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Dragon Ball Z's Son Goku's third key (AKA Ginyu Fight Goku) has this AP justification:
With his Dwarf Star level+ rating with Kaio-ken x 10 being based on him being implied to assist against Second Form Frieza using this scan:
But I think this line of scaling should be removed from Goku's profile for a few reasons:
1) It's not specified that Goku would be able to assist against Second Form Frieza using only his Kaio-ken x 10. With his friend's lives on the line Goku could recklessly go up to an even higher level of Kaio-ken if he needed to. Or use an ability like the Spirit Bomb.
2) Just because Goku wanted to assist his friends doesn't necessarily mean he scales to Frieza or would have a realistic chance here. We've seen characters rush into combat against vastly superior fighters before like when Piccolo, Krillin and Gohan attempted to team up against Final Form Frieza and accomplish nothing. If we were to scale Goku to Frieza just because he wanted to fight him, that would imply all of these characters are comparable to Frieza too despite that being completely untrue.
3) We know that Saiyans get an incredible boost from being severely injured and recovering. This is in fact what enables Goku to stand a chance against Frieza later on. Goku mentally telling his friends to hold out until all his wounds are healed doesn't necessarily mean "I could beat Frieza with my current level of power" so much as it more likely means "I'll be a lot stronger in a few minutes and will be able to help out then."
So Goku "being implied to help against Second Form Frieza" should not be a justification on his Ginyu Fight key. I propose we remove that bit of scaling.
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Agree: Damage3245, SamanPatou, LordTracer, UchihaSlayer96, DeagonX, DarkDragonMedeus, Maverick Zero X
Disagree:
With his Dwarf Star level+ rating with Kaio-ken x 10 being based on him being implied to assist against Second Form Frieza using this scan:
But I think this line of scaling should be removed from Goku's profile for a few reasons:
1) It's not specified that Goku would be able to assist against Second Form Frieza using only his Kaio-ken x 10. With his friend's lives on the line Goku could recklessly go up to an even higher level of Kaio-ken if he needed to. Or use an ability like the Spirit Bomb.
2) Just because Goku wanted to assist his friends doesn't necessarily mean he scales to Frieza or would have a realistic chance here. We've seen characters rush into combat against vastly superior fighters before like when Piccolo, Krillin and Gohan attempted to team up against Final Form Frieza and accomplish nothing. If we were to scale Goku to Frieza just because he wanted to fight him, that would imply all of these characters are comparable to Frieza too despite that being completely untrue.
3) We know that Saiyans get an incredible boost from being severely injured and recovering. This is in fact what enables Goku to stand a chance against Frieza later on. Goku mentally telling his friends to hold out until all his wounds are healed doesn't necessarily mean "I could beat Frieza with my current level of power" so much as it more likely means "I'll be a lot stronger in a few minutes and will be able to help out then."
So Goku "being implied to help against Second Form Frieza" should not be a justification on his Ginyu Fight key. I propose we remove that bit of scaling.
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Agree: Damage3245, SamanPatou, LordTracer, UchihaSlayer96, DeagonX, DarkDragonMedeus, Maverick Zero X
Disagree:
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