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The quality will be as bad as Edens Zero when it was worked on by JC Staff except that the work on the Fairy anime was long before One Punch ManExcited about the new fairy tail anime?
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The quality will be as bad as Edens Zero when it was worked on by JC Staff except that the work on the Fairy anime was long before One Punch ManExcited about the new fairy tail anime?
So the animation will be bad?The quality will be as bad as Edens Zero when it was worked on by JC Staff except that the work on the Fairy anime was long before One Punch Man
It depends, if the anime has been working for a long time, maybe there is hope that the Fairy Tail anime will have the same good quality as BleachSo the animation will be bad?
I hope it's better quality, i don't want to see mistakes in this last seasonIt depends, if the anime has been working for a long time, maybe there is hope that the Fairy Tail anime will have the same good quality as Bleach
I don’t think the implication was that they were related, just that the he looked like her past lover, as like a joke, there are other characters that look like him the verse that aren’t related to him as well so it’s only that way if you want it to be in all honesty.Wow the heartfillia family is really into incest lol
I was joking, you didn't have to try and debunk the heartfillia incest hypothesis.I don’t think the implication was that they were related, just that the he looked like her past lover, as like a joke, there are other characters that look like him the verse that aren’t related to him as well so it’s only that way if you want it to be in all honesty.
Also Jude isn’t related to Layla, he took her last name because she’s from a family that actually mattered, he was just some merchant.
Oh my bad I’ve been seeing people like yap about this all across Reddit and stuffI was joking, you didn't have to try and debunk the heartfillia incest hypothesis.
Yes Zeref can defeat the dragon gods.I just do think it’s funny how all of a sudden, a bunch of people been acting like Zeref can beat the Dragon Gods, when he can’t even beat Natsu…
Except Zeref did want to kill Natsu after he acquired Fairy Heart… He punched a hole through his heart and said “I hope you meet Makarov in heaven”Yes Zeref can defeat the dragon gods.
Even base status is enough for most dragon gods
As for the reason why he lost to Natsu, Zeref didn't just want to win because he didn't want to kill his brother and end this world he lived in with Mavis. Zeref told Natsu more than once that he had to die and that he wanted to die.
If Zeref really wanted to win he would have walked through the neo eclipse door without even looking back and this would have been fairy tail's mashima and the dragon gods you exaggerate are nothing but victims of Zeref.
Where was it stated that this is a general all dragon slayer magic thing?The sheer faith you have in Zeref when we know raw power from Dragon Slayer Magic can nullify hax is just baffling to me…
After Zeref took the fairy heart, yes, he wanted to "supposedly" kill Natsu for a moment. We both know that Zeref has full control over time. He may have predicted Natsu's return and made such a move. This is not a bloodthirsty situation.Except Zeref did want to kill Natsu after he acquired Fairy Heart… He punched a hole through his heart and said “I hope you meet Makarov in heaven”
Dude was full on bloodlusted at that point. He put all his power into his attack and lost to Natsu… And to claim Dragon Gods are Zeref victims is hilarious when Zeref’s scaling comes from the Dragon Gods… I’m not necessarily saying they could kill him, but if even Natsu can negate Fairy Heart and incapacitate Zeref, then I absolutely believe the Dragon Gods can… As for Base Zeref, dude was shittin his pants because Pre-SBT Acnologia was so strong, he’d never win against him normally…
The sheer faith you have in Zeref when we know raw power from Dragon Slayer Magic can nullify hax is just baffling to me…
That’s not true… like he’s definitely a god tier and I’d say he is able to beat most of the dragon gods but he’s still weaker than Acnologia it’s simply a matter of compatibilityHe is the best character drawn by Hiro Mashima and thestrongest.
bruh. Zeref literally pierced his heart and then intended to pass through the guild gate. Zeref's control over time does not mean that he will be aware of things that will happen in the future, even the "control" issue here is a statement made entirely in reference to his resurrection.After Zeref took the fairy heart, yes, he wanted to "supposedly" kill Natsu for a moment. We both know that Zeref has full control over time. He may have predicted Natsu's return and made such a move. This is not a bloodthirsty situation.
He did everything I said but failed. Before and after the resurrection, Natsu crushed him absolutely. He could match Natsu before his resurrection, but Natsu after was definitely superior.If Zeref was really bloodthirsty, he would have entered neo eclipse as soon as he killed Natsu, without even looking back (Zeref looked back and entered the war with Natsu again) and if he had entered neo eclipse, ez gg wp
What does this have to do with..? Zeref's "infinite magic power" is nothing but an infinite pool of energyYou contradict yourself about spending all your power in a single attack. Zeref is a character with an infinite source of magic power. If you think that he releases all the infinite magic power in his infinite magic power source, why don't you treat Zeref as h3a? Don't contradict yourself. Additionally, even 0.1% of infinity is infinity.
This happened because Anksheram was Aldaron's counter. Still superior to Zeref in terms of stats (Aldaron and others)Yes, Zeref can defeat most of the god dragons with his base form, because we have seen how even Anksheram in Zeref's base form can defeat Aldoron? aldoron > merc
This is more about speed, but I don't think Base Zeref can keep up with Selene. Anksheram is not passive, it depends on Zeref's speed, so this power is not very effective (unless we do speed equalization)So just from this we can get base zeref > aldoron > merc
Additionally, regarding Selene, she is not a strong enough character to resist the death predation in Base Zeref's Anksheram.
Even if you say things like base Zeref > Selene from here and the range difference, I think Fairy Heart Zeref has a universal range of time spells and can beat Selene.
There's a lot to learn about Ignia, but she's way above Selene, and probably Natsun too. Honestly, I think EoS Ignia will be top 3 in the seriesIgnia is completely featless so I don't even need to comment.
this is unclear, it is unclear whether Zeref surpasses FH after obtaining itI also disagree with the issue of acnologia before Base Zeref SBT. You are talking about Powernull, but Powernull is something that can be passed with high AP and you almost said above that Zeref is H3A lol. Most of the dragon gods are sacrificing against Zeref, you don't need to exaggerate the power system just because it progressed rapidly, more or less they are still sacrificing Zeref.
Natsu >> Zeref. In a 1 on 1 battle, Natsu has always crushed Zeref. Natsu vs Base Zeref, Natsu vs Zeref before Resurrection, Natsu vs Zeref after Resurrection... Natsu has an incredible advantage in each of them. Of course, since Zeref's almost only chance in battle is his immortality. (Anksheram also has it, but Natsu did not work on it) Natsu could never defeat him. Even though it is superiorEncouraging and neutralizing Zeref is something only Natsu can do. Zeref really loves Natsu, he is his precious brother and he fell into the Anksheram curse for him. You underestimate Zeref too much. He is the best character drawn by Hiro Mashima and thestrongest.
You are just debunking what the Writer himself said and what Wiki acceptsAfter Zeref took the fairy heart, yes, he wanted to "supposedly" kill Natsu for a moment. We both know that Zeref has full control over time. He may have predicted Natsu's return and made such a move. This is not a bloodthirsty situation.
If Zeref was really bloodthirsty, he would have entered neo eclipse as soon as he killed Natsu, without even looking back (Zeref looked back and entered the war with Natsu again) and if he had entered neo eclipse, ez gg wp
You contradict yourself about spending all your power in a single attack. Zeref is a character with an infinite source of magic power. If you think that he releases all the infinite magic power in his infinite magic power source, why don't you treat Zeref as h3a? Don't contradict yourself. Additionally, even 0.1% of infinity is infinity.
Yes, Zeref can defeat most of the god dragons with his base form, because we have seen how even Anksheram in Zeref's base form can defeat Aldoron? aldoron > merc
So just from this we can get base zeref > aldoron > merc
Additionally, regarding Selene, she is not a strong enough character to resist the death predation in Base Zeref's Anksheram.
Even if you say things like base Zeref > Selene from here and the range difference, I think Fairy Heart Zeref has a universal range of time spells and can beat Selene.
Ignia is completely featless so I don't even need to comment.
I also disagree with the issue of acnologia before Base Zeref SBT. You are talking about Powernull, but Powernull is something that can be passed with high AP and you almost said above that Zeref is H3A lol. Most of the dragon gods are sacrificing against Zeref, you don't need to exaggerate the power system just because it progressed rapidly, more or less they are still sacrificing Zeref.
Encouraging and neutralizing Zeref is something only Natsu can do. Zeref really loves Natsu, he is his precious brother and he fell into the Anksheram curse for him. You underestimate Zeref too much. He is the best character drawn by Hiro Mashima and thestrongest.
Except he wanted to kill Natsu before he did Neo Eclipse, this is verbatim in character… He said he wanted to settle things with Natsu firstAfter Zeref took the fairy heart, yes, he wanted to "supposedly" kill Natsu for a moment. We both know that Zeref has full control over time. He may have predicted Natsu's return and made such a move. This is not a bloodthirsty situation.
If Zeref was really bloodthirsty, he would have entered neo eclipse as soon as he killed Natsu, without even looking back (Zeref looked back and entered the war with Natsu again) and if he had entered neo eclipse, ez gg wp
Zeref went all out… He had an entire speech leading up to Dark Blast Inferno about all his anger and darkness being used. And he doesn’t have infinite AP, just because he never run out of Magic Power doesn’t mean he’s outputting infinity at once…You contradict yourself about spending all your power in a single attack. Zeref is a character with an infinite source of magic power. If you think that he releases all the infinite magic power in his infinite magic power source, why don't you treat Zeref as h3a? Don't contradict yourself. Additionally, even 0.1% of infinity is infinity.
If anything, that’s because Ankhseram Black Magic directly counters Nature, which is what Aldoron is, and even then, it only took part of him. Just because Base Zeref can hurt a part of Aldoron doesn’t mean he can beat all Dragon Gods… Especially when Base Zeref himself said he is incapable of beating Pre-SBT Acnologia no matter what he does.Yes, Zeref can defeat most of the god dragons with his base form, because we have seen how even Anksheram in Zeref's base form can defeat Aldoron? aldoron > merc
No, just blatantly wrong on so many levels. First of all, all the 5 Dragon Gods are stated to all be equals, so the fact you say Aldoron>Mercphobia is ridiculousSo just from this we can get base zeref > aldoron > merc
Not even an argument about anythingAdditionally, regarding Selene, she is not a strong enough character to resist the death predation in Base Zeref's Anksheram.
Even if you say things like base Zeref > Selene from here and the range difference, I think Fairy Heart Zeref has a universal range of time spells and can beat Selene.
Except the Dragon Gods are equal to an Acnologia that is flat out stated to have more power than ZerefIgnia is completely featless so I don't even need to comment.
I also disagree with the issue of acnologia before Base Zeref SBT. You are talking about Powernull, but Powernull is something that can be passed with high AP and you almost said above that Zeref is H3A lol. Most of the dragon gods are sacrificing against Zeref, you don't need to exaggerate the power system just because it progressed rapidly, more or less they are still sacrificing Zeref.
Except Zeref went all out and did lose to Natsu… He was very much trying to kill Natsu at that point and Natsu’s raw power overwhelmed Fairy Heart and destroyed it completely, leaving Zeref crippled on the ground…Encouraging and neutralizing Zeref is something only Natsu can do. Zeref really loves Natsu, he is his precious brother and he fell into the Anksheram curse for him. You underestimate Zeref too much. He is the best character drawn by Hiro Mashima and thestrongest.
Zeref's priority was to die, he himself stated this in many places. The simplest example is that when he was neutralized by Natsu, he thought he was going to die and smiled,But when you remember that you are immortal, you say, "That's right, I can never die." Even from here you can understand that he is interested in dying. If his aim was to win, he would have walked through that door. And what does the resurrection have to do with controlling time? Zeref himself said that after obtaining the Fairy Heart, he completely controlled space and time and transcended time,And when Natsu made his first attack on Zeref, he turned back time.bruh. Zeref literally pierced his heart and then intended to pass through the guild gate. Zeref's control over time does not mean that he will be aware of things that will happen in the future, even the "control" issue here is a statement made entirely in reference to his resurrection.
A simple plot armor Zeref was not bloodthirsty in that war, we understand this from the fact that he thought he was dead and was happy and did not go through the door.He did everything I said but failed. Before and after the resurrection, Natsu crushed him absolutely. He could match Natsu before his resurrection, but Natsu after was definitely superior.
"infinite magical power" What do you understand from here? Mavis also has additional statements on this subject.What does this have to do with..? Zeref's "infinite magic power" is nothing but an infinite pool of energy
Anksheram is uncontrollable as long as there is an emotional explosion. If Zeref experiences this, Selene has no chance. Zeref is superior in other abilities, to put it simply, immortality type 8.This is more about speed, but I don't think Base Zeref can keep up with Selene. Anksheram is not passive, it depends on Zeref's speed, so this power is not very effective (unless we do speed equalization)
Your thoughts don't mean anything, we don't have any information about it yet.There's a lot to learn about Ignia, but she's way above Selene, and probably Natsun too. Honestly, I think EoS Ignia will be top 3 in the series
It's said about 2 or 3 times in this seriesthis is unclear, it is unclear whether Zeref surpasses FH after obtaining it
"igneel give me more power" Is this how Natsu defeated Zeref lol Don't be ridiculous, Zeref said the following sentence in the first battle "Please kill me right now" and in the second battle we clearly see his desire to die. Zeref, the creator of Natsu, his first purpose was never to kill him, but to die.Natsu >> Zeref. In a 1 on 1 battle, Natsu has always crushed Zeref. Natsu vs Base Zeref, Natsu vs Zeref before Resurrection, Natsu vs Zeref after Resurrection... Natsu has an incredible advantage in each of them. Of course, since Zeref's almost only chance in battle is his immortality. (Anksheram also has it, but Natsu did not work on it) Natsu could never defeat him. Even though it is superior
He still could have killed natsu before he did the NeoEclipse and if it wasn't for lucy this war would have been over already. Zeref is a character who lost because of the plot armor Mashima gave to the shitty natsu. If Zeref was really bloodthirsty, he would have passed through the neo eclipse door and finished this job, if he looked at it with the logic that winning is everything, he would have already won.Except he wanted to kill Natsu before he did Neo Eclipse, this is verbatim in character… He said he wanted to settle things with Natsu first
Zeref went all out… He had an entire speech leading up to Dark Blast Inferno about all his anger and darkness being used. And he doesn’t have infinite AP, just because he never run out of Magic Power doesn’t mean he’s outputting infinity at once…
If anything, that’s because Ankhseram Black Magic directly counters Nature, which is what Aldoron is, and even then, it only took part of him. Just because Base Zeref can hurt a part of Aldoron doesn’t mean he can beat all Dragon Gods… Especially when Base Zeref himself said he is incapable of beating Pre-SBT Acnologia no matter what he does.
No, just blatantly wrong on so many levels. First of all, all the 5 Dragon Gods are stated to all be equals, so the fact you say Aldoron>Mercphobia is ridiculous
Not even an argument about anything
Except the Dragon Gods are equal to an Acnologia that is flat out stated to have more power than Zeref
Except Zeref went all out and did lose to Natsu… He was very much trying to kill Natsu at that point and Natsu’s raw power overwhelmed Fairy Heart and destroyed it completely, leaving Zeref crippled on the ground…
Lol The author said this, didn't he. You must be assuming he said "Dragon gods crush zeref" (your fake author not mashima)You are just debunking what the Writer himself said and what Wiki accepts
There is no way selene can stop zeref, she can't pass zeref's regeneration anyway death hax ez.Anksheram is uncontrollable as long as there is an emotional explosion. If Zeref experiences this, Selene has no chance. Zeref is superior in other abilities, to put it simply, immortality type 8.
Omw to remove Low 2-C Neo Eclipse right nowCan't wait for Mitch and Clover to downgrade Zeref just because of the emo death magic simps.
Blud's about to scale below SimonOmw to remove Low 2-C Neo Eclipse right now
I don't know if you've read Fairy Tail, but Zeref literally desired to obtain the Fairy Heart and pass through the door. The nonsense that Zeref was knowingly killed by Natsu or that he didn't fight with all his strength, etc. are all your baseless claims. Zeref thought that he wanted to kill Natsu with all his might and sent him to Makarov, but Natsu came back and kicked his ass, that's the whole story.Zeref's priority was to die, he himself stated this in many places. The simplest example is that when he was neutralized by Natsu, he thought he was going to die and smiled,But when you remember that you are immortal, you say, "That's right, I can never die." Even from here you can understand that he is interested in dying. If his aim was to win, he would have walked through that door. And what does the resurrection have to do with controlling time? Zeref himself said that after obtaining the Fairy Heart, he completely controlled space and time and transcended time,And when Natsu made his first attack on Zeref, he turned back time.
No, he was bloodthirsty and wanted to pass through the gate, this is evident even from his facial expressions... His only purpose was to pass through the guild gate and fight against pre SBT Acnologia in his next life (along with Natsu, btw the reason I say pre SBT is because Zeref never knew Acno's SBT form )A simple plot armor Zeref was not bloodthirsty in that war, we understand this from the fact that he thought he was dead and was happy and did not go through the door.
alr, send me the scans, I bet even the explanation you mentioned will refute your arguments"infinite magical power" What do you understand from here? Mavis also has additional statements on this subject.
Uncontrollable =/= Being independent of speed. Also, will there be a war where Zeref will go crazy like this? Even if it were, this is the kind of technique that even Post Tenro arc characters can get rid of.Anksheram is uncontrollable as long as there is an emotional explosion. If Zeref experiences this, Selene has no chance.
bruh. If a character establishes overwhelming dominance, this immo doesn't matter to Zeref, remember how Zeref was afraid of Pre SBT AcnoZeref is superior in other abilities, to put it simply, immortality type 8.
Your claims about Zeref are the same.Your thoughts don't mean anything, we don't have any information about it yet.
Send the scans (I hope you don't use the scan that August suggested as a "possibility" in the raw translation, because no one except August knows the power of Pre SBT Acno)It's said about 2 or 3 times in this series
The fact that Zeref wants to die does not change the fact that he was oppressed by Natsu. Zeref is truly a loser in front of Natsu."igneel give me more power" Is this how Natsu defeated Zeref lol Don't be ridiculous, Zeref said the following sentence in the first battle "Please kill me right now" and in the second battle we clearly see his desire to die. Zeref, the creator of Natsu, his first purpose was never to kill him, but to die.
Omw to remove Low 2-C Neo Eclipse right now
blud ignores Zeref's shaking scenes and dozens of expressionsIn the case of Base Zeref and PRE-SBT acnologia, I assume them to be equal, with Zeref slightly ahead.
No, Zeref himself said he wanted to die. If he wanted to win, he would have gone through the gate and created the new universe instead of fighting.I don't know if you've read Fairy Tail, but Zeref literally desired to obtain the Fairy Heart and pass through the door. The nonsense that Zeref was knowingly killed by Natsu or that he didn't fight with all his strength, etc. are all your baseless claims. Zeref thought that he wanted to kill Natsu with all his might and sent him to Makarov, but Natsu came back and kicked his ass, that's the whole story.
No, here's the scan I'm talking about.No, he was bloodthirsty and wanted to pass through the gate, this is evident even from his facial expressions... His only purpose was to pass through the guild gate and fight against pre SBT Acnologia in his next life (along with Natsu, btw the reason I say pre SBT is because Zeref never knew Acno's SBT form )
alr, send me the scans, I bet even the explanation you mentioned will refute your arguments
There is no need for this anyway. The speeds of both are almost equal, if I do not remember wrongly, zeref is around 30x ftl, selene is the same, and zeref is much superior in other abilities.Uncontrollable =/= Being independent of speed. Also, will there be a war where Zeref will go crazy like this? Even if it were, this is the kind of technique that even Post Tenro arc characters can get rid of.
my brother didn't even read the fairy tail properly I discarded the scan and zeref says; And because we cannot die... we will be his eternal playthingsbruh. If a character establishes overwhelming dominance, this immo doesn't matter to Zeref, remember how Zeref was afraid of Pre SBT Acno
Send the scans (I hope you don't use the scan that August suggested as a "possibility" in the raw translation, because no one except August knows the power of Pre SBT Acno)
Already answered. Zeref wanted to die more than he wanted to defeat Natsu.The fact that Zeref wants to die does not change the fact that he was oppressed by Natsu. Zeref is truly a loser in front of Natsu.
Did...No, Zeref himself said he wanted to die. If he wanted to win, he would have gone through the gate and created the new universe instead of fighting.
oh yeah wrong scan I really need to delete this from my gallery... thank youDid...
Did you just use a fanmade manga as evidence?
No, Zeref himself said he wanted to die. If he wanted to win, he would have gone through the gate and created the new universe instead of fighting.
We stop making baseless claims, right? Because even the character you're defending doesn't agree with you lolThe greatest of methods... Neo Eclipse!!
I don't know why you used this, but (no hate) it's really funny that you marked the laughing scene of Zeref. What do you mean, he is happy that he died at the end, how can you reconcile this with the fight?No, here's the scan I'm talking about.
my brother didn't even read the fairy tail properly
I have no claim that Zeref will die anyway. Zeref's immortality doesn't work against anyone superior to him, that's what I'm saying.And because we cannot die... we will be his eternal playthings
so zeref emphasises that he won't die, he just won't be able to defeat acnologia before he gets the fairy heart and since he's immortal he'll be like a toy forever. but this doesn't apply to selene because zeref is superior as ap they are almost equal in speed and zeref is far superior in stamina and ability
Just possibility. There's still great uncertainty. Also, since no one else knows about Acno, their statements are irrelevant.You aren't a worthy opponent for him. Maybe if your Majesty receives the Fairy Heart...
already neo eclipse is the most powerful technique? We do not claim otherwiseWe stop making baseless claims, right? Because even the character you're defending doesn't agree with you lol
What I'm talking about is that Zeref thinks he's dead here and is happy. If Zeref's aim was to win, he would have gone straight through the door.I don't know why you used this, but (no hate) it's really funny that you marked the laughing scene of Zeref. What do you mean, he is happy that he died at the end, how can you reconcile this with the fight?
''Zeref's immortality doesn't work against anyone superior to him,''I have no claim that Zeref will die anyway. Zeref's immortality doesn't work against anyone superior to him, that's what I'm saying.
First thing to go over is the fundamentals of how magic power works in Fairy Tail. In this verse, the quantity of magic power you have equates to how strong you are as a character. People with more magic power than others are shown as stronger in AP and Durability. This is proven by spells such as Second Origin and Third Origin which allow the user to gain a larger storage of magic power within their body and as a result, makes said person much stronger. As well, whenever a character absorbs magic power from another person or an external source and adds it to their own magic power, they also get stronger as a result. Not to mention that anytime in the series, whenever someone refers to another person as far stronger, they usually refer to the quantity of a person’s magic power. So, once again, if Object A has more magic power than Object B, then Object A is superior in Attack Power, that’s a fundamental law of the verse.okay so? Infinite magic power does not mean infinite AP. If you make such a claim, you seriously need additional context.
Honestly it's not even worth continuing when we know the story agrees with us. This is just them cherrypicking what they want out of the story to push an agenda, rather than going for what's accurate
We stop making baseless claims, right? Because even the character you're defending doesn't agree with you lol
I don't know why you used this, but (no hate) it's really funny that you marked the laughing scene of Zeref. What do you mean, he is happy that he died at the end, how can you reconcile this with the fight?
You're talking about "your brother" who isn't refuted by the character he defends and doesn't use fan manga as an argument.
I have no claim that Zeref will die anyway. Zeref's immortality doesn't work against anyone superior to him, that's what I'm saying.
okay so? Infinite magic power does not mean infinite AP. If you make such a claim, you seriously need additional context.
Just possibility. There's still great uncertainty. Also, since no one else knows about Acno, their statements are irrelevant.
So there is a huge difference between Dragon Gods and Base Zeref. The reason Zeref's Ankhseram had an effect on Aldaron was because it was a kind of counter hax (it still couldn't completely destroy it). + Actually, what interests me more here is not the issue of Selene and Zeref, but people's denial of the fact that Zeref was crushed by Natsu with baseless claims.
I may have exaggerated zeref in a tiny little way, but this is due to my hatred for acnologia.I've literally seen claims that Base Zeref is superior to Post-SBT Acnologia here as well, it's hilarious