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Green Gremlin vs your Doom (Tatsumaki vs Doom) (One-Punch Man vs Mashle)

Kachon123 said:
Superior LS doesn't stop you from being sent to space. Only from being crushed, twisted, things of that sort. Lifting Strength can't be used to anchor yourself to the ground unless you do so via grip strength. Which in that case Tatsumaki would just send the piece of the ground he'd grabbing onto into space as well.
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Yet his superior LS that translates to his telekinesis can stop it no? Just by acting as a counteracting force greater than Tatsumaki's own power, like creating a telekinetic barrier above the both of them, like how his little brother Domima did so to stop an attack coming down onto him.
Kachon123 said:
Doom's regeneration is garbage all things considered. Tatsumaki doesn't need to twist Doom to deal fatal damage. The sheer and raw pressure as a byproduct of just activating her abilities cause internal damage to significant degrees and Tatsumaki already ha superior AP to begin with where she can one-shot people who scale to Doom's level to a cellular level. He's getting absolutely cooked.
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Saying it's garbage feels a bit brainrotted in a way, it's far from being garbage. It's not some giga op "regenerate from some puddles of blood" regeneration, but the demon hearts allow the brothers to casually continue on after having their heads turned 180°, their brains cleaved through, their bodies maimed and mutilated, that ain't bad at all, much less garbage. But I digress, my memory is hazy on OPM to remember this moment (considering I haven't touched the manga with its poor state all together), could you show the moment? Either way, if Doom's starting at his maximum output, it means he's been pushed to his full power, which means he's going to cast his summons + Thirds right off the bat to fight against Tatsumaki with a hundred of himself.
 
Sending any into space is out of the question because on the battlefield there is a tier 2-B magical barrier that prevents this, the battlefield is entirely limited to the underground
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Yet his superior LS that translates to his telekinesis can stop it no? Just by acting as a counteracting force greater than Tatsumaki's own power, like creating a telekinetic barrier above the both of them, like how his little brother Domima did so to stop an attack coming down onto him.
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If he creates a telekinetic barrier, Tatsumaki would just reverse it, which would instantly oneshot him from the added pressure of both his and Tatsumaki's attacks.
AnAverageUsername said:
Saying it's garbage feels a bit brainrotted in a way, it's far from being garbage. It's not some giga op "regenerate from some puddles of blood" regeneration, but the demon hearts allow the brothers to casually continue on after having their heads turned 180°, their brains cleaved through, their bodies maimed and mutilated, that ain't bad at all, much less garbage. But I digress, my memory is hazy on OPM to remember this moment (considering I haven't touched the manga with its poor state all together), could you show the moment? Either way, if Doom's starting at his maximum output, it means he's been pushed to his full power, which means he's going to cast his summons + Thirds right off the bat to fight against Tatsumaki with a hundred of himself.
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Here. It's not brainrotted "all things considered." That level of regen won't be helping him when Tatsumaki was able to cellularly fodderize someone with superior regeneration than Doom. The hundreds of clones get sent to space.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Sending any into space is out of the question because on the battlefield there is a tier 2-B magical barrier that prevents this, the battlefield is entirely limited to the underground
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It works the exact same way in the reverse and that's how the clones were defeated in the Mashle Manga so this is even more thematic.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
Wouldn't Doom counter her TK the moment he sees it happening?
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How effective is it? Just saying "he can counter a technique when he sees it once" is extremely vague, even human Garou has the same exact statement.

What is his way of counter + does psychic ability count as technique in total?
 
Kachon123 said:
If he creates a telekinetic barrier, Tatsumaki would just reverse it, which would instantly oneshot him from the added pressure of both his and Tatsumaki's attacks.
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Reverse it how? Any example of this? Ditto on what I said about my reading status on OPM.
Kachon123 said:
Here. It's not brainrotted "all things considered." That level of regen won't be helping him when Tatsumaki was able to cellularly fodderize someone with superior regeneration than Doom. The hundreds of clones get sent to space.
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That's where the cellular stuff comes from, nice, but I was looking for an example where Tatsumaki has one shot via her mere presence, you know? And again, saying regeneration that allows you to survive getting your entire body gored and your brain severely damaged is brainrotted, it's still a great level of regeneration to have, I don't see how it's bad. Compared to OPM it might not be the greatest, but in the grand scheme of fiction it's far from being bad. I don't know, this wording has me befuddled is all.
Kachon123 said:
It works the exact same way in the reverse and that's how the clones were defeated in the Mashle Manga so this is even more thematic.
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Well that situation is different, they were BFRd due to being pushed through the ground of a floating fortress miles above the ground, which isn't the situation here. Just wanna clear that up.

MrTayman616 said:
"Using his maximum output is only temporary" How long does it last?
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We don't know how long it would last on its own, because he immediately goes onto using his Summons and Thirds right after, two powers that are notoriously taxing to use unless you have infinite magic like Innocent Zero. Even then, he still went on to battle Mash for an extended amount of time before having his clones BFRd, and then getting hit with a Blue Destiny neck breaker.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Reverse it how? Any example of this? Ditto on what I said about my reading status on OPM.
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Like this one
AnAverageUsername said:
We don't know how long it would last on its own, because he immediately goes onto using his Summons and Thirds right after, two powers that are notoriously taxing to use unless you have infinite magic like Innocent Zero. Even then, he still went on to battle Mash for an extended amount of time before having his clones BFRd, and then getting hit with a Blue Destiny neck breaker.
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(y). So i'll just assume "a brief moment" like how he stated.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
That's where the cellular stuff comes from, nice, but I was looking for an example where Tatsumaki has one shot via her mere presence, you know?
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Kachon123 said:
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AnAverageUsername said:
And again, saying regeneration that allows you to survive getting your entire body gored and your brain severely damaged is brainrotted, it's still a great level of regeneration to have, I don't see how it's bad. Compared to OPM it might not be the greatest, but in the grand scheme of fiction it's far from being bad. I don't know, this wording has me befuddled is all.
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I didn't say his regeneration isn't impressive. I said that against Tatsumaki it's not.

AnAverageUsername said:
Well that situation is different, they were BFRd due to being pushed through the ground of a floating fortress miles above the ground, which isn't the situation here. Just wanna clear that up.
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There's no real difference.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Why would it being a "bubble barrier" make it like that.

The shape of it doesn't change barrier's ability.
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No, I'm saying it being so destructive against Tatsumaki was because it was a "bubble" around her, because with it reversed it would have the pressure crush her on all sides, right? Sorry if I worded that wrong initially.

Oh, this that same scene then?
Kachon123 said:
I didn't say his regeneration isn't impressive. I said that against Tatsumaki it's not.
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Alright, that's understandable then
Kachon123 said:
There's no real difference.
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I mean at least they can use something to climb out then

Honestly I dont get why Doom never showed off levitation when he's supposedly on the same level as Wahlberg, who could fly on his own without a broom. Maybe this just means Wahlberg is the undisputed GOAT- I'm just rambling at this point
 
AnAverageUsername said:
No, I'm saying it being so destructive against Tatsumaki was because it was a "bubble" around her, because with it reversed it would have the pressure crush her on all sides, right? Sorry if I worded that wrong initially.
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What do Doom's barriers look like?
 
Kachon123 said:
What do Doom's barriers look like?
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I haven't been on in a month because this site is hot ass on mobile and I've lost interest in the fight, but telekinesis from what we've seen in Mashle can act as body control, a flat plane to halt attacks, or as sharp blades to cut things apart.

Right now though I think I'm going to try and pit Mash against the top strongest of his tiers, just like The Iron Fist says. "Training to be the highest in my tier"
 
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