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we are arguing whats currently on their profiles, not things that haven't been accepted yet
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Yhwach vs Kars
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Excellence616
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That would be done after tybw anime
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yes
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I know brotha
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Yeah. Reio yhwach still takes it
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Nah he doesn't
Hellscream
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Bro read blooch
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The German isn't doing much against Conceptual "understanding™"
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kars cant understand conceptual manip type 2
gg
gg
ReaperAndBlues
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Wait for Cour 3 for that
ReaperAndBlues
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So uh. Kars may have Soul hax resistance, but he isn't surviving Reiatsu Crush's AP factor at all. That 8-C dirability is still kicking his ass no matter what he does. Kars' only chance is BFR, but it's not likely he would be able to pull it off since Yhwach is doing this shit passively.
Oh, and also Yhwach has CM2.
Voting evil Jesus
Oh, and also Yhwach has CM2.
Voting evil Jesus
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wish he were kars lol
ReaperAndBlues
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It's a ****** mess to look through
ReaperAndBlues
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I forgot, Yhwach can also steal abilites even down to a conceptual level, so he's gonna look into the future and see his stand and go "You mean, my stand?"
assuming Kars doesn't just f**cking die
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That would be bad as it will only downgrade him
ReaperAndBlues
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I mean, what's gonna change? I guess he has less hax than Yhwach. Even then, Kyoka Suigetsu will still screw him over
Arcker123
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It's more fitting to the characters. Genius masterminds who constantly evolve to become a perfect being.
ReaperAndBlues
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Eh, actually that makes sense
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Aizen's evolution >
He always evolved waycbeyond what he has shown previously.
He has gone from mid level regeneration to mid godly (I don't see his soul and mind reconstruction being added as regeneration).
Reached reio candidates level from captain level during a battle.
Actually damaged someone who was way above him by his own admission ( dangai ichigo)
ReaperAndBlues
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Not to mention kept up with him after he blitzed him
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Don't forget his AP jump. It would look way more ridiculous after verse cosmology is reworked.
Hogyoku is a cheat code that is often overlooked.
ReaperAndBlues
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So what about this one? Is there even a wincon for Kars before he becomes dust in the wind?
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I would prefer tooru against bleach characters over any jojo characters. This guy can technically beat any bleach character below squad zero level / characters below uni range
ReaperAndBlues
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Kars has BFR and Universe Reset, from what I see from his profile. However, Yhwach's is literally just standing there since Reiatsu crush is gonna annihilate him with a passive 3-C force vs Kars' 8-C durability. Also anything Kars does gets powernulled and precog'd with The Almighty.
Kars might have wincons (it's more likely, just that his profile is a mess) but Yhwach has passives and other funny stuff that answers most of them.
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1. Kars has 6-B dura (won't matter much)
2. If kars dies he gets replaced by another kars, that is an infinite multiverse distance away
3. Kars has Conceptual 4-D understanding
4. Kars should be able to copy fate shenanigans, due to him stating that he has every power of every being on earth, that should include rolling stones
5. Benis
ReaperAndBlues
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Only says 8-C on the profile without Whitesnake. Also doesn't matter since well.... you know.
All of them still get fodderized. Put 5 trillion puppies against Frieza and they still wouldn't have a chance. Same case here.
No conceptual hax on the profile. Plus Yhwach has CM2 and can absorb concepts as well such as when he stole Ichibei's ink. Plus the only 4-D hax he knows is MIHRU, which needs setup.
Cool, Yhwach will do the same thing, or just power null it since he'll see that shit from 30 nautical miles away.
5. Benis
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He doesn't have the range
And his Understanding is 4-D, which Ywach has no answer to that
Only one of them has it to 4-D levels, and only one of them makes the ability on steroids after being understood
ReaperAndBlues
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The second the dare to step into the battlefield, they will die.
Just kill him lol. After all, he does it passively. And the type of immortalities Yhwach negs in particular covers all of Kars' (well except type 6 but that one's kinda doo doo anyway). Also, it's not on the profile aside from descriptions.
None of the worthwhile 4-D hax that can put down Yhwach without taking 50 million years like MIHRU can kill him before he nulls it. Everything else Yhwach just uses himself or powernulls it. This is also assuming Yhwach wouldn't just find a Kars without a stand out of the infinite futures he can look into to bully. If Kars copies the Almighty, Yhwach re-copies it, besides, that's assuming he'd be able to comprehend it before turning into dust.
Adaptation also isn't saving his ass because Yhwach fought Mahoraga on crack and was clapping him. Mind you, Aizen went from getting blitzed and beaten to a pulp to beating Ichigo's ass in one evolution, and Yhwach fought this Aizen, but stronger.
Anyways, Imma get some sleep.
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Nop. 4-D understanding
If he dies. Then another Kars take his place, with resistance to all migthy, repeat it until Ywach runs out of tricks
They don't have any HD abilities, and I don't think I have to remind you the absurd difference between 3-D and 4-D
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1. Kars has 6-B dura (won't matter much)
2. If kars dies he gets replaced by another kars, that is an infinite multiverse distance away
3. Kars has Conceptual 4-D understanding
4. Kars should be able to copy fate shenanigans, due to him stating that he has every power of every being on earth, that should include rolling stones
5. Benis
Since he is talking off profile let me answer with off profile @ReaperAndBlues
2. Doesn't matter. Yhwach has multiversal+ range physically as he can cover entire garganta which is bare minimum infinite 4D space. He has the range via almighty too. Yhwach can induce permanent effect, so no replacement happening. These are just three ways among other ways
3. Yhwach has high end 4D understanding including concept type 2.
4. Senjumaru's level fate manipulation not almighty not that it would help.
Yhwach has 4D acasuality type 4, CM, power etc resistance. So kars hax are useless. I'm gonna comment some wincons of yhwach below
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Lol no, he doesn't even have 4-D range in his profile
Point it out then
Those were rejected like 2 year ago dude, Ywach having smurf hax isn't a thing anymore
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Kars dies once
Kars in another universe uses D4C ultimate and another yhwach comes to "fight Yhwach"
Both die, no way Yhwach can survive a transmutation based on a "fact of the world"
Yhwach does not have 4D range and the donwplay of Kars here is inmense, also, this fight was made in the past and is inconclusive, Kars is absurd to kill and Yhwach lacks range to do it
Kars in another universe uses D4C ultimate and another yhwach comes to "fight Yhwach"
Both die, no way Yhwach can survive a transmutation based on a "fact of the world"
Yhwach does not have 4D range and the donwplay of Kars here is inmense, also, this fight was made in the past and is inconclusive, Kars is absurd to kill and Yhwach lacks range to do it
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see i knew it was incon 
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