MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

[DuDE01010]

Yeah, he deserves to be called out for stating something like this.

Absolutely no shocker why an 85% White country would feature primarily Whites in their films.

Don't get triggered by facts Blue lmao

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also found this

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Also found this

Isn't that just Hawkeye's post credit scene

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Isn't that just Hawkeye's post credit scene

Is it? I never watched the post credit scenes for it

 

[Dalesean027]

Is it? I never watched the post credit scenes for it

Yeah the finale one was the full play

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

And with that, Phase 4 is over

 

[Propellus]

But meh, this phase was mediocre

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

So do we make a new thread or just change the name of this one and keep on going?

 

[DuDE01010]

Phase 4 seems mid due to just how much of a content dump there was, more than double the amount of content of phase 1+2 and how great phase 3 was.

If we average the hits/misses, phase 4 is still better 1 and 2.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

The only worth of watch from Phase 4 Shang-Chi, NWH, and Moon Knight
Eternals, MoM, and (maybe) Wakanda Forever aren't for everyone, rest are not good in slightness

 

[Lonkitt]

Eh I mean he's not wrong and while it's not a shocker that also doesn't necessarily make it right either to ignore character ethnicities going in any direction and race swapping people or not getting people of appropriate ethnicity over white people is in bad taste.

It's like the problem people have with like movies that portray ancient Egypt but it's all just white people or people of much lighter skin tones than just actually getting ethnic actors and extras.

It’s kind of insane how many non-white characters are made white in the MCU

 

[Lonkitt]

The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special is out, and Mantis is definitely going to need some stuff added. She demonstrates mind manipulation, has surprisingly good combat skill sufficient to beat up multiple armed police officers, performs superhuman leaps comparable to what Drax can do, and dodges a bullet.

From what I could gather, Mantis gets the following

Peak Human Physical Characteristics
Acrobatics
Mind Manipulation
Martial Arts
Weapon Mastery

9-C upgrade is probably fair here. As for the bullet dodge (I think she dodged it at least), that should be calc’d. Her intelligence section could also get a minor glow up given she stomped police officers in close combat while drunk

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

At what time did the bullet dodge happen?

 

[Lonkitt]

It happens when the police confront Mantis and Drax after having chased Kevin Bacon. Specifically when Mantis begins fighting the police herself

I don’t have a time stamp on me unfortunately

 

[Bri4117]

It looks like 20:19 for the bullet dodge

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Also Mantis and Drax traveled around different celebrity homes in the same night
Idk much about the distance between the houses so i'm asking if that could be a feat?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

So i went frame by frame at the bullet dodging part and it seems like Mantis was already moving before the cop fired at her

 

[Lonkitt]

Sounds about right

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah so i dunno if that can be calced bcuz of that
Also here's a Silly calc

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

It’s kind of insane how many non-white characters are made white in the MCU

They're gonna make Doctor Doom white again, aren't they?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Pretty sure Mantis might have surface scaling. It looks like she just sticks to a wall at some point (Unless she's grabbing the corner)

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They're gonna make Doctor Doom white again, aren't they?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Isn’t doom white in the comics?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Isn’t doom white in the comics?

Romani, like Wanda and Pietro

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

They should get an actual latverian to play Doom in the next movie

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

They should get an actual latverian to play Doom in the next movie

I mean in terms of skin tone

 

[Lonkitt]

They're gonna make Doctor Doom white again, aren't they?

Unfortunately, I believe that will be the case. If they don’t do that, then colour me impressed

 

[Lonkitt]

Romani, like Wanda and Pietro

Virgin fake Russian accent MCU Pietro vs Chad Romani 616 Pietro

 

[RoTt35]

We forgot to upgrade the Guardians' weaponry to 8-A since they were able to harm Korg

 

[Lacku]

We forgot to upgrade the Guardians' weaponry to 8-A since they were able to harm Korg

Star lords blasters also shot right through Ego so that can be another justification

 

[Dinobot1996]

Star lords blasters also shot right through Ego so that can be another justification

It seems there was already a discussion on that mentioned on Ego's profile with a link to the thread provided:

Note: Ego being harmed by Quill's weapons was considered in this thread to be due to him making an intentionally human body.

If we still think Star-Lord's blasters should be comparable to that 8-A weaponry, a few characters would be upgraded.

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Where does building level come from (for the Guardian's)? Spider-Man scaling?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

 

[RoTt35]

It seems there was already a discussion on that mentioned on Ego's profile with a link to the thread provided:

Note: Ego being harmed by Quill's weapons was considered in this thread to be due to him making an intentionally human body.

If we still think Star-Lord's blasters should be comparable to that 8-A weaponry, a few characters would be upgraded.

Quill's weapons and Rocket's explosives also destroyed Ego's energy constructs, and the Yaka Arrow is 8-A for that

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

 

[Lonkitt]

People can jokingly say "8-C Nebula", but this is legitimate proof??? I think??? We know that she definitely didn't pull off the trick we saw in F&TWS since that was something literally only known by the people who made the arm

EDIT: Yup, its proof


Truthfully, a lot of the Guardians could use some revisions regarding their stats. I feel good with how I wrote their teamwork sections on their Team page, but the stats are a bit all over the place

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Truthfully, a lot of the Guardians could use some revisions regarding their stats. I feel good with how I wrote their teamwork sections on their Team page, but the stats are a bit all over the place

Gamora survives this explosion

 

[Lonkitt]

That hasn't been calc'd yet? Huh

 

[Coolboy6]

So, Mantis is street level now. Huh. Also was the reason she didn’t use mindhax on Thanos was because his mind was too strong? Thanos is mindhax resistant

 

[Dinobot1996]

I don't believe this explosion feat got a calc either:
(2:38)

 

[Coolboy6]

So, why does it say that Gamora fought proxima midnight on her profile when they’ve never fought onscreen from what I could recall? It would be better to say that she could be comparable due to idk, having similar training under Thanos I guess? Gamora is Thanos’ favorite child so she could very well be stronger