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I find it very ironic that after proposing a discussion rule on the topic, I'm the one that's about to downgrade Black Divider. However, this is still well within the discussion rule as this is new information that I'm surprised no one has brought up. So, here we go.
So, what's the evidence? New stuff in the Elf arc? Perhaps some info on devils themselves? No, actually. This comes from the Spade arc, and it comes from Megicula of all devils. So, Gaja does a big attack and completely vaporizes Megicula's body. Then, we get this. Noelle at this point is stuck in her base form and still tries to finish off Megicula, and we get a few things from this short thought process.
1. The devil's heart is considered a weak point. Why would the heart be more durable than the rest of the body if it was considered a weak point? Now, you could say it still makes sense to be a weak point given that destroying it kills the devil. However, that's where the next point comes in.
2. Noelle firmly believed that a Saint Stage attack, even if it was weak, would be enough to destroy Megicula's heart. This aligns with the devil's heart being a weak point, and it contradicts the idea of the devil's heart being more durable than the body.
3. Compounding all of this is Noelle referring to the heart as an "exposed weak point" after Gaja vaporizes it. This point is somewhat less solid, but basically when she says this, it directly flashes back to when Licht used Conquering Eon to destroy Zagred's body and it exposed his heart. It basically shows that the attack didn't destroy his heart for the sole reason that it simply destroyed his body and just left the heart exposed. Basically, Licht really should've gone for the kill.
Now, I know the obvious counter-argument here: "Noelle isn't a reliable source about devils." To that I would say, you're correct. However, Loropechika is. She's the one that fully explained how these devils work, including how only arcane stages (and saint stages but Undine revealed that one since she never told Loropechika) can defeat a devil. Given the knowledge Loropechika passed, it doesn't make sense for Noelle to try and finish off Megicula's heart. Moreover, it makes even less sense for Gaja to send out a signal (which is heavily implied to be for Noelle to go finish off Megicula once her heart is exposed, given the context of it all and the fact that he would know even more than Noelle since he's been with Loropechika longer)
Now, I've established the downgrade. What do we do from here? It's very simple. Scale him to Low 6-B via scaling to Zagred, as he could damage him just like Yuno did with Spirit of Zephyr. And no, this is not a combined attack by our standards of one. Also, we'd need to remove the "Low 6-B+ for his heart" on Zagred's durability. Nothing else changes because Dark Triad scaling means no one relies on Black Divider for scaling anymore.
Now that I've said my piece, what are you guys' thoughts?
So, what's the evidence? New stuff in the Elf arc? Perhaps some info on devils themselves? No, actually. This comes from the Spade arc, and it comes from Megicula of all devils. So, Gaja does a big attack and completely vaporizes Megicula's body. Then, we get this. Noelle at this point is stuck in her base form and still tries to finish off Megicula, and we get a few things from this short thought process.
1. The devil's heart is considered a weak point. Why would the heart be more durable than the rest of the body if it was considered a weak point? Now, you could say it still makes sense to be a weak point given that destroying it kills the devil. However, that's where the next point comes in.
2. Noelle firmly believed that a Saint Stage attack, even if it was weak, would be enough to destroy Megicula's heart. This aligns with the devil's heart being a weak point, and it contradicts the idea of the devil's heart being more durable than the body.
3. Compounding all of this is Noelle referring to the heart as an "exposed weak point" after Gaja vaporizes it. This point is somewhat less solid, but basically when she says this, it directly flashes back to when Licht used Conquering Eon to destroy Zagred's body and it exposed his heart. It basically shows that the attack didn't destroy his heart for the sole reason that it simply destroyed his body and just left the heart exposed. Basically, Licht really should've gone for the kill.
Now, I know the obvious counter-argument here: "Noelle isn't a reliable source about devils." To that I would say, you're correct. However, Loropechika is. She's the one that fully explained how these devils work, including how only arcane stages (and saint stages but Undine revealed that one since she never told Loropechika) can defeat a devil. Given the knowledge Loropechika passed, it doesn't make sense for Noelle to try and finish off Megicula's heart. Moreover, it makes even less sense for Gaja to send out a signal (which is heavily implied to be for Noelle to go finish off Megicula once her heart is exposed, given the context of it all and the fact that he would know even more than Noelle since he's been with Loropechika longer)
On top of that, why would Gaja try to sacrifice his life if he knew no one was capable of finishing Megicula off? And this is after Noelle's Spirit Dive ran out.
Now, I've established the downgrade. What do we do from here? It's very simple. Scale him to Low 6-B via scaling to Zagred, as he could damage him just like Yuno did with Spirit of Zephyr. And no, this is not a combined attack by our standards of one. Also, we'd need to remove the "Low 6-B+ for his heart" on Zagred's durability. Nothing else changes because Dark Triad scaling means no one relies on Black Divider for scaling anymore.
Now that I've said my piece, what are you guys' thoughts?