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Cathleen Bate vs Satoru Gojo
Speed unequalized
Cathleen has prior knowledge (of Gojo’s full name, how his abilities and techniques work, and the existence and properties of Cursed Energy)
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Verses are basically equalized in vs matches in that domain expansions are allowed to work on opponents the same way genjutsu for example is allowed to work on characters outside their verse.From what the domains imply, it does not affect non-magical characters since they do not know where to aim.
Yes, that's the main idea of this but in jujutsu they are very specific with this but chakra, ki, nen, are basically life energy similar to when they say that all verses have a soul until otherwise stated.Verses are basically equalized in vs matches in that domain expansions are allowed to work on opponents the same way genjutsu for example is allowed to work on characters outside their verse.
All that means is cursed energy = supernatural energyVerses are basically equalized in vs matches in that domain expansions are allowed to work on opponents the same way genjutsu for example is allowed to work on characters outside their verse.
At no point is it indicated that Satoru's domain is like this,Domains cant identify things that lack cursed energy
Thats true, yeah
But Gojo's domain, along side Sukuna's, is the kind of domain that this doesnt matter. Anything that enters the domain is gonna get folded by a unlimited amount of information except Gojo. He can put Star in the domain yes if he want to since star doesnt know how it works
Beside, he has six eyes. If Unlimited Void dont work due to Star's lack of cursed energy, he will know way before anything since he will realize her lack of cursed energy, and thus would go with Hollow, which for time being is accepted as EE and void hax. Even if the speed gap is big, It doesnt matter much since she wouldnt be capable to sense nor see Hollow, beside the fact that I doubt that Star's travel speed is that big
Also, she lacks a innate domain, so Gojo could spawn a Blue inside her, creating a bug in the world where the existence tries to fix it by putting amount of matter in the place
Yes, but Gojo does not have good ways to harm Star and his use of domain expansion Star crushes him while his brain cools down, and knowing how Gojo is, for him to use it would not be something strange.Star has no way of hurting Gojo her only shot is erasing the air but he can just teleport away.
Yes, it was. Gojo's cant-miss aspect isnt selected but passive, thats why I said that wouldnt matter if she lacks cursed energyAt no point is it indicated that Satoru's domain is like this
Sukuna is Sukuna, Star is Star. And as said, for the time being, its EE. So lets not waste time with thisRegarding the purple one, it does not seem to have the necessary power together with the preparation that it seems to require. It should have nullified durability but Sukuna survived one in the face and another stopped him with his hands.
Satoru is a genius and knows basically everything in the Jujutsu world, and have faced someone who lacks completly cursed energy, so if he fight someone without CE ever again, he would be prepared and know what to do.and finally, yes, Satoru may know that he does not have cursed energy but nothing tells us that he knows that the domain will not affect him.
Yeah, beside the fact that lacking cursed energy in JJK is the same as Aca Type 4 with some extras, so I would say that equalization would be fineCursed Energy stems from negative emotions. Even normal people with no powers whatsoever have it. Pretty sure Stripes would have it with verse equalization.
No it isn't.That would be assuming that a verse that has never been shown to have magic does, in bnha there are no cursed spirits or anything like that.
It would be assuming that everyone has chacka, ki or nen which are simply vital energy.
jujutsu hehcraft is very specific
Cursed Energy stems from negative emotions. Even normal people with no powers whatsoever have it. Pretty sure Stripes would have it with verse equalization.
No, loading the opponent's brain with information is the power of the domain, not something that just happens, one strange thing is that it doesn't seem to do anything else since when Gojo wanted to use red he was going to use his hands, it's not a thing environmental as with jogo, it is like that of mahito or naoya that also affects anyone in it but not people without damn energy.Yes, it was. Gojo's cant-miss aspect isnt selected but passive, thats why I said that wouldnt matter if she lacks cursed energy
Sukuna is Sukuna, Star is Star. And as said, for the time being, its EE. So lets not waste time with this
Satoru is a genius and knows basically everything in the Jujutsu world, and have faced someone who lacks completly cursed energy, so if he fight someone without CE ever again, he would be prepared and know what to do.
And again, she lacks a innate domain, and thus Gojo can just spawn a Blue inside her, killing her instantaly without a problem
Yeah, beside the fact that lacking cursed energy in JJK is the same as Aca Type 4 with some extras, so I would say that equalization would be fine
-It doesn't seem like using the new order is tiring even with the 1920 meter giant.Gojo just outlast Star in this instance, she's far faster than him so he can't really reliable touch her or even trap her in his domain, but she has straight up no way to touch Gojo to utilize her knowledge in capacity to hurt him and besides that she's got nothing that would hurt him since even creating vacuums is something Gojo should be able to survive long enough to exit.
Eventually Star gets tired and Gojo wraps it up from there with a Domain Expansion or Hollow Purple.
It wasn't.At no point is it indicated that Satoru's domain is like this,
yes, everyone with a brain have negative emotion but not necessarily produce CE. Example in a verse anyone who have a soul have an energy that's is produced by it, it won't make sense to equalize this in every verse, because there is characters without soul able to use some kind of energy like a androids(DB) and they still considered an object in some verses.Cursed Energy stems from negative emotions. Even normal people with no powers whatsoever have it. Pretty sure Stripes would have it with verse equalization.
this is the problem people think no CE=unnatural(aca type4), CE has rules but it is not a law or fundamental thing that govern reality, then what a phone, a car, building is Aca type 4, by this logic anyone who affected a object with some kind of ability (Star and strip) will have Aca type4 and be able to deal with it in JJK.Yeah, beside the fact that lacking cursed energy in JJK is the same as Aca Type 4 with some extras, so I would say that equalization would be fine
they shouldn't have Acausality for being "abnormal", there is a lot of abnormal characters in different verses and they still don't get it.Type 4: Irregular Causality: Characters with this type of Acausality operate on a different and irregular system of cause and effect than regular causality. This grants them resistance to abilities such as Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition, among others.
the whole verse is mess.I will also wait,
Gojo always causes problems with his infinity and now I think jujutsu revisions continue to be made
Star and Stripe has a soul so that's irrelevant.It wasn't.
yes, everyone with a brain have negative emotion but not necessarily produce CE. Example in a verse anyone who have a soul have an energy that's is produced by it, it won't make sense to equalize this in every verse, because there is characters without soul able to use some kind of energy like a androids(DB) and they still considered an object in some verses..
DE can still effect HR users, the HR users simply can't be targeted by physical auto attacks, Gojo's DE is anything but physical.normal people=everyone except Toji and Maki, they still have negative emotions right, because NE≠CE and having a soul≠having supernatural energy.
CE is definitely fundamental to sorcerer's.this is the problem people think no CE=unnatural(aca type4), CE has rules but it is not a law or fundamental thing that govern reality
False comparison and a very bad one at that.then what a phone, a car, building is Aca type 4, by this logic anyone who affected a object with some kind of ability (Star and strip) will have Aca type4 and be able to deal with it in JJK.
They have it via being outside of the chains of fate which is directly stated.they shouldn't have Acausality for being "abnormal", there is a lot of abnormal characters in different verses and they still don't get it.
Makes no sense and isn't even applicable here since it's not like MHA characters don't have souls.ex: someone born without soul, someone born with multiple souls, someone born without any power in a world where everyone has it.
namely only for AP and stats.the whole verse is mess
You didn't process what you read did you?Star isn't tanking a Hollow Purple. Sukuna is different because he only blocked it with his hands which were both erased but he regenerated.
She can't resist having her mind ****** by infinite information overload.
Star and Stripe has a soul so that's irrelevant.
DE can still effect HR users, the HR users simply can't be targeted by physical auto attacks, Gojo's DE is anything but physical.
CE is definitely fundamental to sorcerer's.
False comparison and a very bad one at that.
They have it via being outside of the chains of fate which is directly stated.
Makes no sense and isn't even applicable here since it's not like MHA characters don't have souls.
namely only for AP and stats.
Star and Stripe has no way past infinity and can't tank Hollow Purple or IV.
try surviving an explosion by blocking it with your hand, HP erased building and you think his small hand saved him?Star isn't tanking a Hollow Purple. Sukuna is different because he only blocked it with his hands which were both erased but he regenerated.
It won't even effect her.She can't resist having her mind ****** by infinite information overload.
Toji and Maki also have souls and the domain ignore them.Star and Stripe has a soul so that's irrelevant.
It can't they are literally invisible to the domain, Except Sukuna's DE no one has ever affected an object or HR user with his DE.DE can still effect HR users, the HR users simply can't be targeted by physical auto attacks, Gojo's DE is anything but physical.
and not reality or the world.CE is definitely fundamental to sorcerer's.
Why?False comparison and a very bad one at that.
was it stated by an omniscient character or someone who can the future of the world (without relying on CE), because otherwise it's just exaggeration and flowery words.They have it via being outside of the chains of fate which is directly stated.
those were examples.Makes no sense and isn't even applicable here since it's not like MHA characters don't have souls.
not sure how her power work that's why I didn't vote.Star and Stripe has no way past infinity and can't tank Hollow Purple or IV.
It was by Tengenwas it stated by an omniscient character or someone who can the future of the world (without relying on CE), because otherwise it's just exaggeration and flowery words.
A while ago I opened a thread about my doubts when I finished reading the manga and a large part of the discussion was on toji breaking destiny, updates are being made to the profiles, are they going to post it? or in the end is he left without it?It was by Tengen
The context is that destiny can even allow someone who have never ever been born show up and defeat Kenjaku, because destiny said so
Ngl you guys seems too unknowledge about the verse to claim so many fundamental informations with such confidence, like the domain nature
this prove my point.It was by Tengen
The context is that destiny can even allow someone who have never ever been born show up and defeat Kenjaku, because destiny said so
Ngl you guys seems too unknowledge about the verse to claim so many fundamental informations with such confidence, like the domain nature
All that means is cursed energy = supernatural energy
She has none, she has biological powers
This argument doesn’t really work when put in vs setting. Not every verse has a “soul” but soul manipulation still works in vs matches nonetheless, same with genjutsu for example when chakra isn’t presented in other verses.Yeah, beside the fact that lacking cursed energy in JJK is the same as Aca Type 4 with some extras, so I would say that equalization would be fine
It's true, now that I think back on it, Touji could pass through their barriers without being detected at all.this prove my point.
Tengen is not omniscient or able to see the future even his Destiny statement "our destinies" is limited to the six eyes and plasma vessel, and what make you think that Tengen can even see someone with HR?
I know characters who were stated by a character who can see fate, future possibilities and all possible timelines (different past,present,future) to not have any and still they still don't get Acausality.
and again resisting CE users≠ resisting the world laws.
It is not about eliminating what a vs would be like between the 2 and ignoring such a great weakness would not be correctThis argument doesn’t really work when put in vs setting. Not every verse has a “soul” but soul manipulation still works in vs matches nonetheless, same with genjutsu for example when chakra isn’t presented in other verses.
Attacks are just assumed to work on each other in vs matches, and trying to strip Gojo of his domain in an outside vs match I think is not how it’s done not properly debated here.