Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

[Phsccarvalho]

which, like, honestly should look like:

but that's just my opinion.

based

 

[Jaakor48]

Grade 1 = Grade 4

I see
So grade 3 =10x grade 4 in AP

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Thaaat would be rejecting the Grade 3 multiplier, do you disagree with Cell's powerhouse being the same as Grade 3?

I disagree with using the El Manga Legendario's assertion over how the form is depicted in-universe or over the Super Exciting Guide.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I disagree with using the El Manga Legendario's assertion over how the form is depicted in-universe or over the Super Exciting Guide.

Can you elaborate on how either of these contradict the assertion of the Spanish guide?

 

[Tipper17]

It brought it back when the only thing keeping the franchise alive were the games

Ehhhh not to say TFS didn't help keep things afloat but nah

 

[RedReaper616]

Can you elaborate on how either of these contradict the assertion of the Spanish guide?

The Spanish Guide asserts that the Grade 3 form is a 10x multiplier, and that (in another instance) SSJ2 is > SSJ Grade 3–But it doesn’t give a number.

At least, from what I recall.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Can you elaborate on how either of these contradict the assertion of the Spanish guide?

The thread wherein the multiplier was accepted is devoid of sufficient evidence supporting its notion. Nothing in the original series implies that the difference between Second and Third Grade was a difference of ten-times; a stomp can be achieved by a difference of less than two-times, as proven by Nappa, and Kaio-ken x3 Goku, Vegeta in the Namek Saga. The only evidence presented was that Trunks was now stronger than Perfect Cell, that was now stronger than Vegeta.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

I just had a wild idea, and I want to know if it's been attempted before. So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right? Since he could reach 2-C via evolution, could we argue that Goku should be "possibly tier 1 through reactive evolution" (you know, since he evolves at uncountably infinite rates)?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I just had a wild idea, and I want to know if it's been attempted before. So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right? Since he could reach 2-C via evolution, could we argue that Goku should be "possibly tier 1 through reactive evolution" (you know, since he evolves at uncountably infinite rates)?

In truth no.

 

[Killerdrone123]

I just had a wild idea, and I want to know if it's been attempted before. So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right? Since he could reach 2-C via evolution, could we argue that Goku should be "possibly tier 1 through reactive evolution" (you know, since he evolves at uncountably infinite rates)?

Wouldn't it be NLF to assume that

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

I just had a wild idea, and I want to know if it's been attempted before. So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right?

We does? I thought we only accepted it because he somehow learned how to control God Ki and made it part of his normal form (aka Saiyan beyond God)

Since he could reach 2-C via evolution, could we argue that Goku should be "possibly tier 1 through reactive evolution" (you know, since he evolves at uncountably infinite rates)?

Like @Killerdrone123 said, it would fall under NLF

Also, we can´t increase Goku´s 2-C rating to more universes even with his reactive evolution, so i don´t see why this would be different

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

While I see nothing wrong with using x10 Grade 3 multiplier, didn't find the reason against it particularly strong, I also don't really care since it's not a huge thing into the long run.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I just had a wild idea, and I want to know if it's been attempted before. So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right? Since he could reach 2-C via evolution, could we argue that Goku should be "possibly tier 1 through reactive evolution" (you know, since he evolves at uncountably infinite rates)?

That would be quite interesting.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

After rewatching the Dragon Ball Daima trailer, I'm 90% sure this is actually a Dragon Quest game in disguise kek!

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

So we accept that in Battle of Gods, Goku retained the power of a super saiyan god through accelerated development, right?

We don't

Energy/Ki Absorption (Can absorb Ki through Spirit Bomb,[29] absorbed God Ki into his base,[30] and then during the Tournament of Power saga, he absorbed the energy of the Spirit Bomb and used it as a temporary energy battery to fight[31])

Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (As a Super Saiyan God, fought with a suppressed Beerus, and their clash both shook and was about to destroy the universe from its edge. Absorbed Super Saiyan God's power and became even stronger. Managed to overcome Beerus' energy nullification as a Super Saiyan, which easily nullified energy capable of destroying the universe. Destroyed a superior amount of energy that was going to destroy the universe with a single punch in his base form, which consists of 3 space-time continuums)

 

[NishizumiShiho]

After rewatching the Dragon Ball Daima trailer, I'm 90% sure this is actually a Dragon Quest game in disguise kek!

Imagine if Goku actually meet Dragon Quest cast XD

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Imagine if Goku actually meet Dragon Quest cast XD

Funny enough I don't see why not, I believe Arale met them already.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Funny enough I don't see why not, I believe Arale met them already.

Yes, she did:

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Am i the only one who is still surprised that Buu is still 4-B he should be at least 4-A likely 3-B imo. I hope Daima gives the buu saga better feats because it’s clear the buu saga plays an important role in Daima.

 

[omegabronic]

Am i the only one who is still surprised that Buu is still 4-B he should be at least 4-A likely 3-B imo. I hope Daima gives the buu saga better feats because it’s clear the buu saga plays an important role in Daima.

What makes that clear?

 

[ChoursDropoff]

What makes that clear?

A lot of statements that say he’s gonna destroy the universe over time.

 

[omegabronic]

A lot of statements that say he’s gonna destroy the universe over time.

I mean the "its clear that the buu saga plays an important role in daima" part, what does could possibly make that so clear? I don't see it

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

A lot of statements that say he’s gonna destroy the universe over time.

You can destroy the universe overtime even with High 4-C power

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Am i the only one who is still surprised that Buu is still 4-B he should be at least 4-A likely 3-B imo. I hope Daima gives the buu saga better feats because it’s clear the buu saga plays an important role in Daima.

I also agree with this, when Dragon Ball Daima comes out and shows Majin Buu destroying the galaxies I will update Majin Buu to tier 3

 

[ChoursDropoff]

I mean the "its clear that the buu saga plays an important role in daima" part, what does could possibly make that so clear? I don't see it

The first trailer shows all the scenes in the buu saga reanimated. Like literally every single scene. I doubt they’d go through all that trouble to reanimate the series just to make it a one off thing.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

You can destroy the universe overtime even with High 4-C power

I mean he’d die before that gets done since he lost immortality type 1

 

[omegabronic]

The first trailer shows all the scenes in the buu saga reanimated. Like literally every single scene. I doubt they’d go through all that trouble to reanimate the series just to make it a one off thing.

Hmmmm? All the scenes from the buu saga? Show me that please?

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

I mean he’d die before that gets done since he lost immortality type 1

We don't know that, actually. Since we can't estimate a his life span, and since he wants to destroy all life on the universe, not every single celestial body.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

We don't know that, actually. Since we can't estimate a his life span, and since he wants to destroy all life on the universe, not every single celestial body.

Nah he definitely doesn’t care if they’re life on the planet. It’s totally in character for him to just destroy anything regardless of their being life on the planet or not. And even then just saying he’s gonna life wipe the universe is kinda vague. Considering we don’t know where all this life is located. It could be in the same solar system or in different galaxies all together regardless he’d still have to destroy a lot of stuff before life wiping.

 

[The_Yellow_Topaz]

Nah he definitely doesn’t care if they’re life on the planet. It’s totally in character for him to just destroy anything regardless of their being life on the planet or not. And even then just saying he’s gonna life wipe the universe is kinda vague. Considering we don’t know where all this life is located. It could be in the same solar system or in different galaxies all together regardless he’d still have to destroy a lot of stuff before life wiping.

Bro, this isn't an opinion, this is a fact stated in the Super Exciting Guide, Buu is a threat to all the life in the universe, bro has no interest in destroying all the celestial bodies.

 

[ProudLearner]

Do the Shadow Dragons have Chaos Manipulation?

Elder Kai said over using the dragon ball can bring about disorder to nature. Also, he said that he can't go to Earth because it is isolated from the outer realm.

 

[Prime2024]

 

[Ednaxel2]

It shouldn't go this hard but damn

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Damn, this is old...

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Do the Shadow Dragons have Chaos Manipulation?

Elder Kai said over using the dragon ball can bring about disorder to nature. Also, he said that he can't go to Earth because it is isolated from the outer realm.

Not for now

 

[Jaakor48]

Is the statement of king kai's place being 26 mins away from Beerus' planet still legit?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Is the statement of king kai's place being 26 mins away from Beerus' planet still legit?

I think it's only in the film, in the anime I don't remember it, but you can take a look

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Bro is comparing DB to Pulp Fiction, lol

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Not necessarily a translation error.
銀河全部 = "all galaxies"... hence "cosmos". Less accurate, though.

So evil dragons destroyed a parallel Dragon Ball universe?

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Bro, this isn't an opinion, this is a fact stated in the Super Exciting Guide, Buu is a threat to all the life in the universe, bro has no interest in destroying all the celestial bodies.

Even then you’re assuming he knows where all the life in the universe is though. “He doesn’t” meaning he’d still have to go looking for all the life in the universe. And even then if he destroyed the universe then he’s still a threat to all life these things aren’t mutually exclusive. You’re assuming he knows where to go looking he doesn’t.