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Askin vs Sasuke

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Speed equalized

Both at their peak keys
 
Idk one shot values but if sasuke is already a tier higher and has ways to make that.MUCHHHH larger. A chidori or like sussano attack make end the fight, he can also absorb attacks, has the precog advantage, repel attacks and numerous other hax

Also what is askins death dealing hax classified as because sasuke has alot of resistances
 
Askin does have the poison factor and possibly gaining invulnerability from Sasuke's attacks
Sasuke should be able to realize the poison pretty easily and has ways to counter. His invulnerability takes time which considering he'd get one shotted, it doesn't help much.
 
Idk one shot values but if sasuke is already a tier higher and has ways to make that.MUCHHHH larger. A chidori or like sussano attack make end the fight, he can also absorb attacks, has the precog advantage, repel attacks and numerous other hax

Also what is askins death dealing hax classified as because sasuke has alot of resistances
Sasuke should be able to realize the poison pretty easily and has ways to counter. His invulnerability takes time which considering he'd get one shotted, it doesn't help much.
Could Sasuke tank Askin's poison? It has resistance negation which even worked on Ichigo despite ichigo resists poison
 
Could Sasuke tank Askin's poison? It has resistance negation which even worked on Ichigo despite ichigo resists poison
Sasuke can see the poison and can understand how the ability works. I'm not saying he'll go there and tank it but Sasuke can one shot without touching him.

He'd play smart.
 
Sasuke can see the poison and can understand how the ability works. I'm not saying he'll go there and tank it but Sasuke can one shot without touching him.

He'd play smart.
So would you say this match is a stomp or fine? If stomp, I can lower Sasuke's key to Fourth Shinobi War
 
That aside
Kid named genjustu:
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So would lowering Sasuke's key to fourth shinobi war is fine then? He would have the ap disavantage but has the speed factor
Does it really change anything? Sasuke doesn't get any new speed amps since like, the 5ks.
And his genjutsu is also probably enough since around 5ks if not sooner.
 
Does it really change anything? Sasuke doesn't get any new speed amps since like, the 5ks.
And his genjutsu is also probably enough since around 5ks if not sooner.
Depends on if Sasuke gets too close to Askin since Askin has that passive reactive evolution
 
Sasuke's ability is far better for these kinda abilities no? He can just see the poison etc.
Ichigo's information anaylsis allows him to know the functionalities of his enemies abilities


Even then, he was unable to use it to counter Askin's hax
 
Askin needs to survive the initial attack in order to gain the invulnerability to it. There's a few dozen time's difference between their ap's. Sasuke also has layered mind hax that Askin has no answer for.
 
Ichigo's information anaylsis allows him to know the functionalities of his enemies abilities


Even then, he was unable to use it to counter Askin's hax
Sasuke sees the poison itself and acts upon it, not just the ability. He doesn't just try to understand the ability of the opponent.
 
Askin does have the poison factor and possibly gaining invulnerability from Sasuke's attacks
He'd have to start poisoning chakra immediately for the poison hax to matter and invulnerability requires him to survive the attack first for it to go through. From what I'm seeing on their profiles, Sasuke without the usage of Susanoo has 25x's higher ap than that of Askin with Hasshein.
 
Oh can you counter this argument then
Sasuke figuring out doesn’t change a thing. He is also well within askin's range.

Askin is more intelligent as well, went around extraordinary genius. Just a genius won't be giving him any trouble at all.

I think we should properly work on intelligence section my guy. Naruto being treated to be more intelligent than Ichigo just seems ridiculous. Basic Bleach shinigami should be comparable to naruto verse prodigies. Whatever we are just too lazy to work on that section cordially 😆
 
Sasuke sees the poison itself and acts upon it, not just the ability. He doesn't just try to understand the ability of the opponent.
Askin technically doesn’t even use poison.
Him understanding the ability not gonna help him anyway. He simply doesn’t posses any counter.

Gift ball and it's over.
Since it's speed equal, askin would blind sasuke or drop sasuke down with any type of lethal dose long before thinking of suicidal attack which sasuke has no answer to anyway.
 
Askin technically doesn’t even use poison.
Him understanding the ability not gonna help him anyway. He simply doesn’t posses any counter.

Gift ball and it's over.
Since it's speed equal, askin would blind sasuke or drop sasuke down with any type of lethal dose long before thinking of suicidal attack which sasuke has no answer to anyway.
Askin is not tagging sasuke and his shunshin, chidori Amp and further higher reaction with sharingan plus his teleportation.
 
If Genjutsu does work on souls, Sasuke should have soul manipulation in his sharingan profile
We are waiting on UchihaSlayer to drop the Chakra page so it can be officially added to profiles. Besides nard verse profiles are currently outdated and missing abilities, resistance and layers
 
We are waiting on UchihaSlayer to drop the Chakra page so it can be officially added to profiles. Besides nard verse profiles are currently outdated and missing abilities, resistance and layers
Oh then guess you can't use the genjutsu arg because as staff mentioned, you need the abilities on their profiles officially in order to be used in vs matches
That aside
Kid named genjustu:
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Can't do that here if the CRT hasn't been applled
 
askin would blind sasuke
Sasuke can perceive size down to the microscopic level, his enhanced sight would allow him to see Gift Ring and dodge it accordingly.

Askin is more intelligent as well
Nothing on his profile implies that 👍

Even with the Blut Vene stack, Sasuke's weakest attacks are 76x's stronger than Askin's most durable form. Sasuke also has like 4 layers of mind hax that Askin has no answers for. Not to mention, Sasuke can further amp his speed with things like Chidori and Susanoo.


Fight doesn't even go to the point where Askin uses Gift Ball Deluxe, and if it does, Sasuke would one tap it or simply leave the area with Amenotijikara.
 
Askin is not tagging sasuke and his shunshin, chidori Amp and further higher reaction with sharingan plus his teleportation.
Askin folds sasuke without tagging him.

You should see my previous responses. Without speed equal askin gets blitzed. With speed equal sasuke is getting cooked
 
Sasuke can perceive size down to the microscopic level, his enhanced sight would allow him to see Gift Ring and dodge it accordingly.


Nothing on his profile implies that 👍

Even with the Blut Vene stack, Sasuke's weakest attacks are 76x's stronger than Askin's most durable form. Sasuke also has like 4 layers of mind hax that Askin has no answers for. Not to mention, Sasuke can further amp his speed with things like Chidori and Susanoo.


Fight doesn't even go to the point where Askin uses Gift Ball Deluxe, and if it does, Sasuke would one tap it or simply leave the area with Amenotijikara.

A top tier shinigami like urahara's invisibility perception > anything naruto verse can dish out in that category.

His profile does imply him giving hard time and almost slaughtering an extraordinary genius. You should comprehend better.

I am not even arguing ap here or denying sasuke can't one shot askin. Prove genjutsu can affect minds of soul.

Exactly he kills sasuke without that. Sasuke can not leave deluxe. Urahara had to reconstruct the structure on macro quantum level.
Sasuke is cooked the moment battle begins
 
A top tier shinigami like urahara's invisibility perception > anything naruto verse can dish out in that category.
Gift Ring doesn't have invisibility hax attached to it, from what I'm seeing, it only has Limited Size Manipulation, Teleportation & Death Manipulation.
His profile does imply him giving hard time and almost slaughtering an extraordinary genius. You should comprehend better.
You are saying Askin is more intelligent because he gave an extraordinary genius a harder time in a fight? You are conflating intelligence with power and choosing to ignore the context of that fight, Kisuke wasn't having issue's with Askin because he was ridiculous smart or anything, but because of his ability to kill body parts and become invulnerable to things just after experiencing them. Being able to nearly beat someone who is insanely intelligent doesn't necessarily mean that you are as well.

I am not even arguing ap here or denying sasuke can't one shot askin. Prove genjutsu can affect minds of soul.
Here you go piggy back riding on the one of the multiple win cons provided for Sasuke, if you yourself are not denying that Sasuke can one shot Askin, why does the battle go further then that?
Sasuke can not leave deluxe.
Sasuke's attacks are vastly stronger than anything Gift Ball Deluxe can sustain, he one shots Askin.
 
We are waiting on UchihaSlayer to drop the Chakra page so it can be officially added to profiles. Besides nard verse profiles are currently outdated and missing abilities, resistance and layers
Honestly, that's the first I heard of it. Not to derail, is there a CRT or discord server where that's being in the work?

Also, wasn't there an old CRT that downgraded the part 1 cast to 9-B since 8-B doesn't seem to be justified anymore? Because Sakura and Ino and the cast scaling to Sasuke's Fireball is ridiculous.
 
Honestly, that's the first I heard of it. Not to derail, is there a CRT or discord server where that's being in the work?
It’s been in the making for a while. I think it was in the KingTempest CRT where he proposed NPI and soul manipulation for select characters that this came up.

As far as I know UchihaSlayer is the only one working on that page, so if you want to know more about it you should approach him directly
 
Controlling the mind of soul like beings does not give you soul manipulation. Also unconventional resistance doesn't help you against 5layerz of MM. Speed equalised and sasuke has 2 blitz worthy amps and a reaction speed higher than both. Not to mention teleportation, I find it very hard to even believe askin can touch him. With his sharingan he'd easily see askin attacks are deadly and avoid it. I don't know where the askin blitz is coming from but if you're arguing that it makes this match invalid per vs rules.

A shock wave from assume fist not to talk of the weakest fire style turns askin to paste, the ap gap is ridiculous. This just feels like a stomp for so like this should be closed. If it's not then l'm voting sasuke
 
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