Ganishka (Berserk) VS Ryomen Sukuna (Jujutsu Kaisen)

[Robin5217gk]

Good morning, afternoon, or evening to all ladies and gents reading this thread, today will mark the beginning of matchup up by host: I, Robin. I hope I will be able to present match ups that will draw enough attention to spark discussion and intrigue as I hope I will for this one as it is my first post, please feel free to share any corrections on the formatting of this post.

Now let us begin...
Votes supporting Sukuna:
On the left we have the legendary sorcerer that fell the strongest of today, the battle hungry demon of incredible terrorrrrrrrr...........
The King of Curses And Deadly Poisons,
. RYOMEN SUKUNAAAAAAA (link)
Versus.....
Votes supporting Ganishka:
The one and only, the most dreadful and terrifying emperor of allllllllllll...........
The Personified Wrath Of The Demon God Shiva,
. GANISHKAAAAAAA (link)
Inconclusive:

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With all that said, the keys we shall be using is Sukuna post-Shinjuku Showdown at full power in his true form versus Ganishka in his Shiva state with both sides in character. The chosen location shall be the fields of Midland with a starting distance of 200 meters. They would have to win by any means.

I have selected these two for this match up for A FEW very simple reasons.

• They both are respected and feared by many for their power as destructive deities or imaginary demons.
• They both keep only one ally close to them that they respect and enjoy the presence of: Daiba and Uraume respectively. The rest of humanity is treated with incredible spite and bitterness.
• In the worlds of Berserk and Jujutsu Kaisen, these two are the only characters to have "reincarnated" twice in the series. Doing so to achieve a greater level of power in order to face off incredibly powerful men who humiliated them in their first encounter.
• and more.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Can Ganish even fit in Sukuna's domain?

 

[Arkansalter2]

This might be Gojo v Godzilla but instead, Ganish is FAR too big to even fit in Sukuna's main wincon. Sukuna will probably lead with that because of Ganish's sheer size.

 

[Foriaa]

Ganishka via range.

 

[LaserPrecision]

This might be Gojo v Godzilla but instead, Ganish is FAR too big to even fit in Sukuna's main wincon. Sukuna will probably lead with that because of Ganish's sheer size.

In all fairness, I don't think not fitting in Malevolent Shrine is much of a problem. Because any part that IS inside the Domain will be quickly chopped to pieces, causing them to quickly decrease in size at a rapid rate. Meaning more and more of them will pour into Malevolent Shrine's range.

 

[Arkansalter2]

In all fairness, I don't think not fitting in Malevolent Shrine is much of a problem. Because any part that IS inside the Domain will be quickly chopped to pieces, causing them to quickly decrease in size at a rapid rate. Meaning more and more of them will pour into Malevolent Shrine's range.

That's gonna take a lot to chop him down. This man can cause shockwaves just by walking so if this man just wants to just... fall over on top of him.. he most definitely could.

 

[LaserPrecision]

That's gonna take a lot to chop him down. This man can cause shockwaves just by walking so if this man just wants to just... fall over on top of him.. he most definitely could.

I mean a lot is what Malevolent Shrine does. Kinda it's thing. Endlessly chops whatever is inside of it. It can slice things billions of times a second. It turned an entire portion of a city into small dust particles. So cutting them enough shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I mean a lot is what Malevolent Shrine does. Kinda it's thing. Endlessly chops whatever is inside of it. It can slice things billions of times a second. It turned an entire portion of a city into small dust particles. So cutting them enough shouldn't be an issue.

The question is that would Sukuna be able to use shrine before Ganish steps once and just send Sukuna a bajillion miles away and potentially stepping on him?

 

[Razor]

Also if Ganishka is unable to do anything about malevolent shrine, sukuna will eventually be able to use Fuga which would take out a pretty good portion out of Ganishka. He can also fly atop nue and then send dismantles or even WCS at a range to cut off any parts of Ganishka he needs to. For example, those tentacles of his look really good targets for WCS to lob off (Assuming they don't just regenerate or come back in another way)

The question is that would Sukuna be able to use shrine before Ganish steps once and just send Sukuna a bajillion miles away and potentially stepping on him?

Domain expansion is pretty damn fast. And would likely be his opener considering Ganishka's size.

 

[LaserPrecision]

The question is that would Sukuna be able to use shrine before Ganish steps once and just send Sukuna a bajillion miles away and potentially stepping on him?

It's a small hand gesture to use it. I imagine he'd be very easily capable of using it before the massive character can cover a much larger distance to step on him given speed is equalized. Well, ig speed equalized isn't specified, but I assume it is because Ganish's speed is unknown whereas Sukuna is Supersonic. Otherwise Sukuna could just blitz. He could also prolly just cut Ganish's foot off if he attempts stepping on Sukuna (Not to mention Sukuna could survive that. Their AP's aren't too far off from one another). Sukuna getting sent flying is unlikely too since he can use the air itself as a foot hold, which would allow him to jump back if sent flying. And that's ignoring the Shikigami's he can summon.

 

[Arkansalter2]

His sheer presence creates mega storms and creates an overwhelming aura. This will make Sukuna damn near terrified and he'll probably s*** his pants. Not only that, but him standing up devastated a city.
He's gonna have to deal with 7-B to likely 7-A storms, while dealing with a myriad of tendrils that can just grab him at any time, while dealing with damn near a danmaku of a fire storm, while dealing with him simply walking, while avoiding getting absolutely mollywhopped by a foot.

 

[Robin5217gk]

I do believe that Sukuna should be able to legitimately harm Ganishka rather quite easily. In Berserk, the way he was slain had to be done via a slash that tears through space. Sukuna may be able to achieve similar results if he attempts to use his World Cutting Slashes, considering that they are able to extend their target to Ganishka and space itself.

He's gonna have to deal with 7-B to likely 7-A storms, while dealing with a myriad of tendrils that can just grab him at any time, while dealing with damn near a danmaku of a fire storm, while dealing with him simply walking, while avoiding getting absolutely mollywhopped by a foot.

While that may be true, it is true that Sukuna will have to deal with an incredibly strong foe. Ganishka does not demonstrate the same level of speed as he did in his original Released Form because of the sheer scope of Ganishka's hurling mass of flesh.

 

[Robin5217gk]

Bump

 

[azontr]

Ganishka kinda just steps on him methinks

 

[Arkenis]

I think this is a mismatch/stomp. Sukuna will go straight into Domain seeing how massive he is and his domain's powerful enough to shred Gojo, thing is the domains potentially launching thousands to millions of slashes and will shred Ganishka down to his level. There's also nothing stating Sukuna can't run up to his head and domain there or teleport his domain around to kill Ganishka over time. There's a calc also putting Sukuna's Fire Arrow at 900+m in height so that can instantly melt or vaporize Ganishka.

He's gonna have to deal with 7-B to likely 7-A storms, while dealing with a myriad of tendrils that can just grab him at any time, while dealing with damn near a danmaku of a fire storm, while dealing with him simply walking, while avoiding getting absolutely mollywhopped by a foot.

Storms aren't really that impressive for power. What? Lightning strikes, strong winds? I don't know if there's any scaling for them but Sukuna scales above your average strong storm wind and lightning strikes. This is also gonna be a weakness for Ganishka, with all the debris being flung around and Ganishka's own body, after Sukuna's used his domain, there will be billions (cm3) of volume of matter that'll be coated in his explosive ce for the fire arrow to keep using. The storms may just be vaporized by the fire.

His sheer presence creates mega storms and creates an overwhelming aura. This will make Sukuna damn near terrified and he'll probably s*** his pants. Not only that, but him standing up devastated a city.

Doesn't look like they're overwhelmed, confused and worried more. Sukuna's also got his own massive aura reaching into the clouds and we know it makes people fearful due to its evilness.

And that's ignoring the Shikigami's he can summon.

They selected true form and true form's when he doesn't have access anymore.

 

[LaserPrecision]

They selected true form and true form's when he doesn't have access anymore.

Ah, my bad. It's still kinda weird that we treat the true form key as like, strictly crippled Sukuna, rather than just allowing him to transform right before the fight starts since he was only in that condition because of a fight he just had. But not much that can be done about that.

Also people talking about Sukuna getting stepped on, but he's too fast and agile for that to happen. And if he were about to be stepped on, Sukuna would chop his foot to pieces before it could smoosh him.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Bump

 

[Apotheosis69]

Shiva def outscales Sukuna physically. Cus just him walking/moving his limbs and not doin anythin else is 850 Kilotons, so imagine the power of his tendrils flailing or his actual stomping. And through his calculation of his AP, Ganishka is 2.7606 Kilometers tall....

And his durability too should be far higher than that, as Skull Knight's Spatial Cutting was needed for even Femto to stop Ganishka and turn him into the World Tree

We also have to remember, that through SBA that speed is not equalized and while Shiva Ganishka is far slower than before... The fact that he is slower than Massively Hypersonic. Being generous and he's 10 times slower... he's still Mach 43.28998... So he would still speed blitz Sukuna, he will get hit and Transmuted

 

[LaserPrecision]

Shiva def outscales Sukuna physically. Cus just him walking/moving his limbs and not doin anythin else is 850 Kilotons, so imagine the power of his tendrils flailing or his actual stomping. And through his calculation of his AP, Ganishka is 2.7606 Kilometers tall....

And his durability too should be far higher than that, as Skull Knight's Spatial Cutting was needed for even Femto to stop Ganishka and turn him into the World Tree

We also have to remember, that through SBA that speed is not equalized and while Shiva Ganishka is far slower than before... The fact that he is slower than Massively Hypersonic. Being generous and he's 10 times slower... he's still Mach 43.28998... So he would still speed blitz Sukuna, he will get hit and Transmuted

I don't think we assume "Unknown" speed means they downscale other stats on their profile (or characters). Otherwise they'd have "At most Massively Hypersonic" on the profile, which indicates downscaling. Honestly I think unknown tier for stats is stupid and shouldn't be on profiles. But honestly when it pops up, I just assume average human level. Because why would I assume anything beyond average if the character has supposedly showcased NO feats that can be calculated somehow.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Sukuna can close his Domain and Domain inside can be pretty big compared to what it looks from the outside so I don't know if that works since characters like Jogo and Dagon can create inner side of Domain around the size of mountains range.
I'm not sure but Sukuna can change his domain size similar to Gojo so should be able to expand it I guess? And use fire arrow inside of it

 

[Apotheosis69]

Sukuna can close his Domain and Domain inside can be pretty big compared to what it looks from the outside so I don't know if that works since characters like Jogo and Dagon can create inner side of Domain around the size of mountains range.
I'm not sure but Sukuna can change his domain size similar to Gojo so should be able to expand it I guess? And use fire arrow inside of it

He would've certainly done it against Gojo, so I sincerely doubt he can. Especially because the entire reason it stretches that far is through a Binding Vow compensating for allowing his opponent to escape due to it being an Open Barrier.

And open barrier Domains are different to closed barrier domains since it doesn't have a separate space

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

He would've certainly done it against Gojo, so I sincerely doubt he can.

He tried to use Closed domain but well he got his brain fried.

Especially because the entire reason it stretches that far is through a Binding Vow compensating for allowing his opponent to escape due to it being an Open Barrier.

And open barrier Domains are different to closed barrier domains since it doesn't have a separate space

Inside and outside are different cases.

 

[Apotheosis69]

He tried to use Closed domain but well he got his brain fried.

Yes but that doesn't mean that would make it larger. Due to not having a Binding Vow then, it would start off faaaaarrr smaller than 200 Meters, he could expand it THEN to 200 meters. But never shown beyond that.

Inside and outside are different cases.

For Closed Domains yes, Open Domains never separate anything, it's just... there