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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

In fact, Toriyama is at the helm so I fully expect Daima to turn Dragonball Cosmology on its head. Either with a downgrade or upgrade.

So be prepared for next fall. Shit is going to get wild.
 
Wouldn’t events such as demigra erasing an infinite amount of Low 1-C timelines during xenoverse but still having his shit undone by a timescroll prove that those things operate on a higher time axis?

I’ll leave it to the experts to analyze because I’m not knowledgeable enough about DB games and overarching cosmology of them, much less tier 1 shenanigans.
 
Killerdrone123 said:
No crack of time doesn't have it's own time dimension
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I see, but if it has spacetime, wouldn't that mean there's a higher time dimension further servicing the timelines since the timelines can't be servicing the crack of time


Also why call it the crack of time if it's not a separate time dimension
 
Jaakor48 said:
I see, but if it has spacetime, wouldn't that mean there's a higher time dimension further servicing the timelines since the timelines can't be servicing the crack of time


Also why call it the crack of time if it's not a separate time dimension
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Even I came to that conclusion before but if I am not wrong c.o.t doesn't have time it was also called a space beyond time

 
Killerdrone123 said:
Even I came to that conclusion before but if I am not wrong c.o.t doesn't have time it was also called a space beyond time

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Even WoV doesn't have time initially but it's still under a time dimension tho, "space beyond time" is hard to quantify as it's saying that it's above time itself, father than lacking it


Has time travel affected the CoT before? Or have time abilities been used there?
 
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Time travel, or any change in time do nkt affect CoT, multiverse destruction also do not affect it
 
So how will the DBbros handle the 1-A changes? Because from what I've seen there are some translations of that Afterlife scan that implies a non-dimensional physiology, rather then just a place beyond whatever dimensions exist in the verse.

Is that scan even accepted to be worth anything or am I yapping.
 
Jaakor48 said:
Even WoV doesn't have time initially but it's still under a time dimension tho, "space beyond time" is hard to quantify as it's saying that it's above time itself, father than lacking it


Has time travel affected the CoT before? Or have time abilities been uses there?
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but there is no temporal dimension which contains c.o.t you have to prove that first it is only referred as a space not space-time
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
So how will the DBbros handle the 1-A changes? Because from what I've seen there are some translations of that Afterlife scan that implies a non-dimensional physiology, rather then just a place beyond whatever dimensions exist in the verse.

Is that scan even accepted to be worth anything or am I yapping.
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That scan’s never getting accepted on this site, lmao.
 
Killerdrone123 said:
but there is no temporal dimension which contains c.o.t you have to prove that first it is only referred as a space not space-time
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That's why I asked if time travel affects it or if time abilities work there, if either of those things do, then there's clearly time there
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
So how will the DBbros handle the 1-A changes? Because from what I've seen there are some translations of that Afterlife scan that implies a non-dimensional physiology, rather then just a place beyond whatever dimensions exist in the verse.

Is that scan even accepted to be worth anything or am I yapping.
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Afterlife is literally classified as a low 2c realm, no chance on hell it gets anything higher unless explicit proof is given
 
Why is it not accepted as a dimensionally higher realm, the two statements I read seemed pretty straightforward.
 
But does it even make sense that the world of the dead is a higher dimension, because it is located outside of the 4D Universe (I don't understand these things, but it would be timely if it were actually accepted here)
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
But does it even make sense that the world of the dead is a higher dimension, because it is located outside of the 4D Universe (I don't understand these things, but it would be timely if it were actually accepted here)
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Given the fact that heaven which is as big as living universe completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperbole
 
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Speaking of ToP. Do y'all think post-ToP Base Goku is pre-ToP SSB Goku level? Base Goku and Frieza late ToP is relative Android 17 who before ToP is SSB level. Since Android 17 has infinite stamina he should have the same AP.
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Given the fact that heaven which is as big as living universes completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperbole
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It would be so timely if this were accepted
 
Killerdrone123 said:
Given the fact that heaven which is as big as living universes completely disappears in its vastness and was stated to have no concept of time also a scan where it was called extradimensional space when goku was racing a kai on bike or smth I think it does but it would never be accepted here not to mention the fact you will get arguments like "it means higher dimension in geometric sense" or hyperbole
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bro heaven is NOT as big as living universes
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My knowledge over Dragon Ball is relatively limited, I watched the show back in 2020 or so, and never really touched on it again.

Calling these statements hyperbolic without a solid reason is obviously not an argument, I hope that's not the sole reason why these were not accepted. Eitherway, might be wrong, but Dragon Ball does separate the three layers of the Macrocosm with realms that don't have a concept of space, correct?
 
Ultima_Reality said:
"And this, itself, leads us to another possible counterpoint: The fact that a "lack" of dimensionality does not necessarily translate to superiority over dimensionality. That I refer to this as a fact should already inform the you that I don't disagree with this claim, and in fact it is objectively unrelated to this point, as we are talking about actual superiority over dimensionality, not simply an absence of it."
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Don't even try it.
 
When he fought her, he basically won by circumventing the kaioshin's predictions of time, demonstrating that having vision of the future doesn't work on him.


Wouldn't that give Goku some casualness?
 
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