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Yakko vs Kratos (0-1-11)
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DaMonkeMan
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At least incon, possibly Kratos
Okay but why are we default assuming that Type 4 aca provides resistance to plot hax? It works on a narrative scale, not just causality. And either way, Kratos' aca would need to show feats of being resistant to that brand of hax.
For real though it wasn't "we" it was like one or two people assuming that.
Georredannea15
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Uhhhh... I guess no one understood what I meant.That case specifically falls under in verse context lol unique to the verse
Not a set standard of Acausal 4 overall LOLOL
It’s not necessary trust me
Everyone here will tell you the same thing
Acausal 4 grants no protection from Plot Hax
The only time it does is when the Acausal 4 in question provides sufficient evidence of not just extending to Time/Causality but to the Narrative as well
You have some characters on the Wiki who have Acausal 4 with that added flavor of context that allows for protection from Plot Manipulation but that’s not the default lol
That’s only when in verse context is provided
By default, Any Acausal 4 that only stops at Time/Causality gets decked by Plot Manipulation
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I have no idea why people are jumping to that TBF
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Idk why anyone's assuming type 4 lets you resist plot hax when that's never been the case, let alone it being said on the acausality page. Kratos is still susceptible to plot hax, the more important question is how fast the plot hax can come out, because Kratos can kill with one swing. If the plot hax isn't passive or thought based then Kratos can have a chance of killing Yakko before the plot hax kicks in.
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just to say I will keeo my voteon kratos, sinse Ithink Kratos will kill yako before he thinks of using his plot hax
DimeUhDozen
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Yakko's clairvoyance will already let him know what he has to do.
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Don´'t really mean he will do
DimeUhDozen
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Yakko's go-to tactic against Tier 1s is plot hax and dimension manipulation anyways.
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Thank You for Clarification and Commentary Glassman
Anyways
Has grace ended yet?
If yes can this match be added?
If not then how much more time till grace ends?
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Nah, It's annoy the shit out of It's oponent
DimeUhDozen
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He used plot hax against the Conductor to make sure he was incapacitated forever. He used similar tactics against The Animator to lock her inside the cartoon.
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This are characters that have plot manipulation them selfs and are present in the 5D plane, It's a exeption(and took a while to use plot manipulation against them too)
DimeUhDozen
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The first reason was because he had to grow an immunity to the first user. The second was due to him trying to work with the Animator because they're basically coworkers until he had hit his limit and took things into his own hands. I'd appreciate you not making assumptions.
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It's still only 2 exemples of him doing that, both against Plot hax users from the 5D plane
He kinda just jumps out of the screen, trough his plot hax is tecnically parcially passive sinse he has the script before the fight, so Kratos is alread inside Yakko plot
DimeUhDozen
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The fastest way he does it is making a phone call that takes a couple of seconds. His spatial hax might help in keeping the distance while that happens.
DimeUhDozen
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Isn't two showing that it's consistent? It's also against the most powerful foes he's faced, so why would he not do that against the god of war?
This as well.
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It if the cahracter has like 5 battles, but no, yakko has a lot more, and sinse he only used thouse against 5D characters with plot manipulation It only implies he will only start with that if he foes against someone with plot hax as well
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Kratos resists Clairvoyance
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To answer your question you can refer back to one of my previous comments
Yakko has multiple applications of Plot Hax, his passive variation includes the ability to script the plot of episodes before the episode itself starts, so when the episode does start Kratos would already be in whatever plot that Yakko has scripted
The problem here is that Passive is typically used by Yakko to create Weird inconveniences and Obnoxious situations for the opponent to deal with rather than it being used to grant an Instant Victory
The Plot Hax Yakko can use to get an instant Victory is not passive and would take a few seconds to actually activate (as he needs to Hammerspace a Desk and Phone, make a call and get a Fax Email) And a few seconds is all Kratos really needs here to wack Yakko a single time for Auto-Victory
Then throw in the fact Kratos is moving at Zero Seconds due to infinite speed, his Precog, Cosmic Awareness that lets him see across time and abilities like Time Stop which Yakko doesn't resist and realistically speaking either could win given both have a more or less equal chance to get of there hax first
Yakko is no fool either and has his own abilities that could keep him away from Kratos long enough and with the Plot Auto-Scripted by Yakko to create Inconveniences for Kratos, it's kinda hard to say who would win first
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DimeUhDozen
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I agree.
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I thought kratos isn't willing to fight minors?
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He must due to induced SBA state of mind. Even a character who don't want to fight at all are willing to fight in vs matches, it's SBA.
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I see
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Imagine if it hasn't been for SBA, why would superman, kratos and all morally good or even immoral villans will fight someone they have never met? Even if they're kid, adults, old that they have never met and don't hold anything against them, they will still fight and will try to win.
DimeUhDozen
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It could be argued that since Yakko’s cartoon physics can affect multiple 5-D orchestra members and broadway force falls under that umbrella, but it’s still a possibly. Even then, I think Kratos could resist it through resisting mindhax so it probably couldn’t work.
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Broadway force is not mind hax though
DimeUhDozen
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I think it is in the way Yakko uses it, making someone want to drop whatever they’re doing to sing and dance.
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That's like...every single Broadway force user.
DimeUhDozen
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Some people list Broadway Force as in just capable of starting musical numbers, so I wanted to clear up confusion.
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