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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

I wake up and see a mess of time this and direction that and all that nonsense and it only proves my point regarding how Tier 1 is hard to get into and even harder to maintain because even those who we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject have different opinions on some level and the standards they set aren't easy to understand but get worse once a verse reaches the standards (Dragon Ball), now it's some misinterpreting nonsense which starts another conversation that bulks up the standards even more with some of the knowledgeable members unable to give use an example of verses that follow the standards. I'll be shocked if Dragon Ball even makes it to Tier 1 let alone sustains it.

This is why I'm just going to give up on Tier 1 entirely for evaluating, standards are constantly shifting, I see why other staff don't bother. But I'm honestly tired of Tier 1 who ha. Is there any news on the latest Dragon Ball series other than the stuff previously announced?
 
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LordGriffin1000 said:
I wake up and see a mess of time this and direction that and all that nonsense and it only proves my point regarding how Tier 1 is hard to get into and even harder to maintain because even those who we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject have different opinions on some level and the standards they set aren't easy to understand but get worse once a verse reaches the standards, now it's some misinterpreting nonsense which starts another conversation that bulks up the standards even more with some of the knowledgeable members unable to give use an example of verses that follow the standards. I'll be shocked if Dragon Ball even makes it to Tier 1 let alone sustains it.

This is why I'm just going to give up on Tier 1 entirely for evaluating, standards are constantly shifting, I see why other staff don't bother. But I'm honestly tired of Tier 1 who ha. Is there any news on the latest Dragon Ball series other than the stuff previously announced?
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The new anime will have 20 episodes, and it will be delivered all at once, that's what you could interpret in a director's speech.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
I wake up and see a mess of time this and direction that and all that nonsense and it only proves my point regarding how Tier 1 is hard to get into and even harder to maintain because even those who we consider "knowledgeable" on the subject have different opinions on some level and the standards they set aren't easy to understand but get worse once a verse reaches the standards (Dragon Ball), now it's some misinterpreting nonsense which starts another conversation that bulks up the standards even more with some of the knowledgeable members unable to give use an example of verses that follow the standards. I'll be shocked if Dragon Ball even makes it to Tier 1 let alone sustains it.

This is why I'm just going to give up on Tier 1 entirely for evaluating, standards are constantly shifting, I see why other staff don't bother. But I'm honestly tired of Tier 1 who ha. Is there any news on the latest Dragon Ball series other than the stuff previously announced?
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Well honestly, only two people are stretching this tier 1 nonsense, PoP and the other guy.

Even when DT clarified his points, DB and Ben 10 still qualified,
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Well see, I wouldn't hold my breath tho.
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little brother, I really don't know how you can handle these changes almost every month, people understand the subject should make it easier for everyone to understand and not to complicate matters any further, I really didn't understand anything that DT mentioned
 
Also, sorry if I sound like a downer with my comments but this shit is annoying. I've been spending past time trying to gain an understanding of at least the methods of achieving Tier 1 (Specifically Low 1-C) to help out with evaluation for any verse that attempts to achieve it but I don't see that happening if the standards shift all the time. I'm just going to focus my efforts elsewhere.

Lawyerr said:
Man seeing Goku with his Z look and smile makes me happy.
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Same.
 
SYPHe5D said:
I really don’t know why even bother making that tier of everyone is gonna on each others throats out of bias against a certain verse qualifying.
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This really is something upset, I really liked Reiner's changes, but they're trying to change again
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Also, sorry if I sound like a downer with my comments but this shit is annoying. I've been spending past time trying to gain an understanding of at least the methods of achieving Tier 1 (Specifically Low 1-C) to help out with evaluation for any verse that attempts to achieve it but I don't see that happening if the standards shift all the time. I'm just going to focus my efforts elsewhere.
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I think you could create some kind of rules so as not to change the tier 1 standard before the change has been completed for 1 year
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Also, sorry if I sound like a downer with my comments but this shit is annoying. I've been spending past time trying to gain an understanding of at least the methods of achieving Tier 1 (Specifically Low 1-C) to help out with evaluation for any verse that attempts to achieve it but I don't see that happening if the standards shift all the time. I'm just going to focus my efforts elsewhere.


Same.
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No like even if a verse qualifies, someone will just make a downgrade thread and attempt to change the standards again,it is just pointless at this point, if you don’t have actual concrete standards.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Also, sorry if I sound like a downer with my comments but this shit is annoying. I've been spending past time trying to gain an understanding of at least the methods of achieving Tier 1 (Specifically Low 1-C) to help out with evaluation for any verse that attempts to achieve it but I don't see that happening if the standards shift all the time. I'm just going to focus my efforts elsewhere.
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Have you ever thought about Danny Phantom pumped up with tier 1?
 
Imma call BS when I see it, I literally said several pages ago wiki standards were changed (or at the very least changes were proposed in a staff only thread) multiple times in the past when DB met those said standards and what happens when canon DB finally meets the standards for tier 1? Lo and behold!

Also the fact most mods/staff don't even want to think about tier 1 and the crux of several verses reaching tier 1 is via the words of two or three specific high level staff members (essentially appeal to authority) who have different interpretations of tier 1 is wild to me, but that's a discussion for another time.
 
SYPHe5D said:
No like even if a verse qualifies, someone will just make a downgrade thread and attempt to change the standards again,it is just pointless at this point, if you don’t have actual concrete standards.
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That's how it seems.

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Have you ever thought about Danny Phantom pumped up with tier 1?
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It has been brought to my attention but I haven't tried really. Danny Phantom follows this logic... There exist infinite realms/timestreams (timelines) within the Ghost Zone and are all separated from each other by it's space. The Ghost Zone itself is an infinite realm that has a time direction that flows both forwards and backwards at the same time. This is not enough for tier 1 since apparently time needs to flow in a different direction (aka up and down) compared to the standard left to right axis (past to future), future to past doesn't count.

This is a Dragon Ball thread so I'd rather just talk about ye old Dragon Ball.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Imma call BS when I see it, I literally said several pages ago wiki standards were changed (or at the very least changes were proposed in a staff only thread) multiple times in the past when DB met those said standards and what happens when canon DB finally meets the standards for tier 1? Lo and behold!

Also the fact most mods/staff don't even want to think about tier 1 and the crux of several verses reaching tier 1 is via the words of two or three specific high level staff members (essentially appeal to authority) who have different interpretations of tier 1 is wild to me, but that's a discussion for another time.
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I'll be honest, the more this goes on, the more I think that time shouldn't even be a factor for AP since no one seems to know what it should really be.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
That's how it seems.


It has been brought to my attention but I haven't tried really. Danny Phantom follows this logic... There exist infinite realms/timestreams (timelines) within the Ghost Zone and are all separated from each other by it's space. The Ghost Zone itself is an infinite realm that has a time direction that flows both forwards and backwards at the same time. This is not enough for tier 1 since apparently time needs to flow in a different direction (aka up and down) compared to the standard left to right axis (past to future), future to past doesn't count.

This is a Dragon Ball thread so I'd rather just talk about ye old Dragon Ball.
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Thank you very much for your answer, bro
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
this... technically it's indeterminate. But is practically treated as infinite. Cringe.
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Oh this I can agree with, I'm not a fan of the infinite gap between a single universe and two in terms of power but hey it's easier than Tier 1.

Also does anyone have any plans to fix up more of the movie profiles?
 
Aren't there supposed to be a huge T2 revision where universal counts no longer gives a different AP and only scaling chain matters?

Because all of Tier 2 is just Infinite 4D.
 
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