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That is the implication tho. Goku having a faster than finite speed >>> finite speed holding back whis
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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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forgot he existed
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that just proves Whis can do it as well but doesnt because he specifically isnt allowed to exert himself. even Beerus at one point considered Whis slow so that isnt something weird.
regardless the feat is still an outlier. I just wanted to show why veronica's "reasoning" was bad as always
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It does because Whis always uses the technique "warp" to travel. Meaning he himself is far slower than the staff. We have also Beerus a MUI tier character who is far below Whis warp.
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When is Whis ever stated to not be allowed to use his full power / flight speed? The only restriction on Whis is that he can't take biased actions in conflicts.
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wasnt that stated? maybe I am misremembering the statement idk
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That's an argument for another day
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if we do that we're gonna end up with either infinite speed or high 3-A manga Z
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The name is only game, the technique is shown in the anime many times. If he isn't than why not use his own speed rather than relying on the staff's speed? Beerus to Whis "Can you go any faster". Whis "this is fast as I can go" and Beerus stays in the white warp
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Did you forget? When the universe was accepted as infinite, infinite speed was considered atypical.
In terms of speed, the only thing that would happen would be a downgrade since that calculation could no longer be used.
In terms of speed, the only thing that would happen would be a downgrade since that calculation could no longer be used.
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I agree that Whis probably isn’t limited this way, but there is some minor implication. Merus using his Angel Powers to train Goku, for example, was considered broaching the line. This implies that there is also some level of power they can’t cross. That SAID, Whis is constantly training Goku and Vegeta with Ultra Instinct thanks to its passive status within his physiology, so I elect to believe it’s either Merus Specific (He’s in training and on a Mortal Life Leave), or proportional to the Angel in question.
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no the "technique" itself is only distinguished as a technique separate from his flight in games. in both the manga and anime its just Whis's flight speed, nothing more. the anime and manga dont make the distinction only the games do.
cuz they're the same as I said. He IS relying on his own speed. the distinction only comes from the game. his staff's speed is never referred to as a separate "ability" in any canon media
which is disproven when Whis comes from beerus's planet to earth in under a minute on screen and says he has never flown this fast before in the Arale episode.
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that's just bullshit lol. this proves that the problem isnt DB's speed having (too many) outliers the problem is the incredulity of a few people who have a strict headcanon as to what Dragon Ball should be
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Granted Whis definitely isn't using his full power in sparring matches; he could knock out Beerus with a tap after all so he definitely isn't fighting at that level when training Goku and Vegeta. Doesn't mean he has to limit himself outside of that.
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Well, at the time it was considered outlier. And well, I doubt anything has changed since that time.
Since there will still be the ToP problem and the lack of more similar feats.
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Idk what everyone is arguing but whis isn't allowed to go full power otherwise he would get erased just like what happened to meerus so yes there is an extent till which whis could use his power otherwise it would breach the angel code
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That’s what I mean by proportional. Merus using his Angel Power (Ultra Instinct and that general level), is a problem—But Whis at that level is fine because he’s not taking it seriously at all.
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I'm in agreement with you. Whis stated that Merus was going to use his full strength.
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False. We see Whis tap in space with the staff and than it creates a white warp. Clearly showing it's the staff ability.
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nothing about that proves its a separate ability. and what warp? what is that? I've never heard that term in manga or anime so i have no idea what you're on about.
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I don't believe we have even seen whis power up
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exactly, he always just seems to be on the same level no matter what.
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He does, yeah.
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He clearly uses the staff by taping it on the ground in ground or in space: https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/d.../smart/width/386/height/259?cb=20190831033529
That white warp isn't Whis own aura. Also Whis staff has more technique such as: staff dimension and its not Whis own technique als. Yet it doesn't have a name either.
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Me asking is a reason we should probably have a skill blog
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dead link plus that link is about the temporal do-over. completely different thing.
prove that. also makes no difference but try proving that
makes no difference.
Its clear what your goal here is you've been presenting every possible DB downplay argument you can possibly find in every possible trashcan that exists including sites like comicvine but it wont work here. continue being insufferable and you'll (hopefully) get thread banned again
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why a blog? just put in the relevant Characters inteligence Section, in the others say "scales to x character" and be done with it
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Other verses have skill blogs + the intelligence sections for the characters suck
Like anyone skill scaling from literally anyone from Grampa Gohan should have genius combat Intelligence
Also I ain't reading through a bunch of profiles to find out how skilled they are, a blog is much easier to read
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The Warp technique used by Whis in Dragon Ball Super is a form of teleportation, not a demonstration of his raw speed. When Whis uses the Warp technique, he taps his staff and a white sphere forms around him. This sphere is a protective field that allows him and anyone else within it to travel safely through space.
Now show me that the white warp is Whis aura
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no such "technique" exists in the manga or anime. If there is then show me proof from either of those continuities that acknowledges it because I know for a fact you copied this from some Dragon ball wiki. and no its not teleportation either. the only forms of teleportation that exist in the verse are Instant Transmission and Kai-kai
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It's a techniques. Why does Whis tap the ground creating a sphere with the staff?
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prove it
i don't care why he does it, that doesn't prove anything. he doesn't do it in the Arale episode when he leaves Earth.
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We also literally see a dimensional circle during flight when he uses warp. Also the tapping was off screen as it only showed them flying away. When Whis flies on his own the white warp is never shown, because its an transportation technique. So the staff being Whis own speed is head-canon and you dismissed it with "Nu, Uh!".
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Sigh..I mean just create a CRT if you believe so many stuff is wrong with db on this wiki.
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what dimensional circle? it's just some light
proof?
and yet he can still blitz character who can react to attacks that would engulf the universe in seconds. you just debunked yourself
transportation =/= teleportation. and transport who exactly? you still havent proven why its a technique.
No you're the one bringing up headcanon and calling it a different ability by literally using evidence from games. don't play dumb with me. Either provide evidence from anime or manga that its a separate technique or piss off
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Maybe just can't, lol
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with how her previous CRTs have gone she probably shouldn't. she's on the cusp of getting topic banned
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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
Bold of you to assume Kurumada actually thinks about what he’s writing Kurumada lost his sense of writing ever since he had the Gold Saints wasting their breathe by fighting each other for silly reasons when they should be saving their strength for their enemies instead. Like how are they even...
my suspicion was right! Veronica IS a comicvine user
. no wonder all her arguments are beyond gutter trash. and she repeatedly quotes the same guy from comicvine who's notorious for downplaying Dragon ball with bullshit like sub-FTL DBS and below universal Goku, it makes sense now. she gets all her arguments from comicvine
