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Hello everyone
(Need 3 staff)
I've finally completed my profile in full, and I truly hope it gets accepted this time around - the previous attempt was a complete mess, so let's just leave that behind us.

I also want to express my sincere thanks to my two helpers this time, who made it possible to finalize my sandbox. @Secimatar & @Youngwolf-0.1

Here is the sandbox:


Ye Tian High 1-B

"Eternal Controller is an entity who transcends all frameworks of temporal and spatial origin-moreover, they are a being who governs all time and space, existing beyond the entirety of the void region. They have surpassed all timelines and are bound by neither causality nor any structure, including concepts like time, space, strength, will, rules, eternal force...etc and others-they are neither constrained nor subject to these. They exist liberated from all things, capable of establishing their own rules without limitation.

What's the Eternal Force, Eternal rules, Congenital/Innate Eternal rules and Eternal Dao?

• Eternal rules​

If an external Eternal Rule touches it, the liquid completely vanishes. It’s described as not existing "between heaven and earth, or among Eternal Rules." This implies that when it’s triggered by a rule, it shifts to a state or place where these laws no longer apply essentially becoming undetectable and nonexistent within the universe’s normal framework.

• Congenital/Innate Eternal rules​



This is the Innate Eternal rules that stands above all other rules, transcending even ordinary Eternal rules. And unquestionably, its power dwarfs those common eternal rules by an immeasurable magnitude."

• Eternal Dao

The Eternal Dao isn't a simple concept like the fundamental Daos think space, time, or the five elements (metal, wood, water, fire, earth). Instead, it's a higher-level principle that combines multiple Congenital/Innate Eternal Rules into something more complex. These rules are specific aspects like speed, light and darkness.


Now, what is this Origin of Time and Space? It is the source of all existence; everything branches from the River of Time even the source sea. This is no ordinary river of time-it contains eternal rules within, and every droplet coalesces from infinite primordial energy It is also a river that flows backward into the past. Should anyone dare enter it without comprehending time or transcending temporality, they would be reversed to an era before their birth-the state of nothingness.

• Then, for the "Eternal Controller" what conditions must be met to ascend to such an existence?

"The path for them to become an Eternal Controller demands transcending countless rules and bindings-all laws of causality, every chain of cause and effect. They must surpass the Origin of Time and Space itself, shattering every limitation of temporality and spatiality. For by transcending this Origin-the River of Time from which all existence springs-they simultaneously overthrow its entire structure and framework. This enables them to ascend beyond all things, even beyond physical or strength. Their form ceases to be flesh; it becomes a body forged from energy they have absorbed and refined, a vessel crystallized from their conquest of the primordial."

Ye Tian breakthrough the limit, ascending to the realm of the Eternal Controllers.

"The Eternal Controller is an existence capable offorging self-determined principles without any constraint. Having surpassed all limitations, they have grasped the very fabric of all principles-transcending them entirely. These rules hold no sway over them, yet they themselves can create principles to profoundly affect others, even crafting forces potent enough to annihilate beings akin to themselves. Such self-wrought laws know no bounds, for no principle governs or binds the Eternal Controller. "Whether they create rules divergent from existing ones lies entirely within their volition-they act solely by choice, never by necessity. Concepts like time, space, dimensions, and others hold no dominion over them. They stand utterly beyond all such frameworks

• Feat​

From the perspective of space-time?

Ye Tian immediately followed Lord Wushuang's method to comprehend the crack. He was instantly surprised to find that the crack no longer existed; from the perspective of space-time, he couldn't comprehend it at all.

So, he truthfully said, "Lord Wushuang, I can't comprehend that crack anymore; it's as if it no longer exists. Even if an eternal treasure couldn't reach it, it wouldn't cease to exist, but that crack truly seems to be gone, as if the crack I saw was false, yet I clearly comprehended many things before."

At this, Lord Wushuang smiled and said, "I'm fairly certain now. The mark you saw should be an attack from an Eternal Controller."

"Eternal Controller, what is that?"

Ye Tian asked.

Lord Wushuang said, "Eternal Controllers are the end of everything, the ultimate peak of cultivation, the culmination of all legends. The ultimate goal of Legend Realm Lords is also to become Eternal Controllers. They are beings who control all space-time. One could say they have transcended the timeline and can even traverse between the past and future. Because their attacks do not exist in any space-time, past or future, they possess this characteristic, just like themselves. For them, things like will, rules, physical strength, and so on, hold no meaning."
"Traversing past and future?"

Ye Tian asked in surprise.

Lord Wushuang nodded and said, "However, although they can traverse to the past, they cannot change the past, otherwise it would cause space-time to collapse, which even they themselves cannot withstand, and the entire Void Region would suppress them. But they can step into the future, which is unrestricted. For example, if they see a certain treasure appearing somewhere in the future, they can step into that future and seize the treasure. Therefore, if any astonishing heaven-defying treasures are born in the Void Region, it's very likely that several Eternal Controllers will traverse the timeline to fight over them, leaving behind traces. In the current Void Region, there are still quite a few such traces, and what you saw might be one of them."

Eternal Controller It has complete control over every dimensional aspect of reality, suggesting an authority that spans all possible dimensions, It can move freely through past, present, and future, unbound by the linear progression of time—Its actions can’t be pinned down to any specific point in the dimensional framework—they’re indefinable by dimensional terms. Creates its own rules can establish how reality operates, independent of the existing dimensional structure.

• Why eternal controller above the concept of dimension?​

Explained:
•They transcends the temporal dimension, operating beyond its constraints.
•Its attacks ignore spatial and temporal placement, defying dimensional limits.
•It can create realities independent of the dimensional framework.
• Feat

This makes it a truly transcendent entity, unbound by the structures that define reality for others.

I will develop these concepts step by step, addressing each phase as it arises. Once you've reviewed the sandbox, please feel free to challenge any point that seems inconsistent or illogical I'm not entirely certain every detail is flawless, and your critique will refine it.
 
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This is not a justification for Low Complex Multiverse level. The second scan also isn't a feat regarding strength but just one where the character flees so it wouldn't be indexable as AP imo. "Countless universe" scan could be 2-C/2-B/2-A depending on the specifics.
This is not a justification for a Complex Multiverse Level. Heck, he literally says in the scan that he became 100x more powerful.
This is not a justification for a Complex Multiverse Level. In fact, at most, it would be a layer into Law Manip.
Again, not a justification for High Complex Multiverse Level. If anything, that would be perhaps (emphasis on perhaps) Low 2-C due to the last scan.

Regarding the 1-B level... I don't see how there is any hint at higher-dimensionality or higher infinity to reach that level. Same with everything else tbf.

As for speed...
There is no speed involve, it's either space manip or just Dimensional Travel.
I don't understand the argument. The scans doesn't help. Is it because the Void is described as lacking space-time? If so, that's not enough for Immeasurable.
Not certain, but it looks "okay" for Immeasurable, unless I'm missing something.

Anyway, I feel like the profiles is severely lacking for now. Also, you need to do a cosmology blog if you want to index a character (and a verse) reaching tier 1.
 
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don't understand the argument. The scans doesn't help. Is it because the Void is described as lacking space-time? If so, that's not enough for Immeasurable.
The Source Sea and Territory of space and time That part is the outer space. The sea source, which is the endless emptiness and darkness without rules, or the emptiness as it is an empty space with nothing, the sea source has another place higher than it, the Space-Time territory, where only the existences of the Eternal Realm and above can live. (Timeless and Spaceless) In that context, it says that the attack of the Eternal Realm has hit and caused the area or territory of the sea source to collapse, which means that they had to travel through that boundless distance to reach the sea source.
 
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Hello everyone
(Need 3 staff)
I've finally completed my profile in full, and I truly hope it gets accepted this time around - the previous attempt was a complete mess, so let's just leave that behind us.

I also want to express my sincere thanks to my two helpers this time, who made it possible to finalize my sandbox. @Secimatar & @Youngwolf-0.1

Here is the sandbox:


Ye Tian High 1-B

"Eternal Controller is an entity who transcends all frameworks of temporal and spatial origin-moreover, they are a being who governs all time and space, existing beyond the entirety of the void region. They have surpassed all timelines and are bound by neither causality nor any structure, including concepts like time, space, strength, will, rules, eternal force...etc and others-they are neither constrained nor subject to these. They exist liberated from all things, capable of establishing their own rules without limitation.

What's the Eternal Force, Eternal rules, Congenital/Innate Eternal rules and Eternal Dao?

• Eternal rules​


If an external Eternal Rule touches it, the liquid completely vanishes. It’s described as not existing "between heaven and earth, or among Eternal Rules." This implies that when it’s triggered by a rule, it shifts to a state or place where these laws no longer apply essentially becoming undetectable and nonexistent within the universe’s normal framework.

• Congenital/Innate Eternal rules​




This is the Innate Eternal rules that stands above all other rules, transcending even ordinary Eternal rules. And unquestionably, its power dwarfs those common eternal rules by an immeasurable magnitude."

• Eternal Dao


The Eternal Dao isn't a simple concept like the fundamental Daos think space, time, or the five elements (metal, wood, water, fire, earth). Instead, it's a higher-level principle that combines multiple Congenital/Innate Eternal Rules into something more complex. These rules are specific aspects like speed, light and darkness.


Now, what is this Origin of Time and Space? It is the source of all existence; everything branches from the River of Time even the source sea. This is no ordinary river of time-it contains eternal rules within, and every droplet coalesces from infinite primordial energy It is also a river that flows backward into the past. Should anyone dare enter it without comprehending time or transcending temporality, they would be reversed to an era before their birth-the state of nothingness.

• Then, for the "Eternal Controller" what conditions must be met to ascend to such an existence?

Pour devenir un Contrôleur Éternel, il leur faut transcender d'innombrables règles et contraintes – toutes les lois de causalité, chaque chaîne de cause à effet. Ils doivent surpasser l'Origine du Temps et de l'Espace, brisant toute limitation de temporalité et de spatialité. Car en transcendant cette Origine – le Fleuve du Temps d'où jaillit toute existence – ils bouleversent simultanément toute sa structure et son cadre. Cela leur permet de s'élever au-delà de toute chose, même au-delà du physique ou de la force. Leur forme cesse d'être charnelle ; elle devient un corps forgé à partir de l'énergie qu'ils ont absorbée et raffinée, un réceptacle cristallisé par leur conquête du primordial.

Ye Tian a franchi la limite et est monté au royaume des Contrôleurs Éternels.

Le Contrôleur Éternel est une existence capable de forger des principes autodéterminés sans aucune contrainte. Ayant surmonté toutes les limites, il a saisi la structure même de tous les principes, les transcendant entièrement. Ces règles n'ont aucune emprise sur lui, et pourtant il peut lui-même créer des principes qui influencent profondément les autres, créant même des forces suffisamment puissantes pour anéantir des êtres semblables à lui. Ces lois auto-formées ne connaissent aucune limite, car aucun principe ne gouverne ni ne lie le Contrôleur Éternel. Qu'il crée des règles divergentes de celles existantes relève entièrement de sa volonté ; il agit uniquement par choix, jamais par nécessité. Des concepts comme le temps, l'espace, les dimensions et autres n'ont aucune emprise sur lui. Il se situe totalement au-delà de ces cadres.

• Exploit​



Contrôleur Éternel. Il contrôle totalement chaque aspect dimensionnel de la réalité, suggérant une autorité qui s'étend à toutes les dimensions possibles. Il peut se déplacer librement à travers le passé, le présent et le futur, sans être limité par la progression linéaire du temps. Ses actions ne peuvent être rattachées à un point précis du cadre dimensionnel ; elles sont indéfinissables par des termes dimensionnels. Il crée ses propres règles et peut établir le fonctionnement de la réalité, indépendamment de la structure dimensionnelle existante.

• Pourquoi le contrôleur éternel au-dessus du concept de dimension ?​

Expliqué :

• Exploit


Cela en fait une entité véritablement transcendante, non liée aux structures qui définissent la réalité pour les autres.

Je développerai ces concepts étape par étape, en abordant chaque phase au fur et à mesure de son apparition. Une fois le bac à sable examiné, n'hésitez pas à contester tout point qui vous semble incohérent ou illogique. Je ne suis pas certain que chaque détail soit parfait, et vos critiques permettront de l'affiner.
Hax ≠ scale dude ye tian après is bâtiment level
 
This is either 2-B or 2-A not Low 1-C without further context
I think they're 5D being because since they cannot enter the universe, they still have power over the universe and are rejected by the universe, and only those who have transcended can exist outside the universe, which means that they have transcended the universe and exist within the chaos.Transcend the great universe

Just by condensing the Heavenly Dao, which was the Heavenly Dao Eyes, he had already consumed the infinite origin energy of the universe, and the universe was unable to resist or suppress it, which showed that he had authority over the universe and was an existence above the universe, and they were transcender, and they had elevated their existence to a higher state of existence.
 
This is not a justification for a Complex Multiverse Level. Heck, he literally says in the scan that he became 100x more powerful.
Domain Ancestor Low Complex Multiverse maybe okay for them, They are beings with a higher status of existence than the 4 dimensions and the infinite 4 dimensions structure and are superior to beings like the Taoist Ancestors in every aspect, or they have surpassed even the boundless domain that encompasses everything, it was created by them, it did not come naturally, in the context it is also said that they can go out and explore true heaven, meaning that they can leave their domain to explore heaven and earth or other worlds, that is, higher dimensions.
 
This is not a justification for Low Complex Multiverse level. The second scan also isn't a feat regarding strength but just one where the character flees so it wouldn't be indexable as AP imo.
They are a higher being than the beings that exist within the universe, they see them as just ants or insignificant things and they are beings that are above the universe and where they can exist is the Dao realm, they cannot exist in the universe because they are rejected, that's what makes me think they should be 5 dimensional beings, because the bodies that appear outside the barriers of the universe are not even real bodies.

And even though they cannot enter the universe, they can force other worlds to enter the universe without regard to the universal laws
Some universes that had not yet evolved into a Dao realm, they would wait and if it was a quasi-Dao realm, they would be able to enter because it was no longer a universe but a Dao realm.
 
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collapse of space and time would kill them. Also, don't quote my message multiple times, just one will do.
That is just Void regions Laws not their weakness, That isn't structure it's a void like hax that can affect to something higher
 
the endless emptiness and darkness without rules, or the emptiness as it is an empty space with nothing, the sea source has another place higher than it, the Space-Time territory, where only the existences of the Eternal Realm and above can live.
It's just like this I hope you get it it's not a structure
 
"The path for them to become an Eternal Controller demands transcending countless rules and bindings-all laws of causality, every chain of cause and effect. They must surpass the Origin of Time and Space itself, shattering every limitation of temporality and spatiality. For by transcending this Origin-the River of Time from which all existence springs-they simultaneously overthrow its entire structure and framework. This enables them to ascend beyond all things, even beyond physical or strength. Their form ceases to be flesh; it becomes a body forged from energy they have absorbed and refined, a vessel crystallized from their conquest of the primordial."
And I think this is should be Low 1-A
They They have shown that they have surpassed the origin of time and space and the entire structure of time and space, because the river of time is the origin of all things, and all structures or things are extensions of it, even the source sea is merely an offshoot of the main river of time.
 
This is better, but still not enough for 5D imo.
Domain Ancestor Low Complex Multiverse maybe okay for them, They are beings with a higher status of existence than the 4 dimensions and the infinite 4 dimensions structure and are superior to beings like the Taoist Ancestors in every aspect, or they have surpassed even the boundless domain that encompasses everything, it was created by them, it did not come naturally, in the context it is also said that they can go out and explore true heaven, meaning that they can leave their domain to explore heaven and earth or other worlds, that is, higher dimensions.
The only interesting bit is "transcending limitless space and time" but seeing how it's related to destroying stuff, I'd say it's just a way to say he's very powerful and can destroy a lot of realms easily. Too vague for anything.
They are a higher being than the beings that exist within the universe, they see them as just ants or insignificant things and they are beings that are above the universe and where they can exist is the Dao realm, they cannot exist in the universe because they are rejected, that's what makes me think they should be 5 dimensional beings, because the bodies that appear outside the barriers of the universe are not even real bodies.
Since it's related to the first scan I'd say the same thing. It's better looking, but I'm very much unsure if it's enough for 5D.
Eternal Controller transcends the concept of time and space, spatial, temporal and existed outside the concept of dimensions If these don't hint to High 1-B then it's should hint Low 1-A tbh
Again, it's moreso related to the fact they are "beyond the influence of space and time" than literally transcending space and time.
That is just Void regions Laws not their weakness, That isn't structure it's a void like hax that can affect to something higher
No, the way it's phrased is pretty clear. "...They cannot change the past, otherwise it would cause space-time to collapse, which even they themselves cannot withstand, AND the entire Void Region would suppress them.
 
No, the way it's phrased is pretty clear. "...They cannot change the past, otherwise it would cause space-time to collapse, which even they themselves cannot withstand, AND the entire Void Region would suppress
You think it's a weakness? No it's isn't, This was the Origin Sea, even if it broke the existence like the Eternal Realm that existed outside it, when they came to attack here, the Origin Laws still protected and hindered the Eternal Realm, but they still had more power, this was the same as the Void Regions, if they thought of destroying or changing the past, they would be suppressed, just like what the Origin Sea did to the Eternal Realm, but the power of the Void Region was greater than the Origin Sea, so it affected the Eternal Controller, and it only affected those in the Void Region, not counting those outside the Void Region, or those in higher realm than where they lived.
 
Similarly, I just want to add but you NEED to do a cosmology blog before doing any profile, especially if the verse is within tier 1 range.
Okay, I get it after we end this thread discussion I'll make a cosmology for sure and that's maybe can rescaling these also I guess
 
You think it's a weakness? No it's isn't, This was the Origin Sea, even if it broke the existence like the Eternal Realm that existed outside it, when they came to attack here, the Origin Laws still protected and hindered the Eternal Realm, but they still had more power, this was the same as the Void Regions, if they thought of destroying or changing the past, they would be suppressed, just like what the Origin Sea did to the Eternal Realm, but the power of the Void Region was greater than the Origin Sea, so it affected the Eternal Controller, and it only affected those in the Void Region, not counting those outside the Void Region, or those in higher realm than where they lived.
I don't see why the couple of scan you sent change anything. It's fine if they can make avatar or whatever, but the whole point is that as an Eternal Controller, you can't survive the collapse of space-time. Although I agree that to avoid such a situation, the Void Region would suppress them before they try to do anything, which again, doesn't change that they are very much incapable of surviving the collapse of space and time.
Okay, I get it after we end this thread discussion I'll make a cosmology for sure and that's maybe can rescaling these also I guess
You can do whatever, but I don't think it will be accepted as it is. I feel like it's very confusing and some scans (that may be helpful) aren't available directly on the profile.

Truly, I suggest you do a concise blog regarding the cosmology, with all the scans that are relevant, so that anyone can understand directly.
 
I don't see why the couple of scan you sent change anything. It's fine if they can make avatar or whatever, but the whole point is that as an Eternal Controller, you can't survive the collapse of space-time. Although I agree that to avoid such a situation, the Void Region would suppress them before they try to do anything, which again, doesn't change that they are very much incapable of surviving the collapse of space and time.

You can do whatever, but I don't think it will be accepted as it is. I feel like it's very confusing and some scans (that may be helpful) aren't available directly on the profile.

Truly, I suggest you do a concise blog regarding the cosmology, with all the scans that are relevant, so that anyone can understand directly.
Okay, But I still tried to get accepted by those key get 2-A or 1-C If those scans are valid even they not get High 1-B or 1-B now they still have potential to get accepted Low 1-C or 1-C
 
It's seems High 1-B or 1-B This currently cannot be accepted due to substantial missing data-particularly regarding dimensional structuring, descriptive foundations, and framework details. Given these gaps, I'm considering adjusting its tier from High 1-B to 1-C or High 1-C. Based on available information, placement at 1-C to High 1-C remains plausible for acceptance.

• Eternal Controller​

• Their attacks transcend conventional temporal and spatial limitations, possibly indicating higher-dimensional influence, They can alter or define the fundamental laws of reality, which might extend to higher-dimensional constructs; They can move through time at will and are not restricted to a single timeline, hinting at possible multiversal or higher-dimensional capabilities.
• They can project attacks across different points in time, potentially simultaneously affecting multiple temporal instances, Their nature or actions defy 4-dimensional understanding, reinforcing a possible higher-dimensional existence.

Eternal Controller beings that perceive or interact with an entire timeline as a static object are often considered 5-dimensional, as they operate from a higher vantage point where time is just another manipulable axis.

Attacks that transcend specific temporal and spatial locations could indicate they originate from a higher dimension, affecting the 4D continuum without being confined to it. For example, a 5-dimensional being could project power into 4D space in ways that defy conventional constraints.

• Above the Dao constraints​

The Dao is the fundamental ultimate of existence -the elemental substrate and principle upholding reality's structure. The Eternal Dao represents the apex of being: a state where no higher existence or principle can reside.

Yet the Eternal Controller transcends even this framework. By forging their own Dao unbound by constraints or dependencies they achieve freedom from all structural limitations, causal bindings, and ontological rules. This grants them unrestricted capacity to reshape realities, enact transformations, and wield power beyond conventional reality."

• The Source Sea​

Within this sea, energy exists in immeasurable abundance: a single droplet contains infinite primordial power. Thus, I propose classifying the Source Sea's dimensional metric as an Energy Dimensional Axis (5D), "Beyond the Source Sea lies a higher-dimensional realm an existence tier beyond, known as the Eternal Realm. Entities here exist outside the Source Sea itself. They descend into the Sea with mere pairs of hands, harvesting incubation worms cultivated within it. Even that the Source Sea still is the branch of the Time River

Their very presence manifests overwhelming existential aura: beings near them cannot resist due to their superior dimensional authority. I am confident this represents a higher dimension (6D), as their influence Above or even existing outside the Source Sea's 5D energy-axis framework. "Consequently, Eternal Controller (transcending this framework) would operate at a higher dimensional (7D).

• Domain Ancestor​


"The Domain Ancestor are entities who architected all existence every law, every realm, even the boundless forbidden expanse itself. They are the source of all things, transcending even the Dao Ancestors (beings who surpassed space-time and the universe). Yet the Domain Ancestor exist beyond all such transcendent entities even destroy billions of ordinary domain.

Paradoxically, these creators can be slaughtered countless-annihilated by mere exhalations from the Domain Ancestor aura alone."

The list:​


1. Eternal Controller High 1-C
2. Domain Ancestor 2-A+ possibly Low 1-C

Within the sandbox, several keys remain undiscussed but I've chosen to develop only these two for now.

The others currently lack sufficient data and remain too ambiguous. I believe concentrating on these two key is the most practical path forward. Does this seem acceptable to you all?


Agree:

Disagree:

Neutral:
 
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I've finally completed my profile in full
I’ve worked on his profile before, and I can assure you that nearly all of his actual abilities are still missing. The novel has more than a thousand chapters, yet the first key lists only two abilities.

From what I’m seeing, the profile focuses mostly on late stage cultivation powers and even those are incomplete, highlighting just a few god tier abilities while ignoring everything else.

And for some reason his main ability appears only in the final key.
 
I’ve worked on his profile before, and I can assure you that nearly all of his actual abilities are still missing. The novel has more than a thousand chapters, yet the first key lists only two abilities.

From what I’m seeing, the profile focuses mostly on late stage cultivation powers and even those are incomplete, highlighting just a few god tier abilities while ignoring everything else.

And for some reason his main ability appears only in the final key.
I know that novel was thousand chapter but it's really hard to find something like attack potency or more ability that why I made only two key in the last because these two key It's already has been shown that clearly explained, Now I need to create the profile about the cosmology it's gonna be easier for scaling. (I also working on it alone that why is missing multiple feat)
 
It doesn't seem like the OP understands our standards very well. They should make a Cosmology Page instead of a Profile, and if they really skipped to the high-level Cultivation Stages, then the profile itself is just inaccurate. I have a hard time believing a thousand+ chapter novel starts at Universe level, and has zero feats for any lower level keys.
 
I think you need to make a cosmology, and then reorganize the role according to cosmology.
 
I concur that the OP needs to do a well-organized cosmology blog first, although I want to also say they clearly put a lot of effort into this and that isn't meant to discredit the work they've already done.
Eternal Controller transcends the concept of time and space, spatial, temporal and existed outside the concept of dimensions If these don't hint to High 1-B then it's should hint Low 1-A tbh
It doesn't especially when it's stated the collapse of space and time would kill them. Also, don't quote my message multiple times, just one will do.
Normally statements of existing beyond dimensionality would be Low 1-A- but if there's an anti-feat like that it obviously calls it into question.
 
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