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Battle for the 9th strongest 9-B non smurf | Subaru Natsuki vs Jodie Holmes

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Arc 5-8 Subaru is used and Jodie is in her Post-CIA training key

Speed non equalized (Both are already Athletic Human with allies that are far higher)
SBA otherwise

AP and Durability: Subaru scale to 0.00336 Tons and Jodie to 1,55x10^7 Joules.
LS: Subaru is Athletic and Jodie Superhuman

Emilia's knight:
Former spy:
Incon:
 
Subaru has way higher perception and reaction speed and beatrice is sub relativistic, add to this Subaru's rbd and this will always end up with him winning with either SI or Al Shamak

Subaru's LS will also get a big increase since he can chuck boulders with his whip at (likely) supersonic speeds

votign for him
 
Subaru has way higher perception and reaction speed and beatrice is sub relativistic, add to this Subaru's rbd and this will always end up with him winning with either SI or Al Shamak

Subaru's LS will also get a big increase since he can chuck boulders with his whip at (likely) supersonic speeds

votign for him
Yes Subaru can blitz however killing Jodie would just make her jump to her third key, basically turning her into a second Aiden and they cannot interact with Aiden (combo incorpo+intangibility) plus Beatrice cannot see Aiden.
For the SI, Subaru would have to convince two people with different personalities (plus Jodie have trust issue in this key because she just got betrayed and Aiden is a little barbaric).
Meanwhile they can incap Subaru via possession or knock him out with pressure point, plus their divination would help them figure out the best way to deal with Subaru
 
Yes Subaru can blitz however killing Jodie would just make her jump to her third key, basically turning her into a second Aiden and they cannot interact with Aiden (combo incorpo+intangibility) plus Beatrice cannot see Aiden.
ReZero characters have ESP and can sense a bunch of stuff like hostility, prescence, aura and mana so being invisible doesnt really hide them from anybody
and magic can interact with spirits who also have incorpo + intagibility combo, Al shamak is also BFR and not a killing magic
For the SI, Subaru would have to convince two people with different personalities (plus Jodie have trust issue in this key because she just got betrayed
Subaru has very easily convinced Beatrice who not only had deep scars from having her trust broken and being left behind for over 400 yrs but also was very adamant on holding on to the role given to her by Echidna, so much so that she would prefer dying over breaking her contract.
and Aiden is a little barbaric).
Most people Subaru SI's are hell bent on killing him (Rem, Meilli, etc.) so that isnt going to be hard either
Meanwhile they can incap Subaru via possession
wont work because spirits in ReZero can counter possesion as seen in season 1 with petelgeuse failing to possess Subaru after he gets a spirit (even if he does get Possessed though, any form of soul manipulation on Subaru will cause Satella to come out and rampage and there is no stopping her. However, she simply knocked Petelgeuse out of Subaru the last time he was possessed)
or knock him out with pressure point, plus their divination would help them figure out the best way to deal with Subaru
they dont have the speed to do that as once again, Subaru has sub rel perception and reaction speed so dodging is going to be a piece of cake for him

They did have to deal with Subaru's first assault in any scenario and i do not see them making it out most of the time
 
ReZero characters have ESP and can sense a bunch of stuff like hostility, prescence, aura and mana so being invisible doesnt really hide them from anybody
I don't see it on Beatrice profile
and magic can interact with spirits who also have incorpo + intagibility combo,
Again I don't see NPI on either profile
Al shamak is also BFR and not a killing magic
Dimensional travel counter this
Subaru has very easily convinced Beatrice who not only had deep scars from having her trust broken and being left behind for over 400 yrs but also was very adamant on holding on to the role given to her by Echidna, so much so that she would prefer dying over breaking her contract.
It took multiple tries and they weren't in a fight.
Most people Subaru SI's are hell bent on killing him (Rem, Meilli, etc.) so that isnt going to be hard either
Yes but when I said that Aiden was barbaric, it would be more fiting to say he is almost a psycopath. He never have any trouble in killing even innocents. He goes for the kill even in friendly spar here and here. Locked bullies into a house before setting it on fire. Nearly killed a kid that was a bit too brutal with Jodie. Went out of control all of the sudden and bullied and tried to kill an innocent woman for seemingly no reason. Tried to kill his and Jodie's adoptive father after he abandoned them. He is also incredibly overprotective and possessive of Jodie, ruining all her date because quoting him "you don't need him you have me".
wont work because spirits in ReZero can counter possesion as seen in season 1 with petelgeuse failing to possess Subaru after he gets a spirit (even if he does get Possessed though, any form of soul manipulation on Subaru will cause Satella to come out and rampage and there is no stopping her. However, she simply knocked Petelgeuse out of Subaru the last time he was possessed)
Again not on the profile + they just have to kill/Incap Beatrice first, possession is also not soul manipulation, Aiden can let Subaru go at any time and it's not like he would have suffered from the possession.
they dont have the speed to do that as once again, Subaru has sub rel perception and reaction speed so dodging is going to be a piece of cake for him
They did have to deal with Subaru's first assault in any scenario and i do not see them making it out most of the time
Aiden have infinite endurance compared to Beatrice Low endurance, as soon as she is tired it's over for her. Plus, Aiden is far faster than Subaru (Supersonic vs Athletic Human) and he can't dodge something that don't travel so his reactions don't matters.
 
I don't see it on Beatrice profile
Again I don't see NPI on either profile

Beatrice can kill spirits with magic
Dimensional travel counter this
can they come back from a separate void dimension that has nothing inside of it?
It took multiple tries and they weren't in a fight.
Subaru has as many chances as he needs, and his SI has only gotten better with time. Current Subaru can rouse an entire island of gladiators and have them join his side in rioting against their own motherland
Yes but when I said that Aiden was barbaric, it would be more fiting to say he is almost a psycopath. He never have any trouble in killing even innocents. He goes for the kill even in friendly spar here and here. Locked bullies into a house before setting it on fire. Nearly killed a kid that was a bit too brutal with Jodie. Went out of control all of the sudden and bullied and tried to kill an innocent woman for seemingly no reason. Tried to kill his and Jodie's adoptive father after he abandoned them. He is also incredibly overprotective and possessive of Jodie, ruining all her date because quoting him "you don't need him you have me".
ngl this just seems like he is overprotective but Subaru should be able to SI him within a few deaths
Again not on the profile
its on the spirit physiology page linked to Beatrice
+ they just have to kill/Incap Beatrice first,
and how will they do that before beatrice who is SUB-RELATIVISTIC and sees them as statues kills them with minya or any of her bajillion spells
possession is also not soul manipulation,
Do you not know what possession is? Either way Satella will either kick them out or go outside and destroy the world
Aiden can let Subaru go at any time and it's not like he would have suffered from the possession.
doenst really matter to Satella, and as long as Subaru is contracted to beatrice he will be immune to possesion
Aiden have infinite endurance compared to Beatrice Low endurance, as soon as she is tired it's over for her.
wont happen because of the million times speed gap
Plus, Aiden is far faster than Subaru (Supersonic vs Athletic Human) and he can't dodge something that don't travel so his reactions don't matters.
Subaru's perception speed is sub rel, and he has telepathy which gives him enough time to talk to Beatrice and decide on how they will end the both of them
Also if Subaru decides to use EMM or EMT then they just straight up become immune to everything Aiden has
 
Does Jonie know how to speak japanese? Because If they don't, Subaru Social Influence wincon is not that likely to work, because Subaru just knows how to speak japanese and and some english.

If It don't work, he probally be fine since he is a little faster.
 
Does Jonie know how to speak japanese? Because If they don't, Subaru Social Influence wincon is not that likely to work, because Subaru just knows how to speak japanese and and some english.
i genuinely do not think the wiki is setup in a way so that language becomes a barrier or limitation for SI otherwise it would be a specific rule
If It don't work, he probally be fine since he is a little faster.
"a little" is the most downplayish thing you have said all day 😭
 
i genuinely do not think the wiki is setup in a way so that language becomes a barrier or limitation for SI otherwise it would be a specific rule
Well, is not said anywhere that the fighters know each other languange in SBA or in any rules, and It don't nescessary need to be a specific rule since is kinda obvious that the "Guy who only knows how to speak in Árabe, would't be able to talk with the German person".

If like, they gain a auto-translation or knowlegement of the opponent languange It would be said in SBA atleast.
"a little" is the most downplayish thing you have said all day 😭
Damn, I can't even be sarcastic anymore😔

Ok

If It don't work, he probally be fine since he speedblitz hard, is gonna be like comparing jet to snail, Subaru have a speed advantage só big my dude, he don't even need anything else👌
 
In the description you provided Subaru is explicitely the only one who can see it and at the end of season 1, Julius who is far more skilled than Subaru needed to borrow his eyes to win. With the skill, she may be able to sense him but not outright see him.
Subaru would see Aiden but it would confuse him more than anything since Aiden has the appearance of smoke. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Aiden_experiment.webp
Beatrice can kill spirits with magic
Where was this accepted ? Also spirits seem to not be intangible at all time only when dematerialized, can she kill them in that state ? Because she need NPI to both INtangibility and INcorpo to deal with Aiden
can they come back from a separate void dimension that has nothing inside of it?
Don't know and maybe not, there's only two worlds in beyond two souls (the world of the living and the infraworld).
Subaru has as many chances as he needs, and his SI has only gotten better with time. Current Subaru can rouse an entire island of gladiators and have them join his side in rioting against their own motherland
Fair but it will a good amount of try since Jodie is a big pile of trauma.
ngl this just seems like he is overprotective but Subaru should be able to SI him within a few deaths
He definitely is overprotective but not only, he litteraly had no reason to torment Kathleen, and the reason Jodie's parent abandonned her is because they feared her because of all the trouble he brought them.
its on the spirit physiology page linked to Beatrice
Beatrice explicitely has a very limited form of it.
and how will they do that before beatrice who is SUB-RELATIVISTIC and sees them as statues kills them with minya or any of her bajillion spells
Killing Jodie would be one of the worst thing they could do, not only would that close any attemp at SI but the entities have Low-Godly Regeneration so they can't really kill them.
Do you not know what possession is? Either way Satella will either kick them out or go outside and destroy the world

doenst really matter to Satella, and as long as Subaru is contracted to beatrice he will be immune to possesion
It's still not on his profile and wouldn't that count as outside help since she isn't an equipement.
wont happen because of the million times speed gap
Why would a speed gap prevent you from getting tired
Subaru's perception speed is sub rel, and he has telepathy which gives him enough time to talk to Beatrice and decide on how they will end the both of them
Also if Subaru decides to use EMM or EMT then they just straight up become immune to everything Aiden has
E.M.T is useless as magic don't exist in beyond two souls and they can't move in E.M.M.
Does Jonie know how to speak japanese?
No
 
In the description you provided Subaru is explicitely the only one who can see it and at the end of season 1, Julius who is far more skilled than Subaru needed to borrow his eyes to win. With the skill, she may be able to sense him but not outright see him.
sensing something is enough for people in rz to deal with it
Subaru would see Aiden but it would confuse him more than anything since Aiden has the appearance of smoke. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/File:Aiden_experiment.webp
I dont see why that would confuse Subaru? Spirits are way weirder
Where was this accepted ? Also spirits seem to not be intangible at all time only when dematerialized, can she kill them in that state ? Because she need NPI to both INtangibility and INcorpo to deal with Aiden
you can ONLY kill a spirit by destroying their od which is equivalent to the soul and mind
Don't know and maybe not, there's only two worlds in beyond two souls (the world of the living and the infraworld).
then the isolated void dimension probably works
Fair but it will a good amount of try since Jodie is a big pile of trauma.
literally every rz character has some form of trauma
He definitely is overprotective but not only, he litteraly had no reason to torment Kathleen, and the reason Jodie's parent abandonned her is because they feared her because of all the trouble he brought them.
yeah idk how effective SI would be on Aiden but if Jodie is Si'd i think aiden might stop from killing them at the very least
Beatrice explicitely has a very limited form of it.
the only limitation she has is her not being able to dematerialize
Killing Jodie would be one of the worst thing they could do, not only would that close any attemp at SI but the entities have Low-Godly Regeneration so they can't really kill them.
Actually all spirits have low godly as well and they can be killed so it wouldnt be that much of a challenge for beatrice
It's still not on his profile and wouldn't that count as outside help since she isn't an equipement.
not really since she exists inside of Subaru's soul
Why would a speed gap prevent you from getting tired
she doesnt get physically tired, she can only be exhausted by using magic
E.M.T is useless as magic don't exist in beyond two souls and they can't move in E.M.M.
if you have seen season 3, that is clearly smth Subaru has found a way to bypass (aka just start your movement with EMM)
He also has perfected its timing and rbd would just make it even easier for him
 
sensing something is enough for people in rz to deal with it

I dont see why that would confuse Subaru? Spirits are way weirder
Yes but he might not identify it as an enemy at first since he does not look like one. How high in the skill chain does Beatrice sit ?
you can ONLY kill a spirit by destroying their od which is equivalent to the soul and mind
That's only for the incorporeality, what I was talking about was the intangibility.
Actually all spirits have low godly as well and they can be killed so it wouldnt be that much of a challenge for beatrice
Yes but as a said there's nothing that tell me that Beatrice can destroy spirits and it's not on the profile anyway.
then the isolated void dimension probably works
Yes that part may work.
literally every rz character has some form of trauma
Yes but in this key specifically she has been hunted down for two years by the government, constantly fleeing and fending off attacks. Barely getting any rest and harrassed by otherwordly entities when she was not fighting. Plus by SBA:
"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences."

So it would still be hell to pull off.
yeah idk how effective SI would be on Aiden but if Jodie is Si'd i think aiden might stop from killing them at the very least
From the profile: "Aiden has his own free will and doesn't necessarily have to do what Jodie tell him to do."
Plus he have been hostile to people like Ryan which Jodie fully trusted. He might have stopped had she begged him but not in a context where he is aware the other side is an enemy.
the only limitation she has is her not being able to dematerialize
That's not true, Beatrice have:
Which mean she lack:
she doesnt get physically tired, she can only be exhausted by using magic
Its stated she get tired faster with magic not that she can't get tired at all, as soon as she doesn't have the stamina to run anymore she get one shot.
if you have seen season 3, that is clearly smth Subaru has found a way to bypass (aka just start your movement with EMM)
He also has perfected its timing and rbd would just make it even easier for him
Then a CRT have to be made because it's never stated on the profile:
  • E・M・M: An original "absolute defense magic" co-developed with Beatrice. Using Yin Magic, Beatrice interferes with the space-time around Subaru, side-stepping their plane of existence, and while they can't move during activation, they experiences no interference from outside the barrier. It is similar to Regulus' Authority of Greed but doesn't have the same risk, and can be used until mana runs out.
For a lot of these arguments, a CRT need to be made before they are valid.
 
Yes but he might not identify it as an enemy at first since he does not look like one. How high in the skill chain does Beatrice sit ?
should be around Echidna's level
That's only for the incorporeality, what I was talking about was the intangibility.
Incorporeality is literally a superior form of intangibility 🗿
If your true body can avoid being hit by normal physical attacks then its intangible but if your body is itself exists non-physically then its incorporeality
Yes but as a said there's nothing that tell me that Beatrice can destroy spirits and it's not on the profile anyway.
Puck killed Melakulera with magic and its been stated that there is a chance for puck to lose beatrice
Beatrice would also give Roswaal a good fight and we know he can kill spirits as well
in fact, all of this is on the spirit blog. so it IS on her profile
Yes that part may work.

Yes but in this key specifically she has been hunted down for two years by the government, constantly fleeing and fending off attacks. Barely getting any rest and harrassed by otherwordly entities when she was not fighting. Plus by SBA:
"Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences."

So it would still be hell to pull off.

From the profile: "Aiden has his own free will and doesn't necessarily have to do what Jodie tell him to do."
Plus he have been hostile to people like Ryan which Jodie fully trusted. He might have stopped had she begged him but not in a context where he is aware the other side is an enemy.
i will drop SI because Subaru wins regardless due to the speed gap
That's not true, Beatrice have:
Which mean she lack:
All of that comes from dematerialization of spirits
about the possesion thing, in ReZero there is basically a meter which allows a person to be possessed/be able to hold contract with spirits
the more affinity you have for spirits, the more likely you are to be possesed but this is also the reason why if someone is in contract with a spirit they cannot be possesed. This holds true in this regard as well.
Its stated she get tired faster with magic not that she can't get tired at all, as soon as she doesn't have the stamina to run anymore she get one shot.
Beatrice will not be running, she can fly...
and the key you are using for her literally has the both of them soloing an army of undeads without tiring for HOURS, and to make it worse you have the tier 9B Subaru with his dragon blood leg which is basically an untirable leg that can regenerate
And they cant do nothing if Beatrice just blitzstomps them both at the beginning of the fight
Then a CRT have to be made because it's never stated on the profile:
  • E・M・M: An original "absolute defense magic" co-developed with Beatrice. Using Yin Magic, Beatrice interferes with the space-time around Subaru, side-stepping their plane of existence, and while they can't move during activation, they experiences no interference from outside the barrier. It is similar to Regulus' Authority of Greed but doesn't have the same risk, and can be used until mana runs out.
For a lot of these arguments, a CRT need to be made before they are valid.
its not that they can now suddenly "move" with EMM but SUbaru can time it well enough that if he is already in movement he will be able to activate it and combo with it without any issues
 
Incorporeality is literally a superior form of intangibility 🗿
If your true body can avoid being hit by normal physical attacks then its intangible but if your body is itself exists non-physically then its incorporeality
Puck killed Melakulera with magic and its been stated that there is a chance for puck to lose beatrice
Beatrice would also give Roswaal a good fight and we know he can kill spirits as well
in fact, all of this is on the spirit blog. so it IS on her profile
You can be stronger than someone and not have the same abilities.
All of that comes from dematerialization of spirits
about the possesion thing, in ReZero there is basically a meter which allows a person to be possessed/be able to hold contract with spirits
the more affinity you have for spirits, the more likely you are to be possesed but this is also the reason why if someone is in contract with a spirit they cannot be possesed. This holds true in this regard as well.
Then it should be mentioned... You know, I'll drop this point since she has other wincons
Beatrice will not be running, she can fly...
She can fight for an infinite amount of time ?
and the key you are using for her literally has the both of them soloing an army of undeads without tiring for HOURS, and to make it worse you have the tier 9B Subaru with his dragon blood leg which is basically an untirable leg that can regenerate
She still have Low Stamina and once again where is this stated on the profiles ?
And they cant do nothing if Beatrice just blitzstomps them both at the beginning of the fight
They can't if Beatrice has no counter to Aiden.
its not that they can now suddenly "move" with EMM but SUbaru can time it well enough that if he is already in movement he will be able to activate it and combo with it without any issues
So it will allow them to be protected until Subaru cannot provide Beatrice mana anymore and it's over for them both.
 
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You can be stronger than someone and not have the same abilities.
This isnt one of those cases, both are great spirits of fire 💀
She can fight for an infinite amount of time ?

She still have Low Stamina
yk this only applies for magic right? Subaru does most of the movement and he is NOT getting tired
and once again where is this stated on the profiles ?
its the key you chose and Subaru is already superhuman in stamina
They can't if Beatrice has no counter to Aiden.
minya gg

So it will allow them to be protected until Subaru cannot provide Beatrice mana anymore and it's over for them both.
orrr it wont even be needed because Subaru and Beatrice one shot and blitz
 
This isnt one of those cases, both are great spirits of fire 💀
When did Beatrice became a great spirits of fire?
yk this only applies for magic right? Subaru does most of the movement and he is NOT getting tired

its the key you chose and Subaru is already superhuman in stamina
He is after several days of fighting.
And if Subaru is the one moving then it's even worse for them and they get blitzed. (Subaru is Athletic Human while Aiden can activate his powers at supersonic speed)
minya gg


orrr it wont even be needed because Subaru and Beatrice one shot and blitz
They won't touch Aiden and you haven't addressed the lack of NPI
 
When did Beatrice became a great spirits of fire?
They won't touch Aiden and you haven't addressed the lack of NPI
i will clear it out at once, NPI is the ability to grab intangible things, magic doesnt need NPI however
Being intangible wouldnt help aiden against time stopping crystals
He is after several days of fighting.
And if Subaru is the one moving then it's even worse for them and they get blitzed. (Subaru is Athletic Human while Aiden can activate his powers at supersonic speed)
sub rel reaction + perception speed
this is all irrelevant though because in any given scenario they cannot do anything about Subaru and Beatrice blitzing them both in speed equal and unequal
 
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i will clear it out at once, NPI is the ability to grab intangible things, magic doesnt need NPI however
Why ?
Being intangible wouldnt help aiden against time stopping crystals
The only things about time I found on her profile is that:
And it's unclear what it actually do for the first two.
sub rel reaction + perception speed
Which can only be used to dodge not run and if Aiden perceive him he can just TK him.
this is all irrelevant though because in any given scenario they cannot do anything about Subaru and Beatrice blitzing them both in speed equal and unequal
It's not if they cannot finish off their foes.

The votes right now:
Subaru: SatellaTheWoE, Fezzih_007 ? (Unclear if he is voting or not)
Jodie:
Incon:

Eating popcorn in the background: DaReaperMan

By the way a bit out of topic but is there any 9A, Low 7B or High 6C in Re:Zero ?
 
Why ?

The only things about time I found on her profile is that:
because magic is mana transformed into an attack and mana is a non physical thing
And it's unclear what it actually do for the first two.
if you dont understand, minya is basically a spell that crystalizes "time stop" and those crystals are then launched at an enemy. Characters hit by said crystals get their time stopped and shatter to pieces, this also bypasses any form of physical regeneration as undead are unable to regenerate from this
Which can only be used to dodge not run and if Aiden perceive him he can just TK him.

It's not if they cannot finish off their foes.
Beatrice can kill puck who is a spirit
The votes right now:
Subaru: SatellaTheWoE, Fezzih_007 ? (Unclear if he is voting or not)
Jodie:
Incon:

Eating popcorn in the background: DaReaperMan

By the way a bit out of topic but is there any 9A, Low 7B or High 6C in Re:Zero ?
there are some 9As like Rom, Felt, and ton chin kan
there isnt a low 7B or high 6C but a lot of the 7A's have dura negation and some of them are 6C with magic

we also have the archbishops who are haxed, so if you want to have a matchup you can choose between Regulus, Sirius, or Ley Batenkaitos
 
because magic is mana transformed into an attack and mana is a non physical thing
That doesn't mean it can interact with non physical things.
Beatrice can kill puck who is a spirit
Then it should be added on the profile before it can be used in vs.
there are some 9As like Rom, Felt, and ton chin kan
there isnt a low 7B or high 6C but a lot of the 7A's have dura negation and some of them are 6C with magic

we also have the archbishops who are haxed, so if you want to have a matchup you can choose between Regulus, Sirius, or Ley Batenkaitos
Okay it was to see if anyone could have a debatable match against her. Her profile is nearly done, only missing a few abilities and resistances but whenever I think of a matchup for her it's nearly always a stomp for or against her. Perhaps Sirius could fit if she can beat her before she go for her reality warping.
 
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That doesn't mean it can interact with non physical things.

She did not understand what had happened. But unfortunately, she immediately realized she had lost something. The contract between spirit and spirit arts user was a connection between souls.

If one of the connected parties were to be lost, Emilia would immediately feel it.

That was why she understood that her lesser spirits had faced the pouring rays of heat to protect her, and consequently had their mana ripped away after which their Ods burned.

She knew right away that she had lost an irreplaceable connection.
Even when burned by heat rays beyond imagination, a spirit’s body would turn black or anything of the sort.

Unless the attack penetrated the defenses of the mana composing their body and harmed their Od, the spirit would appear to be in perfect condition.

However, if their Od were to sustain fatal damage, the spirit’s existence would crumble away like sand.

Just like Melakuera, whose Od was crushed by Puck just moments before.

ah yes, "this non physical energy which has been shown to interact with non physical things cant interact with non physical things"
pls hear yourself speak
Then it should be added on the profile before it can be used in vs.
you dont need to add things like who won against who and Magic isnt NPI
Okay it was to see if anyone could have a debatable match against her. Her profile is nearly done, only missing a few abilities and resistances but whenever I think of a matchup for her it's nearly always a stomp for or against her. Perhaps Sirius could fit if she can beat her before she go for her reality warping.
is her madness resistance layered and against mind body and soul?
 
ah yes, "this non physical energy which has been shown to interact with non physical things cant interact with non physical things"
pls hear yourself speak

you dont need to add things like who won against who and Magic isnt NPI
It's needed if you wanna use abilities from it and also as said before she would lack one type of NPI.
is her madness resistance layered and against mind body and soul?
Her Res to Type 2 is layered (1 layer) but not the one to Type 3.
In general every abilities which comes from her magic or resistance to it are layered (The layer are also accepted in the evaluation thread)
 
It's needed if you wanna use abilities from it and also as said before she would lack one type of NPI.
killing a spirit means the destruction of its mind and soul, you haven't put forward a way for aidan to survive that which means he dies, its that simple
Her Res to Type 2 is layered (1 layer) but not the one to Type 3.
In general every abilities which comes from her magic or resistance to it are layered (The layer are also accepted in the evaluation thread)
Sirius has +2 layers of madness manipulation and its activated from sensing her
 
Aidan "apparently" will not be affected by said magic because "he cant be interacted with" (bro is NOT Regular Cornyass)
They doesn't need to be Regulus, I don't see how that's complicated, they don't have NPI they can't interact with those that are both incorporeal and intangible.
the side women is literally useless
Just lIke in the game. Seriously without the thread between the two preventing them from getting too far from each other Aiden could nearly solo the game by himself. The game would be pretty boring though since Aiden is mute.

However should she be killed, she basically turn into a second Aiden.

They also have Divination to be aware of the best course of action. The entities also comes with Low-Godly and Soul Regeneration and she doesn't seem to have an ability to kill them since the killing spirits part is again not accepted.

Also they wouldn't be able to dodge forever, so sooner or later they are cooked.
 
they don't have NPI they can't interact with those that are both incorporeal and intangible.
They can't grab ghosts or anything, but they won't be fighting that way. They use magic so the NPI doesn't matter.

Minya, for example, freezes and shatters its target's time. Would you argue their "time" is intangible?
 
They can't grab ghosts or anything, but they won't be fighting that way. They use magic so the NPI doesn't matter.

Minya, for example, freezes and shatters its target's time. Would you argue their "time" is intangible?
Magic in itself does not not bypass intangibility, from the Incorporeality page what does bypass it by itself are:
So for your example Minya could work since it's time manip but it would be counterproductive as:
  1. Killing Jodie just makes her stronger and kill any chances Subaru would have of SI.
  2. The Regen Neg of Minya is not potent enough for entities who as stated above have Low-Godly and Soul Regeneration.
Only Intangibility with Phasing as a type is assumed to be touchable by immaterial energy based attack by default, AIden is blatantly type Immaterial although I forgot to add the type in the Revamp since I'm stupid.
 
They doesn't need to be Regulus, I don't see how that's complicated, they don't have NPI they can't interact with those that are both incorporeal and intangible.
nuh uh
Just lIke in the game. Seriously without the thread between the two preventing them from getting too far from each other Aiden could nearly solo the game by himself. The game would be pretty boring though since Aiden is mute.

However should she be killed, she basically turn into a second Aiden.

They also have Divination to be aware of the best course of action. The entities also comes with Low-Godly and Soul Regeneration
will based soul regeneration when mind and soul destruction
and she doesn't seem to have an ability to kill them since the killing spirits part is again not accepted.
What do you mean, not accepted? the author literally said so in a qna and the above given scans only back it further.
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Magic in itself does not not bypass intangibility, from the Incorporeality page what does bypass it by itself are:
So for your example Minya could work since it's time manip but it would be counterproductive as:
  1. Killing Jodie just makes her stronger and kill any chances Subaru would have of SI.
  2. The Regen Neg of Minya is not potent enough for entities who as stated above have Low-Godly and Soul Regeneration.
Minya when targetted at the Od would absolutely shatter Aidan to pieces, the only reason it didnt work on Elsa is because she has stupidly good regen and her physical body was the one which got shattered and not her soul. In the same scene Beatrice was surprise attacked by Elsa and was killed, Beatrice also doesnt necessarily need to use minya and could use a lot of other magic which could destroy the soul
Only Intangibility with Phasing as a type is assumed to be touchable by immaterial energy based attack by default, AIden is blatantly type Immaterial although I forgot to add the type in the Revamp since I'm stupid.
again being touchable isnt needed when dealing with magic capable of destroying souls
 
Wasn't Elsa wearing the magic negating cape when Beatrice attacked her? Roswaal probably gave it to her knowing Subaru and Beatrice would collab
 
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