Young Kratos vs Odin

[MrLuk2000]

Base God of War 3 Kratos vs God of War Ragnarok Odin

Speed Unequalized (will equalize if either or speed blitzes)

Kratos has all of his equipment up to the point with his final battle with Zeus

No Power of Hope

No prior knowledge of each other

Fight takes place in the Dragon Ball Super Tournament of Power Arena

Who wins?

Bonus Round: Odin has prior knowledge of the powers and abilities of what Kratos' weapons can do and has 1 hour of prep

 

[MrLuk2000]

Bump

 

[MrLuk2000]

Bump

 

[MrLuk2000]

Bump. Come on guys

 

[Re5yh]

Kratos

 

[KLOL506]

There is no "base" GoW3 Kratos. There is only GoW Kratos. There's also no point in equalizing speed, they both scale to each other (Ragnarok Kratos being equal to GoW3 Kratos in stats and whatnot).

And it's practically a haxstomp for Kratos. This Kratos is way more versatile, has a massive mobility advantage (His wings and Boots of Hermes) as well as a hax advantage, while Odin only has his Paralysis Inducement to show for it (Range advantage about to be nulled because of sitewide range upgrades stemming from loss of smurf for a majority of haxes, we just didn't apply it yet but that's neither here nor there), but that's about it. Kratos here has the Claws, the Titan Magics, Zeus' Fury, Poseidon's Rage, Ares' Domain Expansion bullshit, the clones, the bullshit power creep, all of it (Even without the Ares crap and the Zeus bolts or the Poseidon's Rage stuff the Claws themselves would pretty much be enough to finish off Odin), to say nothing about the Blade of Olympus. And Odin resists none of them (Cursed be the lack of layers for anyone below Tyr).

 

[Planck69]

I don't think we implemented the Tyr stuff yet, but otherwise, yeah you're correct.

Odin's poor soul magic resistance is what mainly does him in. That said, he can paralyse Kratos, but he doesn't open with that, which spells his doom.

I'd say it's very decisive rather than a stomp.

 

[KirbyFan03]

Personally I'd side Odin. In GoWR he was banking off of Kratos being a changed person but if he was against prime god killer Kratos he'd take it a lot more seriously. He should take maneuverability via Bifrost and use a bunch of his spells to keep a good distance from him

 

[KLOL506]

Personally I'd side Odin. In GoWR he was banking off of Kratos being a changed person but if he was against prime god killer Kratos he'd take it a lot more seriously. He should take maneuverability via Bifrost and use a bunch of his spells to keep a good distance from him.

Maneuverability is not gonna be a problem for Kratos. His Norse self has taken on and beaten numerous elite-level Bifrost users at their own game, and he has directly hard-countered and negged teleporters in his own Greek Realm. God Kratos is on another level with maneuverability considering he wields the Wings of Icarus, Claws of Hades, the Barbarian Hammer and has his Greek Godhood to show for it.

Young Kratos packs the same resistances as his old self does, those spells would not do much to him other than be a mere nuisance. The only real problematic spell would be his Paralysis Inducement but as Planck said, he doesn't open with that, which pretty much leaves him dead-on-arrival to any of Kratos's innumerable ways to kill him instantly (Kratos is also physically stronger than Odin). Blade of Olympus, Hades Claws, Ares Domain Expansion BS, Poseidon's Deconstructing Electricity, Zeus's Power Null bolts, Barbarian Hammer, take your pick. To say nothing of his Info Analysis which would also warn him of Odin's haxes in advance and cause him to take appropriate measures ahead of time.

This is also ignoring the fact that God Kratos has a significantly more broken AD and RE that would allow him to close the gap even on Odin's most potent hax in a relatively short period.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Claws of Hades or Olympus Blade GG.
Also Kratos can use Orkos stone to substitute jutsu escape paralysis or seals.

 

[KLOL506]

Also Kratos can use Orkos stone to substitute jutsu escape paralysis or seals.

Oh LOL completely forgot about the Oath Stone

 

[chosen]

Going Greek kratos

 

[Random-Helper323]

Kratos flexes and bellows in his booming voice and Odin shrivels up under his own inadequacy.

Kratos needed help from Atreus and Freya to beat Odin when they fought, so how does that affect things here?

 

[chosen]

At most woudl mean Odin stronger but kratos also didnt had there most of his relevant haxes Greek would have

 

[KLOL506]

Kratos flexes and Odin shrivels up under his own inadequacy.

Kratos needed help from Atreus and Freya to beat Odin when they fought, so how does that affect things here?

Atreus is essentially a non-factor here AP-wise without his Bear Form and Odin mainly had his hax to save face (Odin only overpowers Kratos that one time when he gets rammed in the shoulder with the axe, but every other time Kratos ragdolls him like with Gungnir and at the end of the fight even restrains him with a bear hug that Odin could only use Bifrost to get out of, if only for a short period). Ragnarok Kratos also doesn't have a slew of elemental magics that he did in the past back in Greece, nor did he have the sheer number of mobility options to fall back on (Like Greek Godhood, Wings of Icarus, Barbarian Hammer, Claws of Hades and the like), and God Kratos objectively has better AD and RE than his Norse self does.

 

[KLOL506]

NGL with the Oath Stone being Kratos's get-out-of-jail card for any restraining-based hax, what exactly does Odin have left save for his range? Which I might add, did nothing to help against Kratos, Freya and barely-counts Atreus, both of whom don't have that range? (Might not matter for long because smurf got replaced for range)

 

[Random-Helper323]

Even though they tell us Freya is equal to Kratos, she only "beats" him because he doesn't want to hurt her.

Still, could Kratos have beaten Odin alone?

 

[KLOL506]

Even though they tell us Freya is equal to Kratos, she only "beats" him because he doesn't want to hurt her.

TBF Kratos is just a better complete package overall (With way better battle experience than most of the verse not named Tyr and even he gets edged out) who is a complete resistance tank.

Still, could Kratos have beaten Odin alone?

Ragnarok Kratos? Probably not. But only because of his relative lack of versatility.

Greek God Kratos? Definitely.

 

[Planck69]

Even though they tell us Freya is equal to Kratos, she only "beats" him because he doesn't want to hurt her.

True. We plan on fixing the scaling surrounding this and others later on.

Still, could Kratos have beaten Odin alone?

Yeah. He's not stronger than his Ragnarok self in terms of raw statistics but he has far more means available to him.

 

[Eseseso]

Wait until Young Kratos hears about what Odin did to all the human children...