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Zegion vs Yukari Yakumo
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what can zegion do against concept manipulation or 2D BFR?
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Depends if yukari starts with those, zegion always starts with illusion world turning reality into illusions and vice versa, so the whole time you think your fighting him it's just an illusion and now zegion has copied your ability.
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Depends on two thing:
-The scale of Zegion's resistance to EE
-The scale of Zegion's own EE and how likely he is to use it.
If he doesn't resist 4-D EE, Yukari can easily take him down, even through his Low-Godly regen.
-The scale of Zegion's resistance to EE
-The scale of Zegion's own EE and how likely he is to use it.
If he doesn't resist 4-D EE, Yukari can easily take him down, even through his Low-Godly regen.
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He has basic resistance to EE, ultimate skill users can resist things like diablo's end of the world which has an effect that denies and destroys everything including fate manipulation, it pretty much erases stuff.
He also probably has resistance to void manipulation as well since the hierarchy of skills basically go: skill<unique skill<ultimate gift<pseudo ultimate skill=ultimate skill. Ultimate skill users resist everything that's not an ultimate skill or pseudo ultimate skill, and gadra has an ability which summons a void that erases stuff from existence and would eventually destroy the world, that won't work on an ultimate skill user.
Zegion's EE summons a rainbow colored storm from another dimension that erases his targets entire existence.
Depends if she can resist his illusions, as i said above he always starts with it, the entire time your fighting him, will just be an illusion due to him turning reality into illusions, and illusions into reality and this works on ppl who resist reality warping too. Zegion can also analyze and copy his opponents abilities just by seeing them, his fighting style basically goes like this:
>Traps you in a reality warping illusion from the beginning of the fight
>Copies your abilities
>Uses them against you
He also probably has resistance to void manipulation as well since the hierarchy of skills basically go: skill<unique skill<ultimate gift<pseudo ultimate skill=ultimate skill. Ultimate skill users resist everything that's not an ultimate skill or pseudo ultimate skill, and gadra has an ability which summons a void that erases stuff from existence and would eventually destroy the world, that won't work on an ultimate skill user.
Zegion's EE summons a rainbow colored storm from another dimension that erases his targets entire existence.
Depends if she can resist his illusions, as i said above he always starts with it, the entire time your fighting him, will just be an illusion due to him turning reality into illusions, and illusions into reality and this works on ppl who resist reality warping too. Zegion can also analyze and copy his opponents abilities just by seeing them, his fighting style basically goes like this:
>Traps you in a reality warping illusion from the beginning of the fight
>Copies your abilities
>Uses them against you
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With her boundary perception, yeah she definitely could, more over she would flip it back by True/False and Reality/Fantasy and turn it over.
Also, copying her Boundary Manipulation...good luck. It would be a blessing if she haven't purposefully mess with her own ability, or mess with his comprehension to make him self-destruct.
And not to mention thing Saikou said above...Yukari win
Also, copying her Boundary Manipulation...good luck. It would be a blessing if she haven't purposefully mess with her own ability, or mess with his comprehension to make him self-destruct.
And not to mention thing Saikou said above...Yukari win
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Via Celestial Pegasus statement he doesn't resist to the Conceptual Erasure of Yukari
But yeah, she can easily Counter the Illusion to reality thing in erasing the boundary between them
Yukari can take this Mid diff
But yeah, she can easily Counter the Illusion to reality thing in erasing the boundary between them
Yukari can take this Mid diff
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Lolboundary FRA
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She could see deep into the boundaries that "separate" and "define" everything in the world, from object, to thought, to concept, seeing both the truth of the world and the truth of the beholder. Of course it's that strong.
From what we know, she simply erase it with a thought, and remove you altogether.
From what we know, she simply erase it with a thought, and remove you altogether.
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She has no Resistance to Info anlys? if no then Zegion win mid-high diff he can one shot, via Life and death manip, and how she know if she in Zegion Illusion world that even can affect someone who resist illusion and reality warp? even his illusion can affect Time
Zegion had activated『Illusion World』of his『Illusion Lord Mephisto』.
There, everything was bent to Zegion's will, even the flow of time.
With this ability, it was not hard for Zegion to analyze and counter Zero's annihilation wave.
he active it via thought as well
Zegion had activated『Illusion World』of his『Illusion Lord Mephisto』.
There, everything was bent to Zegion's will, even the flow of time.
With this ability, it was not hard for Zegion to analyze and counter Zero's annihilation wave.
he active it via thought as well
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ÒÇîThe farce taking place below should be over soon. I suppose I should also finish this up soon.ÒÇì
Ignoring Zero's predictions, Zegion acted on his emotions.
In other words, he struck Zero with a fist that contained his wrath.
ÒÇîI said, your attacks won't wo―ÒÇì
Zero's sentence was cut off.
Zegion's Imagination became reality, and the Absolute Shield, Zero, was broken.
he imagined yakumo death and it becomes reality
Ignoring Zero's predictions, Zegion acted on his emotions.
In other words, he struck Zero with a fist that contained his wrath.
ÒÇîI said, your attacks won't wo―ÒÇì
Zero's sentence was cut off.
Zegion's Imagination became reality, and the Absolute Shield, Zero, was broken.
he imagined yakumo death and it becomes reality
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If she could manipulate boundary, why couldn't see create a barrier to prevent people from reading on her? It's part of the the reason why she's so hard to read.
And boundary perception, again, could clearly see that the boundary between Reality and Illusion is getting blur. She could immediately see that she is in an illusion, especially considering that she make a world like that with her power.
And once she see it, she would immediately manipulate it back to her favour, and would just EE him. He wouldn't be able to imagine that she's death, because his world now isn't his own.
And boundary perception, again, could clearly see that the boundary between Reality and Illusion is getting blur. She could immediately see that she is in an illusion, especially considering that she make a world like that with her power.
And once she see it, she would immediately manipulate it back to her favour, and would just EE him. He wouldn't be able to imagine that she's death, because his world now isn't his own.
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Well, Yukari FRA.
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How fast
basically Zegion Illusion is Reality, its Zegion World is not an actual Illusion everything he imagined become reality just like Turn Beam into water or strong become weak, or life to death, even can Turn People into animal just like he Turns Ramiris into a butterfly
- Thought Acceleration: An ability that accelerate the user's thought processing capability by a million times. Allowing the user to react to something they normally wouldn't be able to perceive.
And how she know Zegion try to analys his skill? since zegion can analys by looking at his enemy, not to mention he can copy your skill as well
Again Zegion can One shot before she can use her skill, his mind accelerated milion to ten milion times,
"Don't tell me that the conversation was with an illusion since the beginning?"
basically Zegion Illusion is Reality, its Zegion World is not an actual Illusion everything he imagined become reality just like Turn Beam into water or strong become weak, or life to death, even can Turn People into animal just like he Turns Ramiris into a butterfly
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Weaknesses: Yukari is quite lazy and rarely fights seriously, and her boundary manipulation can sometimes be overpowered or considered not enough to reach certain areas instantly, such as Heaven or the Lunarian Capital. She is vulnerable to spiritual damage.
Considering she don't know anything about Zegion it become her defeat
Considering she don't know anything about Zegion it become her defeat
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Yukari FRA (and via my reasons) she can survive enough time to Conceptual Erase him instantaneously.
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- Illusion World: Zegion's ability to alter his surrounding based on his imagination. The mere activation of this ability can even distort flow of time. Using this ability, Zegion can turn reality into phantasm and phantasm into reality.
Please Read his Illusion is Reality Warping, And Yukari have no resistance to reality warping plus zegion reality warping can affect someone who resist that, how she kill zegion if she died first?
her weakness says that she rarely fight serious plus she know nothing about zegion
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Yukari is Lazy yes but her weakness is one of her qualities,
She just open a portal to another world (Which is Largely outside Zegion's range and use her Multiversal Range to Kill Him, for her it's the most useful way to win easily
She just open a portal to another world (Which is Largely outside Zegion's range and use her Multiversal Range to Kill Him, for her it's the most useful way to win easily
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@GLHF22 She's lazy only because in Gensokyo, no fight there is a serious duel to the death. She is smart enough to be serious otherwise.
She's the one who possessed a brainpower that could simultaneously process thousands of variable in an instant, not to mention that she react fast enough for MFTL+ in the first place.( Also, she could just build more computer with Shikigami and boundary at her back, if her ridiculous brain power isn't enough)
Also again, she's an owner of a world that's similar to him: A world of fantasy and illusion, in a higher rank than him in fact. She would instantly recognized it on top of her omniscient-like boundary perception. And with her boundary perception, she would also instantly know that he at least have that.
And again, her boundary manipulation automatically mean she could resist Reality Warping, especially in a kind of field she know way to well. She would instantly flip it back, denied him control, and EE his soul apart. And even if she death, as long as her existence is there, she could just flip it back while EE him anyway.
And like Causality said, dodge to another world FTW.
She's the one who possessed a brainpower that could simultaneously process thousands of variable in an instant, not to mention that she react fast enough for MFTL+ in the first place.( Also, she could just build more computer with Shikigami and boundary at her back, if her ridiculous brain power isn't enough)
Also again, she's an owner of a world that's similar to him: A world of fantasy and illusion, in a higher rank than him in fact. She would instantly recognized it on top of her omniscient-like boundary perception. And with her boundary perception, she would also instantly know that he at least have that.
And again, her boundary manipulation automatically mean she could resist Reality Warping, especially in a kind of field she know way to well. She would instantly flip it back, denied him control, and EE his soul apart. And even if she death, as long as her existence is there, she could just flip it back while EE him anyway.
And like Causality said, dodge to another world FTW.
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She do this by not dying in the first place buddy lol
And how she die in the first place?
And how she die in the first place?
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Firstly he need to use his Illusion world to make this, during this time, yukari can just Snipe him from another UniverseAndykhang said:
Or she trap him into 2D
Or simply Erase.
If we consider the scenario where he make his illusion world before yukari can do shit, he think, she die, she come back and Erase GG
Yukari can win in way more scenario than Zegion
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Kill someone which resist to an ability doesn't mean she can't come back due to her Godly Regen.GLHF22 said:
If he doesn't create world of a thing like that, it's worst to him tho
It's cool if he can do this before he get Erased or Boundary GG
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Actually, His low godly is reliant of His soul, kill being like that isn't even enough to perma kill Yakumo's Godly regenGLHF22 said:
My vote go for her.
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Non-Physical Interaction (Can harm spiritual life forms which exists as souls, fire, water vapor, aura, energy etc)
ÒÇî――But, I'll answer it for the pitiful you.
I made it into a phantasm, subtle and profound. Since the very beginning, you have been under the control of my ability.
Know that mind attacks don't have any effects on me, who has been given the title of "Mist Lord", the ruler of the illusion world!ÒÇì
From the beginning, this place was Zegion's control space.
ÒÇîImpossible, you understood the underlying principle in an instant!?
Moreover, for you to be able to negate the Zero Fill Wave that turns every wavelength, even the pulse of life to zero―ÒÇì
ÒÇîHow laughable. The thing that negates a wave is another wave. So I need not do more than let it envelop me.
Instead of opposing the wave, I just have to synchronize with it. That is the truth of the universe.
For someone like me, who can turn phantasms into reality, it's a trifling matter to see your waves.
The likes of you are even lower than garbage compared to Rimuru-sama and Veldora-sama.ÒÇì
ÒÇî――But, I'll answer it for the pitiful you.
I made it into a phantasm, subtle and profound. Since the very beginning, you have been under the control of my ability.
Know that mind attacks don't have any effects on me, who has been given the title of "Mist Lord", the ruler of the illusion world!ÒÇì
From the beginning, this place was Zegion's control space.
ÒÇîImpossible, you understood the underlying principle in an instant!?
Moreover, for you to be able to negate the Zero Fill Wave that turns every wavelength, even the pulse of life to zero―ÒÇì
ÒÇîHow laughable. The thing that negates a wave is another wave. So I need not do more than let it envelop me.
Instead of opposing the wave, I just have to synchronize with it. That is the truth of the universe.
For someone like me, who can turn phantasms into reality, it's a trifling matter to see your waves.
The likes of you are even lower than garbage compared to Rimuru-sama and Veldora-sama.ÒÇì
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Isnt it established that Boundary manip is 4D? Feats of Zegion copyinf 4D abilitys?
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@FW Boundary Mnipulation is Conceptual Manipulation (and 4D IIRC) Zegion has no feat to copy this kind of abilities sadly
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Gap hag FRA
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Time is 4D right, Zegion Illusion World can Affect Time
- Space-Time Control : An ability that allows the user to manipulate space-time to a degree, allowing him to accomplish feats such as instantaneous teleportation and stopping time for roughly 30 minutes.
- All of Creation: An ability that allows Zegion to be able to comprehend any non-concealed phenomenon.
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If he only affect Time, it's really not enough since the 4D shit in touhou are Beyond Time and Space (an Higher 4D Scale) and Add the Conceptual Nature of Yukari's Boundary and you get Zegion who can't copy this.
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