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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

The_Unknown_Warrior1 said:
Not going to lie: the part where he asked what Toriyama would think who would win is unironcially disrespectful in my opinion.

I mean the guy he was interviewing is an animator for Dragon Ball? I don't think the animator's job is to give a shit who's stronger than who, but what to animate.
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They asked lot of questions, even who is stronger between SSj4 and SSj Blue, and the animator didn't quite want to give any clear answer.
 
To address this quickly:
Well this conclusion is fine by me, before this is closed. For clarification, what would be hypertimeline for those who have been using it in their profiles, should either be an actual low 1-C space or another time axis by our definition?
In which case if they do not fit either criteria, they can be removed or downgraded?
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I really wonder what makes people use a made-up word that doesn't come from their respective fiction on profiles, if it isn't officially established on the wiki. But I guess that's besides the point.

To answer your question: It should be removed from the profiles and they should instead say what their fiction actually explains. What that is depends on the fiction in question.
I assume no rating have been given based on this basis alone, given that it never established to begin with, but if they have for some reason the CRTs would presumably have to be redone while referencing the additional timeline / higher dimension / multiverse standards this time and seeing what their particular verse's ideas best fit to.
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Ratings have been given based on this alone actually, here are few threads in which this threads are used.

Arrowverse CRT: Hypertimeline​


Ben 10: Hypertimeline and Uncountable Branching Timelines​


DBS Timelines reduction application thread​


Summer Time Rendering: Possible 6-D cosmology revision​

There are many more of this type of CRT which uses hypertimeline which was why I suggested actual standards for them.
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I don't think the conclusion of this thread is that any of the suggested verses need re-evaluations. From my impression, DontTalkDT was led into believing that the verses advocating for higher time dimensions while using the word "hypertimeline" used some sort of fallacy where they based their arguments around some ill-defined concept of "hypertime," rather than the wiki standards. Think of how some people argue for upgrades based on platonic concepts, and spend more time explaining how plato's philosophy works and is 1-A by definition, rather than citing how their verse's form of platonism fits the wiki standards.

However, this is misleading as all of the Low 1-C verses above deliberately cited the wiki standards when writing their explanations, and none of them cited their personal definitions of hypertime. Overall, I think this is a misunderstanding and nothingburger so nothing will come out of it, but I could always be wrong... these are just my thoughts.
 
Also, forgot, Broku72 literally reminded me that in GT, Hellfighter 17 was powered by Hell itself and that along with the other 17 their very powers merged the living world with the afertlife, this should make them Uni+ at lowball due to affecting the universal structures as a whole and Low multiversal at mid-ball as these were like 3 Universes put together.

Crazy how feats like this get forgotten by fans, I honestly think we should put this feat as a justification in the two GT 17s and Super 17's profiles tho
 
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ProfectusInfinity said:
To address this quickly:



I don't think the conclusion of this thread is that any of the suggested verses need re-evaluations. From my impression, DontTalkDT was led into believing that the verses advocating for higher time dimensions while using the word "hypertimeline" used some sort of fallacy where they based their arguments around some ill-defined concept of "hypertime," rather than the wiki standards. Think of how some people argue for upgrades based on platonic concepts, and spend more time explaining how plato's philosophy works and is 1-A by definition, rather than citing how their verse's form of platonism fits the wiki standards.

However, this is misleading as all of the Low 1-C verses above deliberately cited the wiki standards when writing their explanations, and none of them cited their personal definitions of hypertime. Overall, I think this is a misunderstanding and nothingburger so nothing will come out of it, but I could always be wrong... these are just my thoughts.
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Surprised they didn't mentioned Sonic while they were at it
 
Huh, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think I've ever read that cosmology page before. That applies to the main canon, right?
 
Phsccarvalho said:
I think at this point it's better for you to define what "main canon" would be.
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"Main canon" can be whatever I want
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I love how the blog includes the Room of Spirit and Time as part of Universe 7's structure when it is iterated three times that the Subspace does not belong to any part of the world.
 
If the heavily weakened, bifurcated, was just crushed by Goku's Angry Kamehameha Frieza scaled to any significant feat like, say, Namek's destruction, how would that affect him? Does it scale to, like, the weakest possible healthy Final Form Frieza (i.e., against Vegeta and co.)?
 
i sometimes wonder if i really hate dragon ball, or it is just me rejecting the idea of actually liking it and not admit that i actually like it...sometimes i feel like Amaranta Buendia, who even if she didn't love anyone, she could not still live be apart from the thing she loved...except that it is not a person.
 
Alexander said:
i sometimes wonder if i really hate dragon ball, or it is just me rejecting the idea of actually liking it and not admit that i actually like it...sometimes i feel like Amaranta Buendia, who even if she didn't love anyone, she could not still live be apart from the thing she loved...except that it is not a person.
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Seems like this thread got locked and rejected so L1C Dragon Ball is safe unless Stryum tries to find another to downgrade the verse

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Hypertime(line) Standards Clarification (STAFF THREAD)

Got permission from @Firestorm808 to make this staff thread Recently, this concept have been used a lot by different verses, and going through the standard, we have vague description of both but no clear cut standard to what qualifies for this and what does not. HYPERTIME(LINE) Hypertime logic...
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Johner2133451 said:
Seems like this thread got locked and rejected so L1C Dragon Ball is safe unless Stryum tries to find another to downgrade the verse

vsbattles.com

Hypertime(line) Standards Clarification (STAFF THREAD)

Got permission from @Firestorm808 to make this staff thread Recently, this concept have been used a lot by different verses, and going through the standard, we have vague description of both but no clear cut standard to what qualifies for this and what does not. HYPERTIME(LINE) Hypertime logic...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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at least i can agree on something...Pain is annoying man, i will not forgive him for trying to prevent Fire Force from getting upgrades.
 
Nullflowerblush said:
If the heavily weakened, bifurcated, was just crushed by Goku's Angry Kamehameha Frieza scaled to any significant feat like, say, Namek's destruction, how would that affect him? Does it scale to, like, the weakest possible healthy Final Form Frieza (i.e., against Vegeta and co.)?
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Fourth Zenkai Vegeta could already nuke Namek with a charged attack, one that said weakest Frieza easily kicked away.
 
Johner2133451 said:
Seems like this thread got locked and rejected so L1C Dragon Ball is safe unless Stryum tries to find another to downgrade the verse

vsbattles.com

Hypertime(line) Standards Clarification (STAFF THREAD)

Got permission from @Firestorm808 to make this staff thread Recently, this concept have been used a lot by different verses, and going through the standard, we have vague description of both but no clear cut standard to what qualifies for this and what does not. HYPERTIME(LINE) Hypertime logic...
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Laughing so hard at this, they tried to unmask DB and failed.
 
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