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Renji is not stronger and he himself would prove it. Even if not, this is what you call outlier feat not gremmy's one.
Let's hope something better for byakuya.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Let's hope something better for byakuya.
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Doesn’t jugram have a statement in the SJ version of chapter 660 calling him the strongest enemy ever up to that point?
Why doesn’t the wiki use that?
Why doesn’t the wiki use that?
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Who?
But he has statement of being the balancer of the world.
Also I'm curious jugram being the masked ruler, how that would be treated
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It's just a WSJ editor hype statement, it's not canon to the story whatsoever
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There is no proof Yhwach got stronger - there is proof against this. We know that all Yhwach is doing is he's regaining power he had. Regain means getting back something he had before. That means he had that same power before, that which he's still in the process of regaining.
"They failed to recognize him"? Like what are you f*cking on about? Royd has literal powers to copy that mfs looks identically... what are you on bro...
If the cross was crumbled, he would've died. That's the entire point of the weak point... Also the fact that it was frozen already disproves your point. he froze Gerard's body, then easily cleaved through it.
Because about Renji and Byakuya, she's making an assumption that they'll be up to par after their training (which ends up being wrong), while with Yhwach she's saying that based on what she's seen from him.
I guess that's a fair point insofar as my wording, but in general, the point is she's pointing out examples of him having lost or narrowly won because of his supression, which is why they also show Ichigo.
Because it's not a statement from the SJ version of chapter 660, it's an editor's note, and those are insanely inconsistent, even internally. If I had access to my discord, I'd send like 10 stupid editor's notes which hype people up like that.
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I was watching Cour 3, Episode 1 in English dub and noticed what might be a “new” scene that wasn’t in the Japanese version. During Ichibei’s ritual dance with the Viking-style song, there’s a moment where we see Yhwach’s boots covered in black, seemingly held in place as he struggles to move but can’t.
Is this new? I don’t remember seeing this part before.
Is this new? I don’t remember seeing this part before.
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That was in the sub as well. Also pretty sure that the song was a Kagura dance, not a Viking song.
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Regain? What time you they were talking about. Yhwach was present in primordial world as well. . It's the other way. Him getting stronger. If he had this level of strength thousand years ago, he would still easy win bankai yamamoto without almighty. Not to mention ichibei took away power from him.
So you don’t have clear answer. In fact yamamoto has no way of taking away power.
All we know when yhwach regained his strength he was able to use 3 pupil almighty which he wasn’t against ichibei in the past. Likely they are reffering to time prior to that.
Exactly. If they can't even identify, the assumption was wrong in the first place.
Well we see hogyoku getting erased and it still was not destroyed. So you are trying to misinterpret kubo's this statement as well just like unohana's.
It just can not be destroyed by conventional means.
All these statement come together. But you are saying she is sure about a part but another part is assumption? Laughable
Yeah, they show fullbring ichigo who he never fought against. He didn’t even fight renji. Putting all of these characters with different power level is wierd af. Also he didn’t lose narrowly against royd.
As I've said entire interpretation and wording of justification both are heavily questionable.
Fair. Let's see how anime handle this.
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PerezosoUlixes
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Why would it be an outlier for someone who went through Squad 0's training, to be just stronger than other people that didn't?
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So what if he went through sz training huh?
Rukia undergone that training as well. At most it can make these Lieutenant class high captain level. Flat out scaling to SZ would be funny as hell.
I guess people will start scaling grimjow to reio candidate level due to ichigo's expression after seeing him. Might exchange blow in future. Ichigo couldn’t track grimjow askin don't forget that.
Whatever these things can not always guarantee similar scaling.
PerezosoUlixes
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He wasn't present in the Primordial World. He was explicitly born 200 years prior to the war against Soul Society 1000 years ago. And also, we see that he didn't know about the way all things went for Adnyeus and he also didn't know how Soul King actually looks like.
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Oh. He was present in primordial world.
May be his memory was wiped out.
Again beside reio, only thing that took away power from him was ichibei not yamamoto.
So yeah, yamamoto, unohana never had correct idea about yhwach's true power.
PerezosoUlixes
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1- In order to be that strong, Rukia would have to show that kind of feats.
2- "At most" is not something we have ever seen nor was ever stated by any character within the series. As far as we know, they can be as strong as Kubo wants them to be.
3- You have to be kidding if you really think those situations are in any way comparable to Renji's situation. Not only Grimmjow is the kind of people that would try to fight anyone, even if they are way stronger than him, as we see when he opposed Ulquiorra and got his hand destroyed, or also in CFYOW when he wanted to fight Ichibē. And Ichigo losing them is due to him not wanting to separate from the group, so he obviously is just running at the same pace as everyone.
PerezosoUlixes
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No, you are making an assumption based on circumstances that don't prove your point and trying to glue together with another assumption that is not even stated nor insinuated by the narrative. I can give you that nothing is certain up to this point and I easily could be contradicted by the anime, but that doesn't mean we can assume anything we want just because. If you believe that he existed in the primordial world, you have to give more explanations or justifications than "maybe" he lost his memory.
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Sounds like you’re making a completely arbitrary assumption here.
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Volstendig is an evolution of Letzstil and as shown when Quilge first used it, it is a technology, not a skill, a device is needed for it. But I imagine it's not restricted to gloves, as not all Sternrriter wore gloves. I don't see why Yhwach would feel the need to have one or why the Soul King would have a Volstendig device.
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ReaperAndBlues
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Uryu, in fact, did not need gloves.
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These two pages are so peak. Still can't believe people say that Ichigo and Orihime had no build up.
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I personally theorize that the cross on Quilge's glove is the real device, all Sterns must carry a cross like that somewhere, pinned to their clothes or carrying it in their pocket, it doesn't matter. Considering Uryu isn't the only one who doesn't wear gloves. This seems most likely to me. Or they carry the glove in their pockets.
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Still to this day one of the most innocent, sweetest and just plain beautiful love confession scenes I've ever saw
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I do think trying to kiss someone while they're asleep is mega weird but nonetheless the scene is sweet
ReaperAndBlues
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How can people hate Orihime? She's such a great character. This scene genuinely made me feel sad.
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I agree in general, but in this particular situation, it's much more forgivable. For one, Orihime didn't actually kiss him. She stopped before doing it. And she was mentally distressed. From her perspective, she was about to leave behind everything that she knew to live in a completely different realm inhabited by monsters.
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"I am sacrificing everything, my friendships with the people I love, my dreams and desires, even my one true love. I want to take something, even if it's selfish. But I know I can't."
That's not weird. That's simply human. The fact she even stopped herself shows just how truly pure she is.
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Yeah, it was selfish, it's simply human, but it's still very weird. And it's good that she stopped herself, the rest of the scene is sweet. I just think that trying to kiss an unconscious person is just icky no matter what. It's still represented as a flaw, so it doesn't make it a bad scene.
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I stopped myself from s€xually harassing my wounded and unconscious friend, it's crazy how pure and innocent I am 
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Crazy out-of-context quote I just screenshotted.
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I don’t believe it was ever technology. It’s more of a evolution of that power. Pernida went Vollstandig and it’s part of the Soul King and doesn’t have gloves. Same with Gerard.
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really a good time to be making use of the reply functionI stopped myself from s€xually harassing my wounded and unconscious friend, it's crazy how pure and innocent I am
Karabach-barabach
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What did he made fun of btw?
Karabach-barabach
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Oh, lmao
ReaperAndBlues
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Bro was playing with death because they didn't push a button. Crazyreally a good time to be making use of the reply function
DaMonkeMan
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I stopped myself from s€xually harassing my wounded and unconscious friend, it's crazy how pure and innocent I am
ReaperAndBlues
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Nice imbed
DaMonkeMan
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I'm "imbed" with your mother
ReaperAndBlues
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I'm gonna "imbed" you into the ground like Luffy did to Doflamingo
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