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What makes Lily's NEP better? They both have type 1 but Monika has more aspects.Lily does have the better NEP from the looks of it.
Following.
NGL I don't understand what you are trying to even say here. Sorry.Monika's plot seems heavily tied to information Type 2
also, is the protagonist like the guy diving into the simulation?
her deleting and making characters unrecognizable by the game is simply kernel level manipulation of the game that not even the system detects it as programs to execute etc since it was still able to parsed some things but not the entirety. that's like reading the exe file as Mac user
when i checked the scans about her plot it all dumbs down to just information type 2. So the plot does not supersede info type 2 but rather the info or the game info supersedes itNGL I don't understand what you are trying to even say here. Sorry.
Her NEP also includes type 3 and isn't limitedWhat makes Lily's NEP better? They both have type 1 but Monika has more aspects.
Both Lily's keys are tier 10 doe. She just gets higher ratings with witch of roses and golden guni thought this is frmo top 15 strongest tier 10 ratings
so are we using their strongest key or those key?
If this fight goes beyond Monika's first thought then Lily stomps.Thinking about it, only thing we have seen Post-Sona Lily do when faced with a threat is immediately go witch form and attack with Howler.
Pretty sure speed equalize doesn't extend to amps, so that's normal human to FTL. Howler is at least a type 1 concept, as it is a kin of M, who was honestly thinking about if we should give him NEP 2 and type 5 Acausality, but seemed a bit much, he should downstate to M's jet black which is conceptual though.
Lily also instinctively pull the gun in response to the threat that was Edison, so yea that could come out pretty quick, and by this key, she can show up in a form of gold, and give people power with it, while ebgaging in conversatiins, it really doesn't seem like her golden power is limited anymore.This is contrasted to before where she had to immediately attack her opponent, cause she could only maintain her witch form for less than a second.
But of course Lily is oblivious to her own power, it's all going to be Instinctive for her.
The issue with this line of thinking is that Monika still existed within the game despite her character file (contains info, concept, mind, narrative, etc) being deleted.when i checked the scans about her plot it all dumbs down to just information type 2. So the plot does not supersede info type 2 but rather the info or the game info supersedes it
so if we are to believe lily has no info then it will not work even if it is also plot manipulation. the same way a character can resist the effect of an ability because a character resist the effect but not the cause
Contextwise between their abilities.
If she can not come back from narrative and nonexistent info erasure then she's dead permanently right off the bat.Due to Lily's nature and ability to use cracking, she can likely come back from what Monika throws at her except for plot likely as her high-godly doesn't cover narrative
It's not though because Monika's first move is always going to be deletion. And she does so with a thought whereas Lily has to actually pull out the gun from the looks of it.If Lily uses golden gun before Monika narratively + info erases then she wins
but if Monika uses her narrative info erasure first then she wins
this is probably incon
How does Monika delete? Coz Lily instinctively pulls out the gunIt's not though because Monika's first move is always going to be deletion. And she does so with a thought whereas Lily has to actually pull out the gun from the looks of it.
Pretty cut and dry speed different between those two.
via Thought. I said so already. Instinctive action doesn't make a physical action faster than a thought.How does Monika delete? Coz Lily instinctively pulls out the gun
i don't want to contest it since it is in the profile. but this doesn't answer how all if it is information within the game so information still supersedes it since deleting the first save or reinstalling still lets he game continue still.The issue with this line of thinking is that Monika still existed within the game despite her character file (contains info, concept, mind, narrative, etc) being deleted.
And she was still able to delete herself and the entire game using her same powers still. So she should be able to affect nonexistence information with her abilities.
That being said I just don't see how Lily is going to regenerate when Monika can erase her across more aspects than she can regenerate from.
How he he going to revive her in the first place?but either way, Celestial pegasus mentioned A being with him all the time
do we assume that he would be with her in this fight or will he be outside the battlefield
since if we put him outside it would put monika in a disadvantage because monika can only reach low 2-C and A being outside the are they will be fighting would be able to revive her.
but if he's with her they both can be deleted together which nulls any possible way to comeback assuming she gets deleted
idk what is considered standard whether a character connected to you completely being outside the fight or with you
by creating a new one using his memoriesHow he he going to revive her in the first place?
train-kun solosA is always in her shadow, but he could be elsewhere too, because A can exist in multiple places at once.
As long as anyone remembers Lily she can come back, so if A is alive she can come back.
A also follows her around while she is traveling across the universe/different time periods/other dimensions, while the real Liliy and A are in their train, idk how that plays in a match up honestly. Probably have to specific where A is.
But yea Post-Sona Nyl A can only fight with Howler, so that would be his first move, and as I said Howler is a type 1 concept.
like i said lack of reach. the same way plot hax won't reach someone from a higher dimensionHow is he gonna remember her when she's gone from the plot itself I don't understand.
What the **** calm down for a bit lol.Plot and information in Doki is deeper than concept. Since the plot contains said information and concepts.
About this, given that the Player was able to remember the deleted Dokis literally only because they were outside the game, I don't think M would have a problem either.How is he gonna remember her when she's gone from the plot itself I don't understand.