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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
I mean we've still haven't seen Zalama (creator of the SDBs) yet an entire arc was dedicated to a new set of dragon balls, a new dragon and its creator and from what I've seen most casual fans have already forgotten about it and just want to see more of Black Frieza.

Tl;dr: Dragonball could do with an up to date lorebook.
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OMG Zalama and Ss are the same people, they are not different people lol
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Dragon Balls were used by Namekians to mimic the almighty power of the Super Dragon Balls.

As far as it's known, there is no actual proof of the Super Dragon Balls having a creator.
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To answer these questions it's necessary to look back at the original set of Dragon Balls that spawned all the rest. The Super Dragon Balls were created by a powerful Dragon God, named Zalama. These Dragon Balls are the size of planets and only grant a single wish when activated. However, this wish has no limits, unlike the wishes of other Dragon Balls, and has been used to restore entire universes that were destroyed. Both in size and power, these Super Dragon Balls dwarf the ones of Earth and Namek.


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Super Dragon Ball

The Super Dragon Balls (超スーパー龍ドラゴン球ボール, Sūpā Doragon Bōru) are a set of seven planet-sized Dragon Balls created by the Dragon God, Zalama, and the first known set of Dragon Balls to be created predating the creation of the Namekian Dragon Balls. In "The Legend of a Dragon", a story is told by...
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The Super Dragon Balls (超スーパードラゴンボール Sūpā Doragon Bōru) are a set of seven planet-sized Dragon Balls created by the Dragon God, Zalama, and the first known set of Dragon Balls to be created predating the creation of the Namekian Dragon Balls.

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Zalama

Zalama (ザラマ, Zarama) is the Dragon God (龍神, Ryūjin) and the creator of the Super Dragon Balls. In the English dub, it is said that Zalama is the divine dragon of the Super Dragon Balls. In the 41st year of the Divine Calendar, Zalama formed the Super Dragon Balls. He shaped the balls to be the...
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Zalama (ザラマ Zarama) is the Dragon God (龍神 Ryūjin) and the creator of the Super Dragon Balls.
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
As far as it's known, there is no actual proof of the Super Dragon Balls having a creator.
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Killerdrone123 said:
What are your thoughts about this blog

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Infinite Zamasu Fused with the Multiverse

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It's true 宇宙 is often used to refer to the entire multiverse, TOP shows this several times, and I don't think "Zeno is the most eminent god in the universe" really makes sense as being taken to refer to U7 where he isn't even at (i.e. you wouldn't call Supreme Kai the god of Earth or the galaxy or something).

The official Toei Timeline or whatever uses the phrase "future 宇宙" which unless we're to downgrade Zeno to only destroying one universe in Trunks' timeline, yeah. It's definitely possible to be the case.
 
Kroneii1 said:
I see it as valid, it does a good job of explaining the use of the word "universe" and what it means in the context of the series.
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So should we propose a crt in future when things calm down cause seriously him only fusing with u7 doesn't make sense
 
SSJGeminiJJ said:
It's true 宇宙 is often used to refer to the entire multiverse, TOP shows this several times, and I don't think "Zeno is the most eminent god in the universe" really makes sense as being taken to refer to U7 where he isn't even at (i.e. you wouldn't call Supreme Kai the god of Earth or the galaxy or something).

The official Toei Timeline or whatever uses the phrase "future 宇宙" which unless we're to downgrade Zeno to only destroying one universe in Trunks' timeline, yeah. It's definitely possible to be the case.
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Interesting thanks for your input
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Why tf was this rejected
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World and Universes ARE interchanged back to back in the same episode (We know Zeno isn't native to U7 in any way whatsoever, and it's not singular here and is literally coinciding with Goku saying THE Zeno of this world/multiverse/timeline moments ago)
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Bulma using "宇宙" instead of "世界", given she knows very little of Zen-Oh, is a non-factor. Besides, currently, she knows the Supreme Kai of the Multiverse were murdered by Goku Black, and that the Gods of Destructions happened to perish with their respective Kai.
Here's Goku Black using 宇宙Uchuu for Universes plural (quite obviously meant to refer all the Universes put into perspective under the entire narrative and story of this arc and what he's been doing, which is slaughtering mortals across all the Universes)
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Narratively speaking, Goku Black has ventured throughout the Multiverse and wiped the Universes 1-6 and 8-12 by that time.
He is clearly referring to Universe 7 itself, especially given its prominent resistance. For cripes's sake, Black had been occupying Earth the entire time.
Here's another episode where in the literal same sentence Goku Black blatantly interchanges and establishes 宇宙Uchuu (Universes) and 世界 Sekai (World) as synonymous (there really isn't any room to interpret as him saying Universe singular, since his literal whole plan and what he's already doing is trying to beautify all 12 Universes, not just U7)
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"世界" in this instance explicitly refers to the planet, and "宇宙" the cosmos of Universe 7.
Another instance of Uchuu宇宙 being used in reference to all the Universes is when Zamasu refers to mortals in general existing, as the reason for their not being peace in the "Universe", which in context refers to all Universes as they all contain mortals and are encompassed in his analysis
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Again, "宇宙" refers to the cosmos—the totality of the "other planets" Zamasu has witnessed global violence in. Zamasu viewed the Barbarians as yet another plague upon the universe in a series of ever-increasingly monstrous races across the universe, like humans.

Like, yadda, yadda, bip, bip, bip.
 
Besides, if Zen-Oh destroyed the entire timeline,
  1. How were Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks able to travel back to Future Trunks's world to retrieve Future Zen-Oh?
  2. How were Trunks and Mai able to travel back to before Zamasu invaded the future Universe 7?
How did they return to and even rewrite the history of an overarching space-time continuum that no longer existed at all?
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Besides, if Zen-Oh destroyed the entire timeline,
  1. How were Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks able to travel back to Future Trunks's world to retrieve Future Zen-Oh?
  2. How were Trunks and Mai able to travel back to before Zamasu invaded the future Universe 7?
How did they return to and even rewrite the history of an overarching space-time continuum that no longer existed at all?
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Profectus made a nice explanation on it and likewise manga story was somewhat taken from the anime they wouldn't show destruction of timeline in manga properly If they haven't meant in the anime aswell
 
The bulk of that Reddit post is manga-exclusive information, and half of what is said in the anime is presented through the English dub, besides being a lot of yibber-jabber that never fully addresses how or why the Time Machine could return to the future.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
The bulk of that Reddit post is manga-exclusive information, and half of what is said in the anime is presented through the English dub, besides being a lot of yibber-jabber that never fully addresses how or why the Time Machine could return to the future.
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It is simple time machine does dimension travel to reach other timelines they have to just locate the co-ordinates where trunks timeline was before it got erased
 
Nullflowerblush said:
If the entire space-time continuum was erased, then there is no "before" to travel to, right?
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They have to just follow the co-ordinates of trunks timeline to where it was before it got erased I am not saying in the sense that they have to go in the past of the trunks timeline
 
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