Shen vs Invincible

[Arkenis]

Weaker Omni-Man vs Goku but with blue hair and also a Negation
Equal Speed
Shen is in first key, same as Mark

 

[AppleMaker]

For some reason I thought it was KFP Shen

 

[Stillwinston]

Shen's analytical prediction is gonna make it hard for Mark to hit him from the looks of it, but they're comparable in LS and Mark can fly so he could grapple and punt him into space I guess.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Shen negates the truth and starts parrying unless Mark is astronomically higher in class G

Shen's analytical prediction is gonna make it hard for Mark to hit him from the looks of it, but they're comparable in LS and Mark can fly so he could grapple and punt him into space I guess.

The moment Shen sees you, he can negate your movement and reverse it, you can't escape his sight

 

[Stillwinston]

Hmmm well Mark can counter by borrowing underground where he can't be seen then and attack from there and just punch him to space, rage power would eventually happen and Mark could just rip apart from there. They're both in the same gap LS wise and Invincible folks can gore each other easily so wouldn't put it past it that Mark can do the same here

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Hmmm well Mark can counter by borrowing underground where he can't be seen then and attack from there and just punch him to space, rage power would eventually happen and Mark could just rip apart from there. They're both in the same gap LS wise and Invincible folks can gore each other easily so wouldn't put it past it that Mark can do the same here

Trying to do that means that Mark instead of borrowing underground would fly up

Anything he tries to escape his sigh gets reversed, if he attacks, with the left punch, he instead attacks with the right punch and Shen reads that and counters, he also targets weak points of the opponent to break bones

Also, the Ap seems to be in Mark Side but Shen upscales from someone who is 563 and he consider ssaid person weak, if this is not illegal, he also has a 1.6 megaton attack

Final question, how do we equalized speed here, because Shen is hypersonic+, but him using the staff makes him MHS, is not his combat speed, is pure attack speed, so Mark would be at a 17 times speed disadvantage to his high 7-A attacks from 4KM away while not being able to escape his sight at all, so he can't dodge, only protect himself constantly

 

[Stillwinston]

Trying to do that means that Mark instead of borrowing underground would fly up

Anything he tries to escape his sigh gets reversed, if he attacks, with the left punch, he instead attacks with the right punch and Shen reads that and counters, he also targets weak points of the opponent to break bones

Also, the Ap seems to be in Mark Side but Shen upscales from someone who is 563 and he consider ssaid person weak, if this is not illegal, he also has a 1.6 megaton attack

Final question, how do we equalized speed here, because Shen is hypersonic+, but him using the staff makes him MHS, is not his combat speed, is pure attack speed, so Mark would be at a 17 times speed disadvantage to his high 7-A attacks from 4KM away while not being able to escape his sight at all, so he can't dodge, only protect himself constantly

Mark can just figure it out, there's enough weird shit in Invincible that he'd eventually come to the conclusion his actions are being reversed and respond in kind. Heck I'd not put it past him to eventually fly outta sight (New york is like right there and dozens of buildings to break line of sight)

Idk about the speed question there sry anyone able to clarify?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Mark can just figure it out, there's enough weird shit in Invincible that he'd eventually come to the conclusion his actions are being reversed and respond in kind. Heck I'd not put it past him to eventually fly outta sight (New york is like right there and dozens of buildings to break line of sight)

Trying to fly away= flying towards Shen
He could figure it out but his concious though are still reversed

And he could also just denies the action, Spoil was forced to cancel his beam and before that he was forced to aim in another direction

Fighting Shen is extremely difficult, to counter him you would need to teleport out of his sight or maybe become invisible so he can't technically see you, another counter in the series seems to be to just fight quickly and not think, as noted in his weakness section

 

[Arkenis]

Being hard to predict works for countering him. Seeing Marks martial arts can compete with older Viltrums and numerous heroes, he shouldn't be outright Untruthed in combat unless he does absolutely predictable things like flight. Another thing is obscuring his vision works and Mark should figure that out in time.

 

[Arkenis]

another counter in the series seems to be to just fight quickly and not think,

More that it's against good unpredictable fighters than just fight quick.

 

[Arkenis]

Shen's analytical prediction is gonna make it hard for Mark to hit him from the looks of it, but they're comparable in LS and Mark can fly so he could grapple and punt him into space I guess.

Mark has hundreds of times greater LS. But launching in space is unlikely, the staff can be used for travel so he can just shoot it, hold the top and redirect his path

 

[Stillwinston]

Mark has hundreds of times greater LS. But launching in space is unlikely, the staff can be used for travel so he can just shoot it, hold the top and redirect his path

People who can fly like conquest still got punted into space though from Mark's blows though, if he does indeed have the LS then ripping apart can also be a thing

 

[Arkenis]

People who can fly like conquest still got punted into space though from Mark's blows though, if he does indeed have the LS then ripping apart can also be a thing

That was a stronger Mark but also speed can counteract the force if great enough, I'm just unsure if the staff's mach 376 is great enough for it. There's also the fact Mark would have to throw him hard enough he'd never be able to come back. I could also see him using the staff to push him backward.