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And the internal logic of the story giving that explanation?
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And the internal logic of the story giving that explanation?
........as i said, you have to alter the cells to make someone not age, that is how aging worksAnd the internal logic of the story giving that explanation?
He also likely used the bio-engineering component he used for the Androids, which makes them almost (but not quite) ageless. So his statement on Eternal Life is well founded.Mmm...he says that he is looking for eternal life and he wanted to extend his life so the only thing left for him was to become an android.
Sure, in real life yes (if immortality existed...) but we are talking about immortality made with magic (an attribute that Cell never demonstrated) and not with a biological explanation involved.........as i said, you have to alter the cells to make someone not age, that is how aging worksi have being saying the entire time
Longevity, there is no estimate of life span but it is not even close to equal to eternal life.He also likely used the bio-engineering component he used for the Androids, which makes them almost (but not quite) ageless. So his statement on Eternal Life is well founded.
From my point of view on the scene, Gero declares that he became an android to live longer and therefore can investigate more to obtain eternal life, perhaps my intention was not clear when translated.He also likely used the bio-engineering component he used for the Androids, which makes them almost (but not quite) ageless. So his statement on Eternal Life is well founded.
No, he says he wanted Eternal Life as a response to 18–As in, the reason why he’s a robot is because, according to him, it’ll make him live forever.From my point of view on the scene, Gero declares that he became an android to live longer and therefore can investigate more to obtain eternal life, perhaps my intention was not clear when translated.
Yes, however we see pretty clearly in Future Trunks’ timeline that they don’t age whatsoever. They killed everyone when Gohan was just a kid, and they lived up until Trunks was nearly a grown man, age wise. They are quite effectively, although not literally, ageless. Thus, him saying he can get Eternal Life from his procedure (which makes him more machine than them), is well founded. Especially since he can just…keep creating bodies.Longevity, there is no estimate of life span but it is not even close to equal to eternal life.
Yes, you are right about that. 17 and 18 are the type that age slowly and yes, if they tell you that they age slowly it is obvious that the duration of their life stages will be longer.No, he says he wanted Eternal Life as a response to 18–As in, the reason why he’s a robot is because, according to him, it’ll make him live forever.
Yes, however we see pretty clearly in Future Trunks’ timeline that they don’t age whatsoever. They killed everyone when Gohan was just a kid, and they lived up until Trunks was nearly a grown man, age wise. They are quite effectively, although not literally, ageless. Thus, him saying he can get Eternal Life from his procedure (which makes him more machine than them), is well founded. Especially since he can just…keep creating bodies.
the default assumption would be that his cells/biology was altered to never age, and the story doesn't give us a reason to ever think otherwiseSure, in real life yes (if immortality existed...) but we are talking about immortality made with magic (an attribute that Cell never demonstrated) and not with a biological explanation involved.
He says he turned himself into a robot because he wanted it, as in past tense. Years ago, when he wanted eternal life, he gave himself a robot body. Now, whether or not he was really effective in that goal is another matter, but we for certain know what he meant in this interaction.But Gero says (at least in the scan) that he is "wanted" eternal life, not that he has achieved it.
Surely there is logic like that in some story but I don't see that in dB that background has been given to Piccolo's wish... This is a circle, brother. Create what you want with the arguments you have at hand.the default assumption would be that his cells/biology was altered to never age, and the story doesn't give us a reason to ever think otherwise
i mean......when basic logic would dictate a conclusion, said conclusion doesn't need to be directly stated, specially when the verse doesn't give us anything to doubt the said logic in the first placeSurely there is logic like that in some story but I don't see that in dB that background has been given to Piccolo's wish...
do not understand what you meant by thisThis is a circle, brother. Create what you want with the arguments you have at hand.
So you draw conclusions without evidence? In the case of the verse, we can see how it is based on magic/ki to give a logic to the supernatural powers that coexist with the logic of real life.i mean......when basic logic would dictate a conclusion, said conclusion doesn't need to be directly stated, specially when the verse doesn't give us anything to doubt the said logic in the first place
do not understand what you meant by this
i presented evidence, it is.....the most basic way aging worksSo you draw conclusions without evidence?
do you have any evidence that the way his eternal life was not by altering his biology? because i already showed proof that for one to remain forever young their cells would need to be altered by defaultIn the case of the verse, we can see how it is based on magic/ki to give a logic to the supernatural powers that coexist with the logic of real life.
Once Multiversal Cell is done, im ready for outer Mr. Satan
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Dubbing must have been done poorlyI find it funny that the dub says it's making the whole Earth shake, but the sub says the whole universe lmao
Isn't Shenlong a being made by the magic of kami sama? Doesn't he use magic to manipulate reality and grant wishes? I don't remember the background of the wish he asked Shenlong in that way being specified...i presented evidence, it is.....the most basic way aging works
do you have any evidence that the way his eternal life was not by altering his biology? because i already showed proof that for one to remain forever young their cells would need to be altered by default
yes and yes, he alters reality with his wishing powers.........don't see how that has anything to do with the topic at handIsn't Shenlong a being made by the magic of kami sama? Doesn't he use magic to manipulate reality and grant wishes? I don't remember the background of the wish he asked Shenlong in that way being specified...
According to your logic, I can theorize in the same way that Shenlong stops and reverses the time of the characters' bodies at a specific age, there is evidence of that, no and for this reason I ask you for the guide/chapter of the manga that specifies what you are stating .yes and yes, he alters reality with his wishing powers.........don't see how that has anything to do with the topic at hand
That's why I ask you to share the DB guide where the theory you have about the wish that Piccolo made to Shenlong is affirmed.yes and yes, he alters reality with his wishing powers.........don't see how that has anything to do with the topic at hand
which we know isn't the case since piccolo grew to his current appearance from a child appearance, plus saying that a time hax is involved rather than their biology simply making them not age is.......quite a bigger assumption don't you think?According to your logic, I can theorize in the same way that Shenlong stops and reverses the time of the characters' bodies at a specific age
again, that is just the basics of how aging works and what one would need for them to not age, it is.......very basic logic, there is evidence of that, no and for this reason I ask you for the guide/chapter of the manga that specifies what you are stating .
theory? i wouldn't go that far to call it that, age happens because of x, they don't age anymore, so the x was altered to not happen, that is not a theory, it is only logicalThat's why I ask you to share the DB guide where the theory you have about the wish that Piccolo made to Shenlong is affirmed.
Who says that Piccolo's wish couldn't temporarily manipulate his physiology even at his peak instead of manipulating him biologically as you claim?theory? i wouldn't go that far to call it that, age happens because of x, they don't age anymore, so the x was altered to not happen, that is not a theory, it is only logical
And let's go with the same thing, I told you that your theory is as valid as mine, there are no implications of biological manipulation or temporal manipulation in them beyond "reversing" and "keeping Piccolo at his best."theory? i wouldn't go that far to call it that, age happens because of x, they don't age anymore, so the x was altered to not happen, that is not a theory, it is only logical
how do we know this? legit question btwThe wish implied that he was in his "best moment" Piccolo's growth was very rapid for a normal Namekian and we know that in db there are long-lasting wishes like that from Bardock to Torombo.
........physiology is but branch of biology that deals with the normal functions of living organisms and their parts, aka..........you just agreed with meWho says that Piccolo's wish couldn't temporarily manipulate his physiology even at his peak instead of manipulating him biologically as you claim?
yeah, but one is a logical conclusion based on the very mechanics of how aging works.......the other is an unfounded possibility supported by nothingAnd let's go with the same thing, I told you that your theory is as valid as mine, there are no implications of biological manipulation or temporal manipulation in them beyond "reversing" and "keeping Piccolo at his best."
My theory also uses logic, a functional logic for itself but that does not make it true without facts that support it.theory? i wouldn't go that far to call it that, age happens because of x, they don't age anymore, so the x was altered to not happen, that is not a theory, it is only logical
And the internal logic of DB that explains what you claim?how do we know this? legit question btw
........physiology is but branch of biology that deals with the normal functions of living organisms and their parts, aka..........you just agreed with me
yeah, but one is a logical conclusion based on the very mechanics of how aging works.......the other is an unfounded possibility supported by nothing
why the multipost for the same post? why not write all in 1 post?My theory also uses logic, a functional logic for itself but that does not make it true without facts that support it.
The fact is that you don't understand what I'm trying to imply, it will most likely be lost in the translator.how do we know this? legit question btw
........physiology is but branch of biology that deals with the normal functions of living organisms and their parts, aka..........you just agreed with me
yeah, but one is a logical conclusion based on the very mechanics of how aging works.......the other is an unfounded possibility supported by nothing
Because I'm used to Twitterwhy the multipost for the same post? why not write all in 1 post?
I trust you, newbieThe fact is that you don't understand what I'm trying to imply, it will most likely be lost in the translator.
You can report him, as that is not allowed here.@Robo432343 Would have asked in private but uh, ur profile is limited so.... I'd appreciate if you credited me or just linked my blog instead of copy-pasting everything word for word and saying you found it yourself. (Yes ik most of these scans are everywhere but copy pasting word for word and whatnot instead of just linking is weird). Thanks![]()
What rule does this break?You can report him, as that is not allowed here.
It was said that it is not allowed to copy other people's things once and post them by a staff member, but you can check around.What rule does this break?