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Class 100 and Class K
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John Walker rips through Falcon's wings
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Avengers Age of Ultron- Cap the Beefcake Tears Dat Log
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This was stated in the beginning of the calcFirst one doesn't work because log-splitting was already deemed by other official sources to be Class 10 range.
Using a log splitter as reference is just... bad, they are simply not good comparisons to make, it's essentialy sheer strength vs tensile strength
- Sheer strength is cutting an object (Log splitters push a log onto a fine point to split it)
- Tensile strength is pulling an object (Steve ripping apart logs with his bare hands)
Even with this being taken into account, the calc is still incorrect. The actual area affected would be this:This was stated in the beginning of the calc
First one doesn't work because log-splitting was already deemed by other official sources to be Class 10 range.
John Walker's feat is just a massive outlier.
I disagree with the upgrades.
This was stated in the beginning of the calc
Even with this being taken into account, the calc is still incorrect. The actual area affected would be this:
(Diameter of the log in meters x Height of the Log in meters) x Tensile Strength in Pascal
That's my bad then for not looking deeper into the source and method
There is... another issue.
The log seems to have a hole in the top, which might've helped with the split. Not sure by how much, but maybe a significant margin.
If you guys are looking for LS upgrades for Cap then look no further than this scene from The Winter Soldier
It's a legit straight up LS feat with the potential for Class 50 or even 100 IMO
This is derailing from the purpose of this CRT. Discuss this somewhere else@MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer
I know it's irrelevant, but something just popped into my head. While trying to erase everyone's minds on Doctor Strange Nwh, did he create a pocket dimension there, or was it space-time manipulation?
Can you share the calc when possible?Okay so I tried to measure the hole.
There is only good news. It only decreases the calc by a tiny bit, but it's still high-end Class K.
Unfortunately, this now enters outlier territory.
Its an outlier it seemsIt should be noted that it looks like it was the 7449378 Newtons, 759365.74kg or 759.36 ton mid-end of the John Walker calc that was accepted, so I guess that means both of the Class K feats are high-end.
There's also Spidey's Class 100 feat from Civil War, which Cap should scale toIts an outlier it seems
I will try later.Can you share the calc when possible?
It's misrepresentEd in the calc. What he did was tear away the joints connecting the wings to the backpack rather than tear apart the wings them. The only thing you could get from tearing is fine the volume of the joint he ripped.John Walker's feat is just a massive outlier.
I keep forgetting, I think I calculated the volume of the joint he ripped, it was pretty low but still.It's misrepresentEd in the calc. What he did was tear away the joints connecting the wings to the backpack rather than tear apart the wings them. The only thing you could get from tearing is fine the volume of the joint he ripped.
Wasn't there a way to account for it using sin or whatever? I saw Spino use it on a chain pulling feat for Jessica Jones.Even then joints are notorious for being weak points due to how you can leverage them.
Yeah, since you can calculate how much material is at the leverage point that they would need to break. You can also do things with the angle of the force but I'm not sure how to do that.Wasn't there a way to account for it using sin or whatever?
Cap tearin' dat ass coming up.
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Yes he did, if you go a bit further into the video you can see the wiring coming out with the connecting points.John didn't rip off the joints, you can actually see he ripped through the wings, so the calculation is fine to use
Spidey's Class K calc does not scale to his base self, it's his maximum peak which he struggled immensely with and completely failed to get control over after he hit his head on the bell.The combination of Cap's own feat, John Walker's feat, and Spider-Man's feat, make Class K consistent and not an outlier
God it feels so wrong to get Class K via ripping a log that smallCap tearin' dat ass coming up.
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This ultimately turns into shear strength if we're talking about saws being involved, so until then, nah. No way to find out for tensile strength ATM.God it feels so wrong to get Class K via ripping a log that small
But whatever, tensile strength calcs often turn out that way anyway
I do have a question though
Would him going with the grain significantly affect how much force is needed to rip the log?
This article is about Saws but it highlights the point I'm trying to make
Idn if there's a way to account for that but I just wanted to bring that up
Alright I just did my own rough calculation of tearing apart the wings at the joints and I only got Class 25-100 LSYes he did, if you go a bit further into the video you can see the wiring coming out with the connecting points.
Spidey's Class K calc does not scale to his base self
Prolly somewhere around that ballpark I'd reckon.Alright I just did my own rough calculation of tearing apart the wings at the joints and I only got Class 25-100 LS
Ah.I meant his Class 100 feats
Well tbf, it's probably simplfied to the point of being higher than actual. Since as soon as the log begins to split it causes a cascading failure and force is concentrated in a small area.God it feels so wrong to get Class K via ripping a log that small
@Jason_Courne made his calcor get a more accurate and exact calc for tearing Falcon's wings at the joints (which might be Class 100 anyway)
In fact, why didn't we scale Cap's LS to Spidey's in the first place?If Class K is too much of an outlier to use (which it's very much looking like at this point), I feel like we should either just scale Cap to Spider-Man's Class 100 feat, or get a more accurate and exact calc for tearing Falcon's wings at the joints (which might be Class 100 anyway)
Alright, that's good. I'm not sure which end would be best to go with. Also, unless I missed it, doesn't the area need to be doubled to account for both wings being torn off?
Good question, I always did find that a bit odd.In fact, why didn't we scale Cap's LS to Spidey's in the first place?