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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Close this thread dammit the debates finally over Goku solos hes Omni everything meta potent he transcended transcending. The only person that can beat Goku is Goku himself though (Goku still solos)

Always bet on Hakari
 
RedReaper said:
Not really. Infinite Stamina can come as a result of Type 3, but it's not inherent. Even if it was, {Canon and Toei Canon} Goku would be the obvious exception, since while dead he has finite stamina. It's cost is merely just reduced, so he can fight longer and harder than, say, his normal self, but still will EVENTUALLY tire out in time. It's best considered as a stop gap, not an actual solution to that.

EDIT: I also want it to be noted that the inability to die is TOEI Canon, not main canon.
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I was talking about Universe Tree Goku for this one
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
What we should do is immeasurable speed for DB
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Why though? It's stated like crap tons of time in Daizenshuu, Chouzenshu, and even Shenron stated the Universe is infinite in size
 
i think i found every single piece of evidence that supports infinite db cosmology
The universe has nebulae containing countless stars, and galaxies containing countless nebulae. Earth resides in the Solar System, a galactic nebula at the edge of the edge of the north galaxy. It is also an infinite space that extends infinitely (Daizenshuu 4, page 44.). Stated to be an infinite space of light and darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 16.). Once again stated to be an infinite darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 17.). The living world is stated to be infinitely expansive (Daizenshuu 4, page 54.). The Universe is stated to be an endless expansive space (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). There an an infinite number of galaxies (Daizenshuu 4) Stated to be an endless expanse here ("This World" shows an endless expanse, you will find that the DB world holds a worldview with a tremendous scale beyond human understanding.") (Chozenshuu 4, page 34.). It is stated to contain infinite galaxies once again (Chozenshuu 4, page 49.). Shenron states the universe is a boundless expanse (Dragon Ball Super episode 12.). The Demon Realm is a dimension comparable in size to the universe and exits on its reverse side (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). Beerus' planet is across the universe (DBS episode 19.) and falling from it will lead you to another dimension (DBS episode 18.). The Namekians are from a different realm in the universe (Dragon Ball Super interval).
 
Infinite Universe can have finite matter but still had infinite volume and space. There's no such thing as the Center of the Universe
 
Robo432343 said:
i think i found every single piece of evidence that supports infinite db cosmology
The universe has nebulae containing countless stars, and galaxies containing countless nebulae. Earth resides in the Solar System, a galactic nebula at the edge of the edge of the north galaxy. It is also an infinite space that extends infinitely (Daizenshuu 4, page 44.). Stated to be an infinite space of light and darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 16.). Once again stated to be an infinite darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 17.). The living world is stated to be infinitely expansive (Daizenshuu 4, page 54.). The Universe is stated to be an endless expansive space (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). There an an infinite number of galaxies (Daizenshuu 4) Stated to be an endless expanse here ("This World" shows an endless expanse, you will find that the DB world holds a worldview with a tremendous scale beyond human understanding.") (Chozenshuu 4, page 34.). It is stated to contain infinite galaxies once again (Chozenshuu 4, page 49.). Shenron states the universe is a boundless expanse (Dragon Ball Super episode 12.). The Demon Realm is a dimension comparable in size to the universe and exits on its reverse side (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). Beerus' planet is across the universe (DBS episode 19.) and falling from it will lead you to another dimension (DBS episode 18.). The Namekians are from a different realm in the universe (Dragon Ball Super interval).
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I have all of this in my personal blog. I gathers crap tons of evidence for Infinite DB cosmology.
 
Spinoirr said:
Best you get is infinite

Take it or leave it
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Zeno's attack speed with his erase should be immeasurable, it crossed 2 time dimensions, which is one way to get it, also Zamasu grew from the future timeline to another timeline in the past (and not the direct past of future trunks either, obviously) Zeno's attack, which started on the future, still hit him on the past. It's accepted on the site that it travelled as well
 
Ednaxel2 said:
It doesn't matter this wiki doesn't accept crossing over timelines as a quantifiable speed feat
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That is for timeline separates by space, not time
time travel via speed is immeasurable speed, that's why arale has it. Zeno's attack started from the future and hit someone in the past,
 
You would have to eliminate all that nonsense about being poetry and such, I don't know how the team members accepted that

There was various evidence, from Dragon Ball GT, guides, and others.
 
NishizumiShiho said:
Why though? It's stated like crap tons of time in Daizenshuu, Chouzenshu, and even Shenron stated the Universe is infinite in size
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Because nobody knew how japanese worked, so when Executor debunked it having to be flowery it was already too late hence why you can see everyone call the op a coward at the end. (It’s everyone fault for taking too long to debunk the crt instead of last couple hours before grace) Although, one of them was poetic but that doesn’t mean it was not literal. Since its not uncommon to use poetry to talk about the universe since we don’t know a lot about it.
Now people attribute the actual Living Universe having an edge as the reason it’s not considered infinite, but that were the main arguments against it. Since the reason we couldn’t use edge refers to the light argument is because the statements themselves were considered not literal.
Robo432343 said:
i think i found every single piece of evidence that supports infinite db cosmology
The universe has nebulae containing countless stars, and galaxies containing countless nebulae. Earth resides in the Solar System, a galactic nebula at the edge of the edge of the north galaxy. It is also an infinite space that extends infinitely (Daizenshuu 4, page 44.). Stated to be an infinite space of light and darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 16.). Once again stated to be an infinite darkness (Daizenshuu 4, page 17.). The living world is stated to be infinitely expansive (Daizenshuu 4, page 54.). The Universe is stated to be an endless expansive space (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). There an an infinite number of galaxies (Daizenshuu 4) Stated to be an endless expanse here ("This World" shows an endless expanse, you will find that the DB world holds a worldview with a tremendous scale beyond human understanding.") (Chozenshuu 4, page 34.). It is stated to contain infinite galaxies once again (Chozenshuu 4, page 49.). Shenron states the universe is a boundless expanse (Dragon Ball Super episode 12.). The Demon Realm is a dimension comparable in size to the universe and exits on its reverse side (Daizenshuu 4, page 72.). Beerus' planet is across the universe (DBS episode 19.) and falling from it will lead you to another dimension (DBS episode 18.). The Namekians are from a different realm in the universe (Dragon Ball Super interval).
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Don’t matter ig
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
Because nobody knew how japanese worked, so when Executor debunked it having to be flowery it was already too late hence why you can see everyone call the op a coward at the end. (It’s everyone fault for taking too long to debunk the crt instead of last couple hours before grace) Although, one of them was poetic but that doesn’t mean it was not literal. Since its not uncommon to use poetry to talk about the universe since we don’t know a lot about it.
Now people attribute the actual Living Universe having an edge as the reason it’s not considered infinite, but that were the main arguments against it. Since the reason we couldn’t use edge refers to the light argument is because the statements themselves were considered not literal.

Don’t matter ig
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dw, we can change it
 
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