently. It states that Bearded Devils really never can do it, so I'm gonna put them in the spot instead (Ideally Lemures would go there but we don't have a page for them).

 

[AThe1412]

Jashin-chan

Jashin-chan is a devil who serves as the main protagonist of the Dropkick on my Devil! series. Jashin-chan was summoned to the mortal realm by Yurine Hanazono, who summoned her simply because she thought it would be cool. Unable to return to Hell unless Yurine either uses the return spell (which...

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Nominating Jashin-chan for worst Stealth Mastery. Her two stealth feats are:
1. Concealing herself in censorship. So not only is it ineffective since you can still easily make out that it's her, but like who would see a bunch of pixel blurs randomly appear and not get suspicious?
2. Disguising herself as a golden statue. Dear god, this one is even worse. I mean, she could have at least try to look like a different person instead of herself but shiny.

Both of these would be practically useless in a versus match where SBA is applied since her opponent will get basic knowledge of her appearance.

 

[Flashlight237]

Jashin-chan

Jashin-chan is a devil who serves as the main protagonist of the Dropkick on my Devil! series. Jashin-chan was summoned to the mortal realm by Yurine Hanazono, who summoned her simply because she thought it would be cool. Unable to return to Hell unless Yurine either uses the return spell (which...

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Nominating Jashin-chan for worst Stealth Mastery. Her two stealth feats are:
1. Concealing herself in censorship. So not only is it ineffective since you can still easily make out that it's her, but like who would see a bunch of pixel blurs randomly appear and not get suspicious?
2. Disguising herself as a golden statue. Dear god, this one is even worse. I mean, she could have at least try to look like a different person instead of herself but shiny.

Both of these would be practically useless in a versus match where SBA is applied since her opponent will get basic knowledge of her appearance.

In the former case, she was able to fool Yurine, who has Analytical Prediction, said ability being the only reason why the statue plan failed. These are also both her best instances of Stealth Mastery (weaker/less noteworthy instances include the time she got away with throwing an avocado at Yurine while hiding under the floor).

 

[DaReaperMan]

In the former case, she was able to fool Yurine, who has Analytical Prediction. These are also both her best instances of Stealth Mastery (weaker/less noteworthy instances include the time she got away with throwing an avocado at Yurine while hiding under the floor).

Then her analytical prediction is dogshit lol

 

[Flashlight237]

Then her analytical prediction is dogshit lol

I wouldn't call counteracting a plan before it could even be enacted and calling someone literally turning into salt over an unfortunate discovery (which is STUPIDLY specific; that isn't normally called unless you have transmutation and actively decided on what to turn someone into) before it happened dogshit.

 

[AThe1412]

In the former case, she was able to fool Yurine, who has Analytical Prediction, said ability being the only reason why the statue plan failed. These are also both her best instances of Stealth Mastery (weaker/less noteworthy instances include the time she got away with throwing an avocado at Yurine while hiding under the floor).

If this is meant to be her best then yeah, it's pretty shit. Also, how exactly can Analytical Prediction (not even outright Precognition) help Yurine find an opponent who's hidden?

I wouldn't call counteracting a plan before it could even be enacted and calling someone literally turning into salt over an unfortunate discovery (which is STUPIDLY specific; that isn't normally called unless you have transmutation and actively decided on what to turn someone into) before it happened dogshit.

So... She didn't actually fool Yurine? She knew all along and just pretended to be fooled?

 

[Nonynho]

Scott Lang (Marvel Comics) for Antimatter Manip, because from what the scan shows he didn't even wanted to create/become it, and from what the profile says it's also associated with him self-destructing himself lol

Bump

 

[Random-Helper323]

He can't be used since he doesn't have a profile, but there's a guy named Invisible Boy in the movie Mystery Men who can be invisible, but only as long as no-one is looking, including himself.

Also, for the character listed for martial arts, in addition to only doing those nonsense self-defense classes, she also only beat up a bunch of girls significantly weaker than herself.

 

[AThe1412]

Jashin-chan

Jashin-chan is a devil who serves as the main protagonist of the Dropkick on my Devil! series. Jashin-chan was summoned to the mortal realm by Yurine Hanazono, who summoned her simply because she thought it would be cool. Unable to return to Hell unless Yurine either uses the return spell (which...

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Nominating Jashin-chan for worst Stealth Mastery. Her two stealth feats are:
1. Concealing herself in censorship. So not only is it ineffective since you can still easily make out that it's her, but like who would see a bunch of pixel blurs randomly appear and not get suspicious?
2. Disguising herself as a golden statue. Dear god, this one is even worse. I mean, she could have at least try to look like a different person instead of herself but shiny.

Both of these would be practically useless in a versus match where SBA is applied since her opponent will get basic knowledge of her appearance.

Bump.

 

[Nonynho]

Scott Lang (Marvel Comics) for Antimatter Manip, because from what the scan shows he didn't even wanted to create/become it, and from what the profile says it's also associated with him self-destructing himself lol

Bump x2

 

[TauanVictor]

Black Mage of Light in Teleportation

He needs to create two portals, one under his feet and move the other to where he wants to teleport.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

I nominate Emil from Nier for petrification. I know it's already been filled but from the sounds of it, her petrification falls into the category of useless. She petrifies herself when she dies. But Emil's petrification is actively harmful to himself and his allies.

Everything Emil looks at indiscriminately turns to stone. His entire house is stone. As a result he has to live effectively blind with a blind fold.

 

[Chritin]

I nominate Emil from Nier for petrification. I know it's already been filled but from the sounds of it, her petrification falls into the category of useless. She petrifies herself when she dies. But Emil's petrification is actively harmful to himself and his allies.

Everything Emil looks at indiscriminately turns to stone. His entire house is stone. As a result he has to live effectively blind with a blind fold.

I think the previous one would still be better, since for Emil the power is less useless as it is extremely potent. Turning yourself to stone on death is truly useless since it doesn't affect anyone else, and only works on the users death.

Its like having two knives, and while one can be used if you cut yourself, the other you can't even take out of the drawer until you die, and even when you do die it becomes dull lol.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

I think the previous one would still be better, since for Emil the power is less useless as it is extremely potent. Turning yourself to stone on death is truly useless since it doesn't affect anyone else, and only works on the users death.

Its like having two knives, and while one can be used if you cut yourself, the other you can't even take out of the drawer until you die, and even when you do die it becomes dull lol.

If we used the knife comparison it'd be more like a knife that auto-stabs everyone in a 50 ft radius. It's potent if he's surrounded by enemies. But otherwise actively harmful to everyone around him. And potentially himself as well. While not outright stated, I doubt he can eat the stone food in his kitchen. And without a way to turn it off, he has to live handicapped.

 

[AThe1412]

If we used the knife comparison it'd be more like a knife that auto-stabs everyone in a 50 ft radius. It's potent if he's surrounded by enemies. But otherwise actively harmful to everyone around him. And potentially himself as well. While not outright stated, I doubt he can eat the stone food in his kitchen. And without a way to turn it off, he has to live handicapped.

He has enhanced hearing though so it's not all bad. An ability that has high destructive capacity when left uncontrolled is still better than an ability that's straight up completely useless.

 

[Random-Helper323]

If we used the knife comparison it'd be more like a knife that auto-stabs everyone in a 50 ft radius. It's potent if he's surrounded by enemies. But otherwise actively harmful to everyone around him. And potentially himself as well. While not outright stated, I doubt he can eat the stone food in his kitchen. And without a way to turn it off, he has to live handicapped.

There are valid reasons to treat it as bad, but he also uses the ability to petrify several shades while Nier is fighting them, presumably by tracking the sounds to know where to look. It's an ability that he can't control, but it isn't a useless one.

We're left with a bit of a subjective comparison here. Which gun is worse, the one that misfires if you're not careful and blows away everything it's pointed in the general direction of, or the one that doesn't work at all?

It's also worth noting that Emil has learned to be very good at finding his way around, judging people's sizes and even pinpointing and targeting enemies in battle based on sounds, so he's not as limited as one might expect.

 

[Nonynho]

Scott Lang (Marvel Comics) for Antimatter Manip, because from what the scan shows he didn't even wanted to create/become it, and from what the profile says it's also associated with him self-destructing himself lol

Bump X3

 

[Armorchompy]

Sorry folks, as usual I just kinda forget about the thread for a few months and then make the updates in a big swoop.

Rumia for Darkness Manipulation

During the day, Rumia flies around in a ball of darkness so that she doesn't get harmed by the sun. She cannot see through this ball of darkness. So, she just bumps into things aimlessly until night time. Darkness is also her shtick, so. It's also worth mentioning that she's not very bright either (no pun intended I swear).

"She can manipulate this darkness in other ways, such as by releasing a dark mist, and she can change the amount of light that passes through her darkness" - Isn't it also how she fights?

I know it's technically useful to be able to use blood manipulation for power bestowal that grants a long list of abilities, but until someone finds a worse blood manipulation user, I think Nanno is a good choice to list as the worst one. In summary, the only advantage she can get from her blood manipulation is power bestowal that she doesn't need blood manipulation to perform anyway, and the canonical way she utilized blood manipulation was to her disadvantage.

Eh, it brings people back from the dead and gives them powers, I find it hard to put it in a list of bad powers even if it's useless for the character.

Jashin-chan

Jashin-chan is a devil who serves as the main protagonist of the Dropkick on my Devil! series. Jashin-chan was summoned to the mortal realm by Yurine Hanazono, who summoned her simply because she thought it would be cool. Unable to return to Hell unless Yurine either uses the return spell (which...

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Nominating Jashin-chan for worst Stealth Mastery. Her two stealth feats are:
1. Concealing herself in censorship. So not only is it ineffective since you can still easily make out that it's her, but like who would see a bunch of pixel blurs randomly appear and not get suspicious?
2. Disguising herself as a golden statue. Dear god, this one is even worse. I mean, she could have at least try to look like a different person instead of herself but shiny.

Both of these would be practically useless in a versus match where SBA is applied since her opponent will get basic knowledge of her appearance.

As poorly thought-out as the latter is, it worked out pretty well, and reasonably she could do it with other things too. The former is... not stealth mastery at all.

Black Mage of Light in Teleportation

He needs to create two portals, one under his feet and move the other to where he wants to teleport.

That's not bad.

I nominate Emil from Nier for petrification. I know it's already been filled but from the sounds of it, her petrification falls into the category of useless. She petrifies herself when she dies. But Emil's petrification is actively harmful to himself and his allies.

Everything Emil looks at indiscriminately turns to stone. His entire house is stone. As a result he has to live effectively blind with a blind fold.

It's obviously terrible to live with but in combat that's not bad.

 

[Wonder_of_Fantasy]

Isn't it also how she fights?

Controlling darkness is her thing yeah.

 

[Imaginym]

• Transformation - Humans (The Amazing Digital Circus) - If extremely stressed, they can irreversibly transform into violent monsters, effectively permanently killing them when they are otherwise immortal)

Justification is missing an opening bracket, if you'll pardon my pickily pointing that out, please.
(I guess it isn't worth mentioning that Caine tends to throw the Abstracted into inescapable pits, since Caine would be a 3rd party, & thus, absent in most situations like Versus Thread?)
& I assume the "violent" part implies the (Arguable) mindless part that becoming Abstracted entails?

 

[Nonynho]

Sorry folks, as usual I just kinda forget about the thread for a few months and then make the updates in a big swoop.

Hey, you left a like in my take but didn't add it
You think it should be debated or smth?

 

[Armorchompy]

Hey, you left a like in my take but didn't add it
You think it should be debated or smth?

I thought I did, mustn't have saved

 

[Psychomaster35]

Nega-Chin for the worst Plot Manipulation. As a villain used by the writer of his stories, he is straight up fated to lose against good under the belief that good always triumphs over evil.

 

[Flashlight237]

Nega-Chin for the worst Plot Manipulation. As a villain used by the writer of his stories, he is straight up fated to lose against good under the belief that good always triumphs over evil.

 

[Kellex]

Henry Stickmin for Teleportation, maybe dimensional travel too if it wasn't occupied already.

His teleporter device is entirely unreliable and random as he's been teleported inside a brick wall, a shooting range, an empty void, and a different game (Warframe I think). The only times it has worked was when he took a bit of fall damage to get on top of a building, and when he destroyed the device, it teleported him to even more random dangerous locations until he got teleported where he wanted to.

 

[DaReaperMan]

and a different game (Warframe I think)

say sike.

 

[Kellex]

say sike.

I'M SORRY I GENUINELY DON'T KNOW!!!

Edit: I found out it's actually StarCraft! All is good now.

 

[Flashlight237]

Henry Stickmin for Teleportation, maybe dimensional travel too if it wasn't occupied already.

His teleporter device is entirely unreliable and random as he's been teleported inside a brick wall, a shooting range, an empty void, and a different game (Warframe I think). The only times it has worked was when he took a bit of fall damage to get on top of a building, and when he destroyed the device, it teleported him to even more random dangerous locations until he got teleported where he wanted to.

DND teleportation is possibly worse if you have no clue where you're going (see "False Destination"): https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Teleport#content

 

[Chritin]

This might be a given, but Ted from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream has the worst example of self sustenance. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ted_(I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream)#Jelly-Being

 

[Armorchompy]

DND teleportation is possibly worse if you have no clue where you're going (see "False Destination"): https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Teleport#content

That's like saying Fireball is a bad spell if you use it to blow yourself up.

 

[Nonynho]

The reason for this spell being here is literally applicable to GPS

Also this is for the users
So like Mordekainen and Elminster should be here cuz this spell  can fail?

 

[Imaginym]

The reason for this spell being here is literally applicable to GPS

Global Positioning System systems fail like Teleport/Fireball does that frequently in real life?

 

[Flashlight237]

Speaking of Henry, he might also be a good candidate for Broadway Force and Social Influencing (this falls under both):



This time, rather than being a sucky ability, this one is being suggested because it's TOO DANG GOOD TO BE PRACTICAL..! While, yes, it worked in Completing the Mission, the fact that Henry's Distraction Dance failed in Fleeing the Complex implies that Henry will also get himself caught in an endless loop.

 

[Livinmeme]

Speaking of Henry, he might also be a good candidate for Broadway Force and Social Influencing (this falls under both):



This time, rather than being a sucky ability, this one is being suggested because it's TOO DANG GOOD TO BE PRACTICAL..! While, yes, it worked in Completing the Mission, the fact that Henry's Distraction Dance failed in Fleeing the Complex implies that Henry will also get himself caught in an endless loop.

I mean...If henry knows that he has no chance of beating someone, he can just pull it as a way to incon.

 

[Kellex]

Speaking of Henry, he might also be a good candidate for Broadway Force and Social Influencing (this falls under both):



This time, rather than being a sucky ability, this one is being suggested because it's TOO DANG GOOD TO BE PRACTICAL..! While, yes, it worked in Completing the Mission, the fact that Henry's Distraction Dance failed in Fleeing the Complex implies that Henry will also get himself caught in an endless loop.

Since his broadway force became better later in the series, I don't think it can be added. I also think it can still be useful like what @Livinmeme said.
And besides, I think I found a worse one: Rayman can only make enemies start dancing AFTER defeating them, thus making it completely useless during battle.