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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Hell will be infinite and Goku will have infinite speed, plus we can get other things besides that, hehehe
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I highly doubt that infinite speed will be accepted, when the infinite universe was first accepted, basically almost everyone on the staff agreed that infinite speed would be an outlier (from what I remember)

So making the universe infinite will only make verse lose several speed calculations and I don't see what concrete benefit it would give to verse, considering that we don't have 3-A characters (as far as I remember) and 2-C wouldn't be affected at all.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I highly doubt that infinite speed will be accepted, when the infinite universe was first accepted, basically almost everyone on the staff agreed that infinite speed would be an outlier (from what I remember)

So making the universe infinite will only make verse lose several speed calculations and I don't see what concrete benefit it would give to verse, considering that we don't have 3-A characters (as far as I remember) and 2-C wouldn't be affected at all.
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XXBenShapiroXx said:
Infinite speed is accepted in other circles but it'll prolly never be accepted here
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And basically everything else in the anime/manga is an anti-feat. Considering that the void is not accepted as infinite and Jiren overcoming time is through power not speed.

Since Luffy talked about Bleach. Bleach is basically just a single specific technique that reaches this speed and no one reacts/adapts to it, so it basically has no anti-feats.
 
Actually you can counter the outlier part since the whole premise was t.o.p having time but the thing is we have never shown or given how much time passes when top tiers fight remember the whole jiren vs goku fight happened in just 7 min so when they just stop fighting or talk will allow the flow of time to pass
 
Most verses have many forms of inconsistencies and PiS when it comes to speed (JJK and Black Flash has been a debacle for well over a year now) but canon Goku having infinite speed would make instant transmission redundant unless the plot double down's on Saiyans being unable to survive outer space which will lead to even more narrative inconsistencies and cause more holes in future debates.

Sometimes you gotta wait and see if it's consistent or not with future storytelling (also you'll likely enjoy it more if you turn off the battle-boarding brain rot, it helps temper expectations too).
 
StekFence said:
Also, I feel DB is about how goku constantly improves, which is kinda antithetical to the concept of literally having beyond finite speed
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That just the case with most verses not acknowledging the character not having infinite power, even though he has feats that take infinite power.
 
Quantu said:
He's 2-C, by definition he already has "infinite power" so saying his speed couldn't because infinite power makes no sense is odd.

Granted, I don't care for infinite speed DBS
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The only thing missing is infinite or immeasurable speed

For me I think of infinite power when it reaches 2-A where it can affect infinite Universes
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I don't know why you care so much about the universe being infinite or not.

The only thing that will happen when accepting this is that we will lose the calculation of the speed of that ball of universal energy and infinite speed will be treated as an outlier. Then there will be no benefit.
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Seems like a fair trade🧐
 
omegabronic said:
don't see how this matters to hell's size
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Don't quote me on this one, I haven't brushed on DB's cosmology in quite a good while, but I believe that Hell is shown and or stated to be bigger then Heaven according to the guidebooks and the map? Again it's been awhile, it's just the only thing I can think of when the question of Hell being infinite comes up if it's comparable to Heaven in size
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Don't quote me on this one, I haven't brushed on DB's cosmology in quite a good while, but I believe that Hell is shown and or stated to be bigger then Heaven according to the guidebooks and the map? Again it's been awhile, it's just the only thing I can think of when the question of Hell being infinite comes up if it's comparable to Heaven in size
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No, it's just that hell is part of the world of the dead, so if the Universe became infinite all dimensions would become infinite, just like the dimension of lights, the terror of some there, like kingdom of the Kaioshins
 
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The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Don't quote me on this one, I haven't brushed on DB's cosmology in quite a good while, but I believe that Hell is shown and or stated to be bigger then Heaven according to the guidebooks and the map? Again it's been awhile, it's just the only thing I can think of when the question of Hell being infinite comes up if it's comparable to Heaven in size
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Nah, the only place it is ever said to be bigger was in a tableboard USA game, so not really cannon
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
No, it's just that hell is part of the world of the dead, so if the Universe became infinite all dimensions would become infinite, just like the dimension of lights, the terror of some there, like kingdom of the Kaioshins
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It isn't, as yoy added in one your thread iirc, Hell is a different space time from the otherworld, so it isn't physically connected for the spatial size of one to matter for the other
 
omegabronic said:
It isn't, as yoy added in one your thread iirc, Hell is a different space time from the otherworld, so it isn't physically connected for the spatial size of one to matter for the other
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Another person told me that they are connected, the same person who answered that, at that time I was defending that.
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
Another person told me that they are connected, the same person who answered that, at that time I was defending that.
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i mean, if one wants to argue that they are physically connected they wouldn't be another space time, so.....yeah, if one wants to do use that to make Hell infinite, the space time part would also go, which would make it a nothing addition for what @Phsccarvalho said
 
We already get Immeasurable DBH anyway, that alone already good enough for me. Higher than Massively FTL+ in here for DBS wouldn't get accepted at all.

Since this sites has strange rule that prevent us to upgrade DBS in significant way, but I degrees.
 
NishizumiShiho said:
Since this sites has strange rule that prevent us to upgrade DBS in significant way, but I degrees.
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Discussion thread rules page:

"Do not attempt to downgrade Goku from 2-C with the argument that he didn't maintain the power of Super Saiyan God; the evidence makes clear that he did, and downgrade attempts have been repeatedly rejected."
 
NishizumiShiho said:
We already get Immeasurable DBH anyway, that alone already good enough for me. Higher than Massively FTL+ in here for DBS wouldn't get accepted at all.

Since this sites has strange rule that prevent us to upgrade DBS in significant way, but I degrees.
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Soon we will do calculations to infinity, Dragon Ball has reached its maximum speed above light.
 
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