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Zenless Zone Zero Discussion Thread

Same thing happened to me on playing the Main Story first until the Anby and Trigger appearance, after I saw them I went back to finish her story first before continuing further.

Honestly while they do provide a reason with the human organ trafficking being tied to the antagonist in main story, Anby appearing as Soldier 0 and alongside Trigger was really forced to me and obviously just there to have this version of Anby be usable a bit in the main story.

Like after the meeting in Blazewood, which according to her she only wore her old uniform and weapon to help the person their meeting recognize her, she’s still wearing it in the final part of the story despite her not knowing it would be tied to her story.
yeah her appearance in the story was basically just a shoe-in to have her be playable since her S-rank just came out lmao. not super upset about it though, at the very least i actually really enjoyed the interactions she had with hugo and lycaon and i thought her just being tired of their BS was really funny
 
Fought Geppetto and he’s definitely more interesting than Nineveh to me both design and fight wise, the fact he and Nineveh both cannot be killed makes me wonder where their story will go eventually.

Also met that Tiger Thiren, Ju Fufu, and she mentions looking for her master who she stated could beat Geppetto which, assuming the possibility she’s not overestimating her master, could mean their hinting at the next Void Hunter character.
 
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Fought Geppetto and he’s definitely more interesting than Nineveh to me both design and fight wise, the fact he and Nineveh both cannot be killed makes me wonder where their story will go eventually.

Also met that Tiger Thiren, Ju Fufu, and she mentions looking for her master who she stated could beat Geppetto which, assuming the possibility she’s not overestimating her master, could mean their hinting at the next Void Hunter character.
going into some leak territory so in case you don't wanna see that just a quick spoiler warning

ju fufu was already leaked to be an upcoming playable character, as is her master. their faction also seemed to be teased with ju fufu's appearance, with her stating that she's a disciple of "yunkui summit". based off that it seems like their faction is gonna be martial arts based. i didn't think about the possibility of her master being a void hunter but that could honestly be pretty cool. not sure if she'd have a weapon or not, but honestly it'd be really cool to see another character fighting with straight hands like lighter does lol
 
Yeah ended up seeing those leaks, though ima start avoiding any more beyond them and this update as I did end up seeing story scenes that would’ve hit harder if I hadn’t.

Regarding Ju Fufu and her Master, a martial arts faction would be really cool. I think I heard their gonna be 2.0 characters, if so I feel that lessens the possibility of her Master being a current Void Hunter as I’d feel they’d build up the next Miyabi status character through multiple patches.
That said it’s possible her Master could be a retired Void Hunter, Ju Fufu mentions she’s a reclusive and mysterious type of master so maybe it’s that type of story of where a powerful hero retired after a serious event, like the fall of the old capital, to focus on training the next generation.
 
a bit busy at the moment, but i compiled feats for sanby's character demo, character teaser, and her agent story. the season 1 epilogue is a lot longer so it'll take me a bit to go through it and compile feats, but i figured i'd at least share what i have currently for the other stuff



0:46 - Handles an entire horde of ethereals by herself
0:50 - Shows herself to be extremely mobile by jumping and doing a flip in the air
0:59 - Kicks an ethereal with enough force to send it flying
1:17 - Gets slammed through a concrete floor by a giant ethereal and is unfazed by it
1:55 - Blitzes and defeats a horde of ethereals by herself, including a Dullahan. The force of her slashes was also enough to launch both several ethereals and chunks of rock into the air


1:47 - Not really much in the way of feats in this video since it's more lore focused, but Anby slits her own throat, and despite losing consciousness and being dumped and assumed for dead, she manages to live long enough for Nicole to find her


3:10 - Trigger seemed capable of noticing ether fluctuations in the nearby area
4:40 - Trigger knocks a soldier out with a single strike by slamming her gun against his head
14:40 - Trigger recognizes the similarities between Anby and Soldier 11, both in the way they use ether and in the way they fight, despite not being able to see
14:50 - Anby confirms that she is in fact, not a standard human, but rather a "replica" made from the blueprint of a person
26:27 - Anby sneaks into the lab Twiggy is in undetected
26:38 - Trigger mentions being able to "sense the cold air" of the lab from outside. She also mentions the place having a strange scent.
27:02 - Soldier 11 seems, at the very least, conscious despite being injected with multiple different medications and having "samples" taken from her
28:37 - Twiggy mentions that anesthesia doesn't work on her or any of the other replicas
30:49 - Twiggy commends her own memory, using both her own memories of assisting with the replica cloning process as well as the rogue doctor's research data to revive the technology of Silver Company
31:40 - Girl A notices Anby without her realizing and proceeds to signal Twiggy about her presence
34:10 - Twiggy mentions Anby's "prime," which suggests that she could have possibly been stronger in Silver Squad than she is currently
42:35 - Despite all of the things Soldier 11 went through, Wise comments that her "body temperature, heart rate, and pulse are all stable," which he mentions as being "abnormal" given her current state
43:48 - Anby mentions that when Silver Company replicas are severely wounded, their memories are the first thing to fail, resulting in jumbled and lost memories for some time
44:04 - Following Trigger's question, Anby also adds that despite the memory loss that comes with severe injury, a replica's combat skills remain intact and are pretty much ingrained into their very being
54:29 - Anby mentions that "being able to use all their energy to prioritize stabilizing vital signs" and "retaining maximum combat effectiveness" is the most basic requirement of a qualified Silver Company soldier
1:07:01 - Soldier 11 confirms the idea of replicas retaining their combat skills even through memory loss when she mentions subduing a thief attempting a burglary while watching a movie
1:11:22 - Anby confirms that Soldier 11's original name is in fact "Harin"
1:17:25 - Anby mentions that Silver Squad soldiers who are critically injured have their recent memories wiped within 24 hours (also unrelated but damn is this scene depressing)
1:29:10 - Soldier 11 runs an unknown distance from Random Play all the way to the Lab, joining Anby as the two prepare themselves to fight the now corrupted Twiggy and Girl A
1:31:48 - Anby and Soldier 11 manage to beat the two ethereals together
1:41:43 - Soldier 11 makes a full recovery in just a few days following her critical injury
 


alrighty, a bit late in posting this, but here are all the feats i compiled for chapter 6/the season 1 epilogue for ZZZ. honestly, a lot less feats than i remembered, but this chapter, or at least this part of it, was a lot more lore/story focused so it makes sense. there were at least a couple notable things worth pointing out though

9:22/15:15 - Hugo steals a man's wallet without him realizing
17:16 - Hugo fills everyone's pockets in the area with dennies
22:53 - The Mayor mentions that Phaethon's eye implants are linked to their brain, and that their functionality are linked to their body's limits. He then adds on that the HDD system takes up a part of their body's capacity, which results in their ether aptitude becoming suppressed
23:24 - Thanks to the upgrades made to the HDD system, Phaethon can now move around and operate in hollows fine, as their ether aptitude was restored to ordinary levels
24:34 - The Mayor mentions that Wise and Belle's ocular implants contain "even greater power" than what we've seen so far, with the potential to possibly affect all of New Eridu
1:10:56 - Hugo manages to sneak into the auction house, shutting the lights off and stealing the Robe of Heroes before anyone notices. He then manages to get away and escape despite a group of armed guards chasing after him
1:16:07 - Phaethon comments that there are a load of ethereals blocking the path to Hugo in the hollow, commenting that they don't seem to faze him. Lycaon supports this comment by admitting that he's a formidable fighter
1:22:18 - Lycaon hears Hugo approaching him from behind and manages to react to him tossing his briefcase at him, moving Phaethon out of the way before kicking it back at him
1:22:30 - Hugo manages to parry a blitz attempt from Lycaon, before Lycaon gets into his blind spot and sends him flying into a wall with a single kick. Before Hugo can move, Lycaon pins him against the wall
1:22:52 - Lycaon moves out of the way of Hugo's scythe as it extends out of his briefcase
1:23:00 - Lycaon moves out of the way of Hugo's attack. The two clash for a bit, showing relativity to one another before Phaethon jumps in the way to stop them
1:25:51 - Hugo deals with a group of hollow raiders that show up out of nowhere with ease
1:27:22/1:29:10 - Lycaon beats Hugo in their second fight, before he jumps over a railing and completely disappears
1:39:04 - The Mayor talks about the Sacrifice Core, suggesting that it has the power to cause mass destruction against New Eridu were it to be used as a weapon
1:48:32/1:51:30 - In Bringer's tape recordings, he mentions that he's critically injured and near death. However, upon seeing "a miracle," Zhu Yuan comments that he was seen exiting the hollow completely healthy, even carrying injured people out in the process. Harumasa suggests the possibility of a supposed "miracle" completely healing him from near death
2:02:05/2:15:52 - We get the first look at Vivian's foresight ability. As she explains, she has the ability to see visions of the future. However, she clarifies that these visions are always negative, be it plagues, disasters, death, or accidents in general.
2:13:31 - Trigger seems capable of scanning someone's vital signs just by looking at them(?)
2:22:31 - Vivian provides a bit more clarity on her foresight. She can't control the future she sees, and the premonitions she gets come to her suddenly "like flooding images." She also clarifies that (at least for the time being), her premonitions are always fated to happen, and nothing she does can change or prevent them
2:26:13 - Hugo steps in to kill an Ethereal as Phaethon and Vivian are examining Bringer's notebook
2:39:28 - Hugo claims he'd be able to slip away and disappear from the room Hartman is in if he wanted to
2:57:44 - Lycaon claims that if he wanted to stalk Hugo, "he'd never know"
3:42:02/3:43:25 - Hugo fights against Lycaon and Anby, and although he doesn't win, he manages to hold them off for a decent amount of time, also seeming pretty unscathed by their fight
3:45:04 - Lycaon rushes forward and puts Hugo in a chokehold before he can stab Phaethon. He then proceeds to pierce Hugo straight through his heart before dropping him off the railing
 
alright, here's my first updated profile for grace. did as instructed and added more scans to the P&A section, as well as adjusting a few things in her profile to make it a bit more accurate. hoping this looks good so i can move on and update the rest of them
 
alright, here's my first updated profile for grace. did as instructed and added more scans to the P&A section, as well as adjusting a few things in her profile to make it a bit more accurate. hoping this looks good so i can move on and update the rest of them
Does ZZZ still not have a character's profile?
 
Does ZZZ still not have a character's profile?
we did, but most of the profiles posted were taken down due to a lack of scans/calcs on them. so i wanted to redo all the ones i made and hopefully wait for more calcs to get approved before i reupload them
 
we did, but most of the profiles posted were taken down due to a lack of scans/calcs on them. so i wanted to redo all the ones i made and hopefully wait for more calcs to get approved before i reupload them
while we wait that you can make a Silver Soldier amby key
 
So Yi Xuan indeed is a Void Hunter level Investigator, though I’ve been seeing people say she ain’t stated to be one officially in Chinese and other translations.
Could be I was right in that she used to be a Void Hunter but relinquished the title at some point.
 
So Yi Xuan indeed is a Void Hunter level Investigator, though I’ve been seeing people say she ain’t stated to be one officially in Chinese and other translations.
Could be I was right in that she used to be a Void Hunter but relinquished the title at some point.

from my understanding the english translation was the only weird translation. both the chinese and japanese versions of the 1.7 stream referred to her as someone "comparable in skill/power to that of a void hunter," which leads me to believe that she's probably VH level in terms of strength but just might not have the official recognition of being one as a result of not doing anything noteworthy to grant her the title like all the other VHs. either way, it'll definitely be interesting to see what she's capable of and how she compares to miyabi strength wise

also on an unrelated note really apologies for how inactive i've been in this thread, been preoccupied with school, work, and some other projects. i'll try to fix and reup all the profiles i made when i have more free time
 
from my understanding the english translation was the only weird translation. both the chinese and japanese versions of the 1.7 stream referred to her as someone "comparable in skill/power to that of a void hunter," which leads me to believe that she's probably VH level in terms of strength but just might not have the official recognition of being one as a result of not doing anything noteworthy to grant her the title like all the other VHs. either way, it'll definitely be interesting to see what she's capable of and how she compares to miyabi strength wise

also on an unrelated note really apologies for how inactive i've been in this thread, been preoccupied with school, work, and some other projects. i'll try to fix and reup all the profiles i made when i have more free time
Based on the fact she’s responding to a request from the Mayor, the person who gives the title, makes me think her capabilities are recognized but she either turned down the title or relinquished it.
Either way, I’m curious to see if she’ll take or retake the title of VH in Season 2 and or if we’ll have another VH appear later in the season.

No problem with the inactivity, stuff in life take priority and it’s not like too much is going on atm so it’s no rush for those fixes on pages. I put up Nicole and Nekomata if I forgot to mention, so we got some more pages up for the verse beside DEB and Billy.
I have yet to play the Trigger Agent Story but the character demo gave us nice action with Trigger as she easily deflected and dodged bullets.
 
I think I'm finished with Jane Doe, how does she look? The Lifting Strength is still subject to change until it gets approved so I might just give her Class 100 in the meantime or some other calc
 
I think I'm finished with Jane Doe, how does she look? The Lifting Strength is still subject to change until it gets approved so I might just give her Class 100 in the meantime or some other calc
looks pretty good to me, i like the formatting. might use it for future reference whenever i eventually get around to redoing all the profiles i made
 
I think I'm finished with Jane Doe, how does she look? The Lifting Strength is still subject to change until it gets approved so I might just give her Class 100 in the meantime or some other calc
IMO just leave her at At least 9-B and Unknown LS until she’s actually has something that put’s her in 9-A from her Faction and the Class M Rampant Brute calc is approved.
 
Finally played through Trigger’s story

The story itself and contents within the story was pretty emotional, seeing that Bangboo promising to take of its late masters dog, the family of Trigger’s squad, the recording and clear image of her squad at the end of the story.
Also I feel really bad for that female former soldier, her friend was killed, she was kidnapped twice, tortured and beaten half to death by Zoe as she’s powerless to get revenge and is left scarred by this event, with the only current thing she’s possibly currently looking forward to potentially going to hell and getting revenge on Zoe.

Zoe was a good and really formidable antagonist, probably my most hated one currently in ZZZ.
The antagonist in Koleda and Harumasa’s Agent stories were worse people to me IIRC but they were generic scumbags whereas I can see the pain that caused Zoe to lose it yet I never lost that immense desire to see her lose and pay/die for her crimes, honestly sorta sucks that she died content and feeling relieved while her victims either died or corrupted after being sadistically tortured as their families have to deal with their lose while those that have survived are now scarred from this event.

Overall I did enjoy this story, no idea where’d I’d put it as it’s been awhile since the last few Agent stories I’ve played.

Combat feat wise, Trigger beat a Thracian while under fire from Zoe.
First weakened Harumasa in his Agent story, second Qingyi in that fishing quest line and now Trigger, who’s the next agent to beat Thracian’s ass by themselves?
 
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It's speculated and implied that Zoe was holding back and setting conditions for Trigger to defeat her so it's not necessarily a huge boost but still impressive.
 
It's speculated and implied that Zoe was holding back and setting conditions for Trigger to defeat her so it's not necessarily a huge boost but still impressive.
I’d still think she was shooting to kill as Trigger was fighting Thracian, I thought her holding back would be not retreating when the banner blocked her vision or not moving to a more advantageous spot during during the fight with the Thracian.

In a way, I could see Zoe using the Thracian, a highly formidable melee fighter, and not moving to a better spot as a way to face Trigger, who’s both a great sniper and close range combatant, in a head on fight.
 
reworked my grace profile again to be more in line with both the jane profile and the CH profiles that are already up on the site, hopefully this looks all good so i can start reuploading them all
 
reworked my grace profile again to be more in line with both the jane profile and the CH profiles that are already up on the site, hopefully this looks all good so i can start reuploading them all
Looking good, though I’d hold off on reuploading Belobog team until we got the Unknown Corruption Complex page up.

Are you doing the Anby rework? Forgot if you said you’ll handle her page.
With her up with we could fully link her, Nekomata and Billy for when Victoria Housekeeping pages as well as link her for Soldier 11 and Trigger pages, who I think both should be comparable to her and each other.
 
Looking good, though I’d hold off on reuploading Belobog team until we got the Unknown Corruption Complex page up.

Did you call doing the Anby rework? With her up with we could fully link her, Nekomata and Billy for when Victoria Housekeeping pages as well as link her for Soldier 11 and Trigger pages, who both should be comparable to her and each other.
yeah, i was gonna redo anby, probably gonna do that now actually just so we can officially have the pages up for every CH member
 
yeah, i was gonna redo anby, probably gonna do that now actually just so we can officially have the pages up for every CH member
K, cool. As I mentioned, with her up I think we will have much more pages to safely make.

Btw are you going to make a separate key for S0 or just put higher in AP and Attack Speed as S0? Her normal speed, durability and LS I don’t think would change, just that she possesses an offensive and ruthless fighting style
 
K, cool. As I mentioned, with her up I think we will have much more pages to safely make.

Btw are you going to make a separate key for S0 or just put higher in AP and Attack Speed as S0? Her normal speed, durability and LS I don’t think would change, just that she possesses an offensive and ruthless fighting style
uhhhh i'd probably just make them one in the same? it's not really like she gains a boost in stats like you said, her fighting style changes and she uses different weapons but that's sort of it, don't really feel like it's super necessary to make whole separate keys
 
uhhhh i'd probably just make them one in the same? it's not really like she gains a boost in stats like you said, her fighting style changes and she uses different weapons but that's sort of it, don't really feel like it's super necessary to make whole separate keys
Yeah, it’d just be putting (same as before) in the mentioned stats. S0 will primarily be a tab for the Power and Abilities and Attacks/Techniques sections.
 
Finished Epilogue (B)

I thought it was really good and accomplished finishing the current sacrifice crisis, Vivian story with the exaltist and the ravenlock plot.

Hugo is currently to me the best character thus far, the hallucination section and battle with his inner self was the best part of the epilogue and probably one of my favorite section in the main story of season 1.

Vivian is super cute and I actually got a tiny bit teary-eyed seeing her immense love toward Wise/Belle being from them sending a positive message that saved her from committing suicide.
Her story with the exaltist was also really tragic, seeing her have people she considered family among them and how both ended up dying. It was depressing watching Camille take the fall and die to protect Dina and give her a chance at a future, just for Dina to reject it and make her sacrifice pointless.

Yi Xuan is cool and seems fun from that brief time we hang out with her, sorta wished we got to see a bit more of her kicking ass but that’ll be for season 2.
With Wise/Belle learning they have the power to manipulate etheric energy and can cure severe corruption, we finally learn what they’ll be learning in the next main story. I hope this’ll just lead to more support abilities rather than them gaining combat power, I like them being physically unimpressive and having to rely on agents for direct combat.
 
Finished Epilogue (B)

I thought it was really good and accomplished finishing the current sacrifice crisis, Vivian story with the exaltist and the ravenlock plot.

Hugo is currently to me the best character thus far, the hallucination section and battle with his inner self was the best part of the epilogue and probably one of my favorite section in the main story of season 1.

Vivian is super cute and I actually got a tiny bit teary-eyed seeing her immense love toward Wise/Belle being from them sending a positive message that saved her from committing suicide.
Her story with the exaltist was also really tragic, seeing her have people she considered family among them and how both ended up dying. It was depressing watching Camille take the fall and die to protect Dina and give her a chance at a future, just for Dina to reject it and make her sacrifice pointless.

Yi Xuan is cool and seems fun from that brief time we hang out with her, sorta wished we got to see a bit more of her kicking ass but that’ll be for season 2.
With Wise/Belle learning they have the power to manipulate etheric energy and can cure severe corruption, we finally learn what they’ll be learning in the next main story. I hope this’ll just lead to more support abilities rather than them gaining combat power, I like them being physically unimpressive and having to rely on agents for direct combat.
yeah, although opinions on the epilogue currently seem pretty decisive, all in all, i liked it.

i liked vivian's background and her connection with both camille and dina. with dina specifically, a lot of people criticized her irrationallity and, frankly, stupidity, but i think that was the point. she was essentially brainwashed by the exaltists, which are pretty much just a cult, to the point where she basically lost all rationality and logic. i think the story handled that aspect of her pretty well

i also really liked hugo's segment and him confronting his inner demon. i was a bit worried about how they'd resolve the strained relationship between him and lycaon, but i like how they handled it. they both have opposing views and beliefs, but they ultimately do have a shared mutual respect for one another. i think it was a good way to keep that distance between them while also making them be on a bit better terms going into season two.

although i'm still not personally huuuge on yixuan's design, i do think her powers look really cool, and i also like her personality. she's surprisingly funny, which is something i definitely didn't expect. the "10,000 dennies for a fortune reading" and the "all other bangboos have defective brains" bits in particular actually got a laugh out of me. definitely interested in seeing more of her in season 2

manipulating etheric energy definitely wasn't what i was expecting from wise/belle, not gonna lie. i was lowkey sold on the whole time rewind theory a lot of people were talking about, but in hindsight, the etheric energy manipulation is probably a lot more feasible and easier to balance for the story. i do at least like that they mentioned that vivian wasn't fully cured of her corruption, and that phaethon's powers simply halted the corruption process. it shows that they still have a clear room for growth for their abilities, and i'm curious to see how the story approaches it.

i would only really say my gripes in terms of the story come from the pacing. it simultaneously felt too short and too long at times. like that whole segment with vivian and phaethon going around looking for sacrifice cores definitely could've been longer imo, and at the same time, although i did really enjoy it, i do feel like hugo's inner demon section did go on for a bit longer than necessary. it probably could've been trimmed down a bit.

overall though, a solid conclusion for season 1 of the story, and like i said, i'm looking forward to seeing where things will go in season 2. i'll comb through the epilogue and get a feats list out within the next couple of days when i have a bit more free time probably, though off the top of my head, there wasn't too many super noteworthy things outside of a couple interesting feats and tidbits.
 
Redid Miyabi Calc, Large Building but still seems a bit low but will try calcing some more Bringer stuff if possible
Actually on Bringer, could we scale him to whatever that, IIRC, red thunderstorm he created within the Port Elpis Hollow just from unleashing his Ether energy to start charging up could get? I’m just curious if that’d count as something that can scale to him or would just be hax/ED
 
Uhhh, for it to scale, it'd have to be something he physically created somehow or created with an energy that's part of an UES which ZZZ doesn't have unless we can condense Ether into that which is possible since Ether is the main power source of the verse
 
just get some funny statements that ether can boost physicals or be used as an way to create stuff basically what naito said and ur good
 
Uhhh, for it to scale, it'd have to be something he physically created somehow or created with an energy that's part of an UES which ZZZ doesn't have unless we can condense Ether into that which is possible since Ether is the main power source of the verse
Yeah, the only reason I mention it is because it was created from his Ether energy and, as you mentioned, Ether is a power source in ZZZ for Ethereals and Sacrifcies at least, though I think I recall Trigger mentioning how skilled Anby and Soldier 11, both non Ether attribute agents, utilize Ether in combat.
An increase in Ether activity improves the physical statistics of an Ethereal and Bringer uses his Ether energy in his attacks just as with any other Ethereal uses their energy to physically enhance their strikes or unleash projectiles and shockwaves.
 
Yeah, the only reason I mention it is because it was created from his Ether energy and, as you mentioned, Ether is a power source in ZZZ for Ethereals and Sacrifcies at least, though I think I recall Trigger mentioning how skilled Anby and Soldier 11, both non Ether attribute agents, utilize Ether in combat.
An increase in Ether activity improves the physical statistics of an Ethereal and Bringer uses his Ether energy in his attacks just as with any other Ethereal uses their energy to physically enhance their strikes or unleash projectiles and shockwaves.
the 1.7 epilogue story also confirmed that etheric energy can be manipulated, and it seems like yixuan utilizes it with her attacks given the fact that she plans on teaching wise and belle how to use it

outside of that, we know high amounts of ether can obviously create crystals as we've seen it happen multiple times while people are being corrupted and turning into ethereals. and as mentioned yeah from a lot of boss attacks, it does seem like they're using etheric energy to power up their attacks or create things like shockwaves and energy projectiles. also, while not combat related, etheric energy itself is also used as a power source to power new eridu, as the shiyu pillars converts the energy from hollow zero to use as power for new eridu, so in general, i think it's pretty fair game in regards to that bringer storm creation feat
 
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