All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I genuine believe that, with some exceptions to decent episodes, one should start watching DBS at the start of the U6 arc and beyond because the animation for earlier episodes were complete and total TRASH. And what makes all the more egregious to me is that as far as I have been told the reasoning for the first two arcs of Super having such dog shit animation at times is due to severe crunching that was forced upon the animators, some of whom IIRC were new to animating Dragon Ball and anime as a whole, though I think the crunch was lessened a smidge by the time the U6 arc began.

Honestly the earlier episodes of Super are the reason why I prefer it when new DB media come out every few years as opposed to annually, not only giving them more time to brainstorm ideas and finetuning these new media but also because the people working on DB don't have to go through that crunch and can take their time if necessary. It's why I'm kind of apprehensive over the idea of DB returning back to annual releases in the future, both in concerns to the quality of new media but also the people working with DB

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I hope Daima doesn't make this mistake, I didn't know that Frieza wore purple shoes, lol

The animation for the trailer was fire tbh

Also, it will probably have a similar animation to DBS Broly

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The animation for the trailer was fire tbh

Also, it will probably have a similar animation to DBS Broly

That would be good

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Honestly the earlier episodes of Super are the reason why I prefer it when new DB media come out every few years as opposed to annually,

I'm not worried about the animation thing. These DBS errors happened 9 years ago and it was only at the beginning of DBS.

Then what did we have? This here.


People love putting up these stills from the beginning of DBS to talk about how bad the whole thing was. But no one talks much about how everything has improved over the years.

TOEI itself improved, improving One Piece, improving Dragon Quest, etc.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

I'm not worried about the animation thing. These DBS errors happened 9 years ago and it was only at the beginning of DBS.

Then what did we have? This here.


People love putting up these stills from the beginning of DBS to talk about how bad the whole thing was. But no one talks much about how everything has improved over the years.

I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not judging DBS' animation as a whole from those stilts of earlier episodes, I would be completely unfair to acknowledge that the animation did improve substantially and by the ToP ended it was absolutely godlike. What I'm trying to say, however, is that those early episodes turned out the way they did because of crunch on the animators and it showed in the final production that they weren't given enough time.

Obviously digital animation has immensely advanced over the last couple years and that may no longer happen in the future for DB, but I'd rather see the animators be given 2-3 years to whip up something special as opposed to every year you know? I don't want them to go through crunch to get out more DB content

 

[Sparkive]

Also, if I remember correctly, Toei brought forward the premiere of Super a week ahead of schedule

 

[TiltedFN]

Other verse whataboutism isn't helping, Androids are not getting infinite speed based soley of infinite energy because they don't have infinite in-verse AP and have speed relative to characters with finite Ki

DBS is either MFTL+ or Immeasurable through Hit shenanigans (pretty sure it's treated as an outlier currently), but infinite speed comes from nowhere especially with non-infinite universes

I will always stand by that goku moved into the future with hit

 

[SirAlex09]

Type #bleachscaling in twitter and get amused. Naruto fans are trolling Bleach fans Lmfao

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Type #bleachscaling in twitter and get amused. Naruto fans are trolling Bleach fans Lmfao

Normally Bleach fans are quite aggressive, but are they letting this happen to them?

 

[Prime2024]

I have an important question (well it's important for me at least) did anyone read the novel version of DBS super hero ?

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Ain't Saitama Galaxy level?
He beats all of Z and gets violated in Super

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I have an important question (well it's important for me at least) did anyone read the novel version of DBS super hero ?

Yes, I have it here! About the black hole created by Cell?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Ain't Saitama Galaxy level?
He beats all of Z and gets violated in Super

In Dragon Ball Z, Saitama takes a pretty big beating, the Toei characters from Z are mercilessly obliterated Saitama

 

[Quantu]

In Dragon Ball Z, Saitama takes a pretty big beating, the Toei characters from Z are mercilessly obliterated Saitama, as for Super, you're kidding me, right?

She means he gets stomped by Super characters

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

She means he gets stomped by Super characters

Like this

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

In Dragon Ball Z, Saitama takes a pretty big beating, the Toei characters from Z are mercilessly obliterated Saitama

Idc about non-canon.
Manga Z gets f*cked

 

[Prime2024]

Yes, I have it here! About the black hole created by Cell?

Yes it's about the Black hole thing and I also want to know if the events of the novel are the exact same as the movie

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Idc about non-canon.
Manga Z gets f*cked

Calm down, there's no need to be aggressive with your little brother, right?

We all love each other and live for DB

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yes it's about the Black hole thing and I also want to know if the events of the novel are the exact same as the movie

Yes, the novels are extremely faithful to the work and present more things and explanations.

 

[Prime2024]

Yes, the novels are extremely faithful to the work and present more things and explanations.

Do you know where I can read it ? (For free of course)

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Do you know where I can read it ? (For free of course)

I have DBS Broly and DBSB here with me, but it's in Japanese if you want, I'll send you a message and you can get it.

 

[Prime2024]

I have DBS Broly and DBSB here with me, but it's in Japanese if you want, I'll send you a message and you can get it.

Sure

 

[Prime2024]

Good I'm thinking of upgrading Cell max (and anyone who scales above him) lifting strength due to the fact that he can lift a black hole

 

[StekFence]

Wouldn’t you have to prove it’s a real black hole?

 

[StekFence]

Tbh, I skipped the Bog and RoF arcs, and just watched the movies. It was faster and generally prettier

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

But no one talks much about how everything has improved over the years.

TOEI itself improved, improving One Piece, improving Dragon Quest, etc.

To hell with that, Toei deserves to be chastised relentlessly for how badly Dragon Ball is animated now compared with the good old days!

Oh wait, this isn't Super...

 

[Prime2024]

Wouldn’t you have to prove it’s a real black hole?

It doesn't act exactly like a real one but it still has the same potency as a real black hole

 

[StekFence]

If it actually had the mass of one, wouldn’t the world have ended?

 

[Prime2024]

If it actually had the mass of one, wouldn’t the world have ended?

Ki control exist for a reason, Cell max despite the fact he was mindless except he still has shown Great level of ki control

 

[StekFence]

Huh, gravity control

 

[SirAlex09]

Good I'm thinking of upgrading Cell max (and anyone who scales above him) lifting strength due to the fact that he can lift a black hole

hahahhahaha good luck. You might as well try to become Super Saiyan first. I think that might be the easier task

 

[SirAlex09]

TOEI itself improved, improving One Piece, improving Dragon Quest, etc.

Seeing how Demon Slayer made tons of money with mediocre story but a great anime, Toei/Shueisha could make tons of cash if they put more ressources into the Dragonball anime.

They could make it seasonal and keep switching it between One Piece and Dragonball so they don't have to share ressources

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Good I'm thinking of upgrading Cell max (and anyone who scales above him) lifting strength due to the fact that he can lift a black hole

It's not a black hole, I'll tell you that much.
I've already seen this statement and it doesn't mention it at all.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

They could make it seasonal and keep switching it between One Piece and Dragonball so they don't have to share ressources

In addition to Toei being a gigantic company, Dragon Ball has had its own division within Toei since 2018.

So there is no such thing as "splitting resources".

Seriously, in 2021 TOEI was simultaneously making
"TV: World Trigger, One Piece, Precure, Digimon, Dai.
Movies: Digimon, Digimon 02, Dragon Ball Super, Precure"

And did we have bad animation in Super Hero? No.

 

[TiltedFN]

Ain't Saitama Galaxy level?
He beats all of Z and gets violated in Super

saitama isn't getting past buu

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

saitama isn't getting past buu

I'm talking canon, keep your Toeiverse to yourself.

Z Buu ain't even 4-A. (Manga)

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Does anyone ever tried to argue here that Buu Saga´s genkidama (Manga) took energy from the entire universe?

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Does anyone ever tried to argue here that Buu Saga´s genkidama (Manga) took energy from the entire universe?

One maybe two guidebooks say so, 99% of all guidebooks say it's from Earth+Z Warriors.
We see Goku asking for the energy of Earth exclusively. At no point he asks for the energy of the Universe.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I'm surprised we are still throwing around the term canon. Kinda annoying instead of just saying anime or manga

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I'm surprised we are still throwing around the term canon.

We're not getting into "both are equally canon" territory because they share a multiverse, I'm talking about the original story/manga which is not related to the Anime.