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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

Spinoirr said:


So cells base form can easily beat all the GoD all at once, while his UI can fight a Moro who won and absorbed all Universe 7 minus whis and even absorbed Super Shenron too

So what tier is his base form and UI?
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Baser on how it look? Probably 2-C but to unfathomable higher degree with Limited Low 1-C range.
 
NishizumiShiho said:
That's still different timeline completely
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Yes, but that different timeline cannot exist without altering the history of Trunks and Mai's original timeline. The two are not mutually exclusive, the the former requires the latter to even exist; creating a parallel world requires one to travel back in time and rewrite history.
 
If the arguement is a parallel timeline needs it OG timeline to exist after the divergence in time and events were made, I'm not entirely sure there is anything to support that. Because after the divergence it becomes its own thing, or else Zeno destroying the timeline explicitly in the manga would have also destroyed the main time line as a result since they are linked by Trunks changing time by going back to warn Goku and Co.

Divergences can happen for any given reason, so it's not unreasonable to say Trunks timelime got destroyed but there were still diverging timelines that happened for whatever reason before the events of the Goku Black arc that Trunks and Mai could be taken to.

I dunno, I'm not a timeline expert.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Yes, but that different timeline cannot exist without altering the history of Trunks and Mai's original timeline. The two are not mutually exclusive, the the former requires the latter to even exist; creating a parallel world requires one to travel back in time and rewrite history.
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Or is whis just built different to make a whole ass timeline 🤓
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
If the arguement is a parallel timeline needs it OG timeline to exist after the divergence in time and events were made, I'm not entirely sure there is anything to support that. Because after the divergence it becomes its own thing, or else Zeno destroying the timeline explicitly in the manga would have also destroyed the main time line as a result since they are linked by Trunks changing time by going back to warn Goku and Co.

Divergences can happen for any given reason, so it's not unreasonable to say Trunks timelime got destroyed but there were still diverging timelines that happened for whatever reason before the events of the Goku Black arc that Trunks and Mai could be taken to.

I dunno, I'm not a timeline expert.
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in braching timelines like this the destruction of the said branch wouldn't necessarily affect the "main" one unless the verse treats it that way

also no timeline expert, so won't comment much
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
If the arguement is a parallel timeline needs it OG timeline to exist after the divergence in time and events were made, I'm not entirely sure there is anything to support that. Because after the divergence it becomes its own thing, or else Zeno destroying the timeline explicitly in the manga would have also destroyed the main time line as a result since they are linked by Trunks changing time by going back to warn Goku and Co.

Divergences can happen for any given reason, so it's not unreasonable to say Trunks timelime got destroyed but there were still diverging timelines that happened for whatever reason before the events of the Goku Black arc that Trunks and Mai could be taken to.

I dunno, I'm not a timeline expert.
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It is stated no less than six times that traveling into and changing the past is what creates parallel worlds.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
It is stated no less than six times that traveling into and changing the past is what creates parallel worlds.
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You made your words bigger but you seemed to have not read my post lol.

With quote on quote countless divergences timelines, possibilities are nigh endless. So the requirement of traveling into the past being what creates a diverging timeline doesn't really disprove my point.

A timeline that diverged from Trunks' by someone traveling back into the past, one before the Goku Black arc, could feasibly exist.
 
What positive?

Diverging timelimes can still exist after the main one is destroyed. The one positive we do know is that, or else the main timeline would've been destroyed as a result of Zeno destroying Trunks' timelime.
 
Occam's razor.

We know rewriting history via time travel is how parallel worlds are created, and we know that Whis offered to help Future Trunks and Mai safely relocate into the past of their world. Ergo, the likeliest and simplest explantation is that they revisited their world, went back in time, thus rewriting history and creating a branching timeline. That is the only way said parallel world could be created based off of our available knowledge.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
Nah, I do Jujutsu Kaisen 'ish now.
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Nullflowerblush said:
Yes, but that different timeline cannot exist without altering the history of Trunks and Mai's original timeline. The two are not mutually exclusive, the the former requires the latter to even exist; creating a parallel world requires one to travel back in time and rewrite history.
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Yeah, which happens in both Anime and Manga, despite the entire Timeline having been even more explicitly busted via Time Ring visual.

But it also should be noted that Beerus created an alternate Timeline without any Time Travel shenanigans by attempting to break the loop, as well. As if he had not tried to kill Zamasu, no new Timeline would have been made there despite having had events already change from their “path” due to Trunks’ and Black’s interference with the past.

Edit: (Which imo lends credibility to his claim of Gods affecting Time differently from Mortals, which is touched on and confirmed in the Anime.)
 
Hasty12345 said:
I'm not a fan of downgrading my favorite verses, however, accuracy is more important than beliefs on this site
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Then make the CRT. Don't get it twisted, idgaf if it gets downgraded, but I don't want shit lingering around for people to one day pick up and use against us with accusations of wank.
 
RedReaper said:
But it also should be noted that Beerus created an alternate Timeline without any Time Travel shenanigans by attempting to break the loop, as well. As if he had not tried to kill Zamasu, no new Timeline would have been made there despite having had events already change from their “path” due to Trunks’ and Black’s interference with the past.
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Beerus ultimately erasing Present Zamasu is a direct consequence of Future Trunks traveling to the past and rewriting history.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
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Beerus ultimately erasing Present Zamasu is a direct consequence of Future Trunks traveling to the past and rewriting history.
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I’m not disagreeing, here, but the logic is time traveling in itself creates a branch.

However, it is noted that the “new branch” (in question) was only created when Beerus tried to snipe Zamasu from the past—This is explicitly noted. So if he literally didn’t do that, despite the time travel, that branch would not be created.

Thus, there is some extra circumstance going on that allows additional branch creation outside of the inherent one created by Time Travel.
 
Is there a thread where the Super Saiyan 2 multiplier got accepted? I found Grade 3 and SSG but nothing for SSJ2. And is there going to be planned re-calc of the BoG speed feat?
 
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