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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

RedReaper616 said:
Omega.
Cell literally reverts to his first/earliest free state.
This is a thing that happens.
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Yeah, he still need to grow from a fetus to that

I consider that as his "adult" body if i wasn't clear before

RedReaper616 said:
And it's a larva-egg thing that burrows in the ground.

Meaning that the earliest free state he has after completion is a larva-egg thing that burrows into the ground.
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which proves that hia fetus state isn't complete at all, meaning that the time he took to grow out of that to become an......."larva egg thing" is counted as well

RedReaper616 said:
Not the adult size weird bug man we know takes 3 years to prep outside of that.
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his earlier state is a fetus, even with this he would still need time to grow out of being a fetus and into being a "bug"

XXBenShapiroXx said:
The only data that could've been gathered for the Cell Goku fought would be from Future Gohan. We don't know when he started fighting the androids, or when he got super saiyan. And future gohan didn't have tons of good training options, so he wouldn't be that far ahead of his kid self.
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I am talking about the scene in the present where Cell talks to Piccolo, in that he would still be evolving by getting more data, i was not talking about Future Cell since you were talking about him talking about present cell

XXBenShapiroXx said:
Besides, Cell gives the 24 year figure before mentioning the drones. That could mean the 24 years figure is the bare minimum
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FOr what exactly? The fighting data being analysed or for him to grow out of the Fetus stage?
 
Omegabronic said:
Yeah, he still need to grow from a fetus to that

I consider that as his "adult" body if i wasn't clear before


which proves that hia fetus state isn't complete at all, meaning that the time he took to grow out of that to become an......."larva egg thing" is counted as well


his earlier state is a fetus, even with this he would still need time to grow out of being a fetus and into being a "bug"


I am talking about the scene in the present where Cell talks to Piccolo, in that he would still be evolving by getting more data, i was not talking about Future Cell since you were talking about him talking about present cell


FOr what exactly? The fighting data being analysed or for him to grow out of the Fetus stage?
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Cell has no idea what data could possibly be gathered. 24 years isn't for just this timeline's cell.

Cell specifically says 'research', not growing, 'research'. This fetus stage is inconsequential in time since Cell never mentions it, where as the analyzing of data, the research, takes 24 years.

Cell isn't saying could be 24 years because whatever data he could get, nor does he mention the 24 years being because of his growth as a fetus.
 
Omegabronic said:
Yeah, he still need to grow from a fetus to that

I consider that as his "adult" body if i wasn't clear before
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You were not.
Omegabronic said:
which proves that hia fetus state isn't complete at all, meaning that the time he took to grow out of that to become an......."larva egg thing" is counted as well
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His literal physiology is seen to be complete in the tank, though. So this doesn't make sense.
Omegabronic said:
his earlier state is a fetus, even with this he would still need time to grow out of being a fetus and into being a "bug"
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Yes...A process that takes three years in an egg, which burrows in a ground after he was free. Meaning his physical form is good.
Omegabronic said:
I am talking about the scene in the present where Cell talks to Piccolo, in that he would still be evolving by getting more data, i was not talking about Future Cell since you were talking about him talking about present cell
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Present Cell is just Future Cell further down his personal timeline, so effectively the same thing. This is why he says "the only extra adjustment data he could've gotten was from Gohan." Because Cell originates from Future Trunks' timeline, where the only fighter alive is Future Gohan, as Trunks did not become a fighter until Gohan died, where we only know of one fight he lost so badly he went and time travelled. Further, Cell explicitly states they opted out of Trunks' data, because of the fact they found it redundant. And it obviously wasn't the Androids, because they already have that info. Logically, this means you're arguing the entire time for adjustments was spent on Future Gohan's combat data, which is inferior to Goku's, which means that you're still indirectly scaling Goku's data up by that much regardless.
 
You are getting hung up on something that's never even stated to be something that would take enough time to be noteworthy. We never see this 'adult feetus', we don't know what it looks like, for all we know it could look exactly the same as the feetus we see.

So I don't see any good reason for Goku not scaling, it's based on literally nothing.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
You are getting hung up on something that's never even stated to be something that would take enough time to be noteworthy. We never see this 'adult feetus', we don't know what it looks like, for all we know it could look exactly the same as the feetus we see.

So I don't see any good reason for Goku not scaling, it's based on literally nothing.
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When did i said Goku wouldn't scale? He does scale to Cell, what are you talking about?
 
Omegabronic said:
I mean.....yeah? Cell has all that in his DNA.........hold on, what do you think i disagree with exactly?
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Omega I swear I will go down to Brazil, join the cartels, and mess up your wi-fi connection by piggy packing off of it and downloading copious amounts of hentai and I won't let you watch any of it with me
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
Omega I swear I will go down to Brazil, join the cartels, and mess up your wi-fi connection by piggy packing off of it and downloading copious amounts of hentai and I won't let you watch any of it with me
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Woah you watch H-stuff with your bros together?
 
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Hasty12345 said:
… Unfortunately, I didn't come here to make friends. I knew the amount of backlash I would face trying to do this alone. I'm not one of those guys that goes with the popular, bowing there heads to a corrupt system. Call me whatever you want. Cringe or not I don't care. --Samlex1234
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Peak quote.
 
Krillin should get EG for catching up with SSB Goku with infinitely less training. No way we’re calling Goku a prodigy but not my boy Krillin.
 
The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Okay uhh...okay I think I got a good topic of discussion:

What movie villain do you think had a boat load of potential, but was squandered or underutilized one way or the other?
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Turles. With the Tree of Might as an endless source of power growth, you can really get into some Vegeta-like character arcs with him by exploring why he maintained his evil nature even after escaping and largely becoming an actively powerful group in the universe in spite of Frieza. How he gained access to the ToM, how these Fruits work (and thus worldbuilding) given their origins for the Divine, etc. Plus since we know Turles intended to gank Frieza, there could be a really interesting interaction in which Goku already beat Frieza, but unlike Vegeta, whose pride that act tarnished, Turles doesn’t care. He was gunning for Frieza for the sake of a cosmic stranglehold. Something that occurs due to the classism of Saiyans, causing what essentially is a lack of pride. (Hence why he uses the Fruits casually without naturally attaining those levels of power like a “real” Saiyan would.)
 
My post about the ecosystem ruffled some feathers off site I've heard. Seems they missed the over arching point. I didn't support Fuji making downgrades, I just said that she was server as a critical eye for verses that don't have any, regardless of if she was a good eye or not. So now some verses don't have any critical eyes.

When that happens, mass downgrades for things that never should've been accepted get made. Didn't think I needed to spell that out but people be maldin
 
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