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Garou vs Uryū ishida (9-5-1)

Elaborate? Look at his profile it's explained there.
Someone already explained, thanks though.
Why wouldn't work, the cellular decomposition being done to uryu would be swapped with garou's body. How would he resist this?
Forgot the topic for this one sorry 🙏.

"the cellular decomposition" from what again?
Like we said in gerard vs saitama, limited immortality type 2 can be outlasted and weakened. Macro-quantum body control would do what here to prevent the decomposing cells?
Except it changed(added regen) + also like i said in gerard vs Saitama, it is wrong.

Immortality type 2 requires "surviving indefinitely". You don't get the ability at all if you don't. "Limited" immortality is because of how it works, not because "they die later".

Oh also they have regen after immortality, so there is no problem like that.
uryu harming himself and transferring it to garou.
Garou can do lots of thing to it in my opinion, though i'd like to hear the examples of what he does first.
 
Uryu doesn't fight like this for now, let's stick to the win cons we have for him for now please.
Uryu is a genius and fights in a cold and calculated manner, why wouldn't he think of that? This is within his wincon lol utilizing the Antithesis to swap the states of 2 things.

Its like arguing Gremmy can only turn your bone into a cookie but he can't turn it into cotton candy.
 
Yet i still don't understand. Because how is he supposed to one shot him at all is what i'm saying. Garou copies, martial arts, RE, portal etc etc.
Garou can't copy reishi, martial art is not helping him evade FTE movement and an attack stronger than his own durability by 13 times. He would be to dazed to even understand what just happened before he even realizes what uryu is going to do. He isn't countering that.
Btw, is there a limit to his ability, like he needs to see the target etc, or a range limit. (I assume there is as he doesn't need to be in the battlefield etc otherwise :d
He doesn't need to see his target he only needs to know his target is there, he swapped yhwach with his medallion and he wasn't look at yhwach, he also didn't need to look at his injuries before he swapped them. There could be range limit but so far anything within field vision ig.
Garou did become blitz level. They were comparable before 0.0013 second. That "whole ass fight" took 0.0013 second.
Their fight didn't start at the constellation tho did it? I might go check again. Uryu could boost his speed with hieryanku and volstanding before garou reaches his speed since uryu would get faster before garou catches up as they are both in base.
You misunderstand the immortality type 2. Garou overcomes death and gets explosive growth (blitz + one shot level).
He isn't getting one shot and blitz level on someone who is faster and 13 times stronger than him immediately, it is the reason alone uryu would take him out quickly with an attack that can erase souls. In his quincy profile.
Not what i mean. He purposely waited until he was so injured, no? At least that's what i get from the scan there.
Okay, you are right about that but he did that to overwhelm jugram because jugram was stronger than him, he wouldn't wait againt garou who is more dangerous.
 
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Someone already explained, thanks though.
Okay.
Forgot the topic for this one sorry 🙏.

"the cellular decomposition" from what again?
Effects of radiation on uryu, that would be reversed to garou. That is one of those symptoms.
Except it changed(added regen) + also like i said in gerard vs Saitama, it is wrong.

Immortality type 2 requires "surviving indefinitely". You don't get the ability at all if you don't. "Limited" immortality is because of how it works, not because "they die later".

Oh also they have regen after immortality, so there is no problem like that.
Does this regen counteract the effects of high dosage of radiation? Also literally the ones who have "overcome death" were literally killed by saitama except garou. So how is this immortality protecting garou from death
Garou can do lots of thing to it in my opinion, though i'd like to hear the examples of what he does first
Say he blows his arm off and reflects that damage on garou, garou would loose an arm
 
Garou can't copy reishi, martial art is helping him evade FTE movement and an attack stronger than his own durability by 13 times. He would be to dazed to even understand what just happened before he even realizes what uryu is going to do. He isn't countering that.
You misunderstand. Garou can still copy his strength, speed etc.

"He would be dazed to even understand" what? Lmao, that ain't happening to Garou in a thousand year.

Garou has constant growth that starts at the beginning of the fight, he'll already be blitzing him. Also even people with inferior skill like Iaian can handle against FTE movement via senses only. Garou would destroy him. His RE itself is enough lmao.
He doesn't need to see his target he only needs to know his target is there, he swapped yhwach with his medallion and he wasn't look at yhwach, he also didn't need to look at his injuries before he swapped them. There could be range limit but so far anything within field vision ig.
Yes, Which is why i'm not sure if it works for someone inside a black hole. Space-time is warped + beyond the event horizon.
He isn't getting one shot and blitz level on someone who is faster and 13 times stronger than him immediately, it is the reason alone uryu would take him out quickly with an attack that can erase souls. In his quincy profile.
Uh... 13 times stronger is nothing, Garou can copy strength, speed etc type of stats. Add his growth as well and he's blitzing and overpowering instantly.

Garou can resist soul decon. Though asking it to Kachon would be better (he was the one who made the thread etc).
Okay, you are right about that but he did that to overwhelm jugram because jugram was stronger than him, he wouldn't wait againt garou who is more dangerous.
He wouldn't know that Garou is more dangerous, since technically he has inferior AP etc. at the very start.
 
Effects of radiation on uryu, that would be reversed to garou. That is one of those symptoms.
Garou's body control on a macro quantum level should be more than enough, he can control his own radiation on that level.

He could also just adapt via RE etc.
Does this regen counteract the effects of high dosage of radiation? Also literally the ones who have "overcome death" were literally killed by saitama except garou. So how is this immortality protecting garou from death
Uh... Saitama killed who?

Also that immortality is kinda OP. Garou could use it in the very instant he was about to get vaporized, adapted to attack in that very instant as well, getting an explosive boost in stats. Garou could also use it while every bone in his chest shattered, while he was stabbed from every location of his body etc. He can also do it even if all his organs were severely damaged, getting cut to the point of getting almost bisected from many locations of the body, huge holes in the body etc.

Garou can overcome death and evolve.
Say he blows his arm off and reflects that damage on garou, garou would loose an arm
Oh i know that, i'm asking to what point is he doing it in character. (cuz Garou can survive a lot of thing)

Also I still think Garou's radiation is enough :d
 
Do we see someone insta get brain fried the second they are near garou? Might have missed a similar scan posted in the thread skimmed some parts. Just curious
 
Do we see someone insta get brain fried the second they are near garou? Might have missed a similar scan posted in the thread skimmed some parts. Just curious
No one gets near him. Blast states they will die if they try to. (Except Genos but he has resistance)
 
Ok the scans shows that people will die near him and people dying. Do we have any real idea how long it took for to die? The scan in his radation blog says he will die if he gets near as well but still no real time frame..
 
Ok the scans shows that people will die near him and people dying. Do we have any real idea how long it took for to die? The scan in his radation blog says he will die if he gets near as well but still no real time frame..
No known timeframe, but based on the value, it's instant.
 
Literal human level children could withstand his radiation for a solid minute before suffering visible consequences from few meters. At 4km it would be basically inconsequential so Garou would have to use a portal to close the distance.

Which is in all honesty something he'd probably do from the start, but that still leaves it questionable whether Uryu can reverse the damage fast enough
 
Also Tayman you gotta stop with the "the fight was only 0.013 seconds" shit because it doesn't matter and I'm a bit tired of having to explain it in every OPM thread I ever open.

The fights duration doesn't matter because it's artificially shortened by the combatants being FTL. What matters is the amount of actions he did.
So if Garou could grow like that in 0.013 seconds and gets speed equalized to someone 100x slower it's going to take him 100x longer than it did in canon because the ability will get nerfed proportionally to himself. At the end of the day in a speed equalized match the opponent will have the same amount of opportunities to attack Garou as PS had in canon because their speeds will be equal, making the timeframe completely useless.

So no, Garou is not becoming a blitz tier above Uryu in a blink of an eye, Uryu will have dozens if not hundreds of chances to hit Garou before it gets to that point.
 
Literal human level children could withstand his radiation for a solid minute before suffering visible consequences from few meters. At 4km it would be basically inconsequential so Garou would have to use a portal to close the distance.
Yea initial Cosmic Garou which was 15643.064 Gy, the one we are using is 8.98755179e16 Gy a literal 5.745390922e+12 times difference.
Also the children were fine for a few minutes? Garou took three steps towards them and they instantly suffered from radiation and died like everyone nearby, even Tareo and Manako died from tens of meters away.
Garou would easily cross this distance with a portal or by jumping, and the moment he approaches Uryu he would die
 
Yea initial Cosmic Garou which was 15643.064 Gy, the one we are using is 8.98755179e16 Gy a literal 5.745390922e+12 times difference.
No, that value is for him creating anti-particles not him passively emitting radiation. And even then it's just the overtime maximum possible value, so it's not actually combat applicable.
That is what was accepted.
Also the children were fine for a few minutes?
I said for a solid minute. And all of this happened before the radiation even started to noticeably affect literal kids

And even afterwards we had no evidence they actually died and didn't just get KOed.
Garou would easily cross this distance with a portal or by jumping, and the moment he approaches Uryu he would die
I don’t really care about the match up, I'm just correcting mistakes here
 
That's a blog that was not accepted in any thread (hell it was made days after the thread was concluded) and the fact it's in a profile could probably be grounds for at least a warning if not a ban.

ESPECIALLY since it claims something completely different than what the staff actually accepted. (accepted theoretical maximum radiation over time vs not accepted passive constant radiation)

They literally died, Blast says so himself that the radiation kills people

Blast says the radiation will kill everyone. Not really a confirmation they died right away.

Either way it's besides the point that Garou could have a whole conversation and multiple heroes could have inner monologs or start running away before any noticeable effects took place.
Also Tareo

Any evidence he's alive? That fodder human sized monster seems to be pretty alive here as well
 
Didn't they survive to radiation momentarily because Blast sent it away? Or was that retconned too?

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No, that value is for him creating anti-particles not him passively emitting radiation. And even then it's just the overtime maximum possible value, so it's not actually combat applicable.
Those were created by his cosmic radiation. It scales to his radiation, though i guess it's at the end of the key?

People died from the radiation though, Saitama's talk about how he lacks heroism and Tareo being dead etc.
Which is in all honesty something he'd probably do from the start, but that still leaves it questionable whether Uryu can reverse the damage fast enough
I honestly don't think so, he might just get knocked the moment he doesn't expect it.

Characters with MHS+ perception/reaction like Child Emperor was also surprised about it etc.
That's a blog that was not accepted in any thread (hell it was made days after the thread was concluded) and the fact it's in a profile could probably be grounds for at least a warning if not a ban.
Uh what? Both blog were accepted, it's a summary to both of them, i asked Recon if i should add it etc.

The thread was accepted, the proposal was to add the values to the blog of Garou's radiation page, it was still going to be added like that.
ESPECIALLY since it claims something completely different than what the staff actually accepted. (accepted theoretical maximum radiation over time vs not accepted passive constant radiation)
"Parallel Timeline Garou at the end of the battle emits 3.27484902e13 Grays of radiation."
Any evidence he's alive? That fodder human sized monster seems to be pretty alive here as well
Any evidence he's alive, no. Also based on how fast they were affected, it's right to assume they'd be that at that point (Also based on what we see happened at the end).
 
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You misunderstand. Garou can still copy his strength, speed etc.
Uryu's strength and speed comes from boosting his power by absorbing reishi from his surroundings to amplify himself, garou can't copy that.
"He would be dazed to even understand" what? Lmao, that ain't happening to Garou in a thousand year.
Being removed from inside a singularity without being touched or interacted will daze him, he wouldn't even understand what just happened. Garou can be stunned by unexpected things like in the saitama fight.
Garou has constant growth that starts at the beginning of the fight, he'll already be blitzing him. Also even people with inferior skill like Iaian can handle against FTE movement via senses only. Garou would destroy him. His RE itself is enough lmao.
It wouldn't start at the beginning of the fight, his RE don't work that way. It would start when he is being overwhelmed and uryu in that state wouldn't give him time to increase his RE when he senses his power increasing.

Laian has never fought someone faster with FTE boost before, a false equivalence. You would to have prove garou would catch up to a temporary faster uryu before he gets one shot.
Garou's body control on a macro quantum level should be more than enough, he can control his own radiation on that level.
How is body control stopping the decaying cells? Having control doesn't mean he can stop his cells from dying.
He could also just adapt via RE etc.
How??
Uh... Saitama killed who?
Garou is not the only monster to overcome strength.
Also that immortality is kinda OP. Garou could use it in the very instant he was about to get vaporized, adapted to attack in that very instant as well, getting an explosive boost in stats. Garou could also use it while every bone in his chest shattered, while he was stabbed from every location of his body etc. He can also do it even if all his organs were severely damaged, getting cut to the point of getting almost bisected from many locations of the body, huge holes in the body etc.
It's a soul erasure attack, quincy can erase souls where is the feat of garou's immortality surviving that?
Garou can overcome death and evolve.
Feats of overcoming soul erasure?
 
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Also Tayman you gotta stop with the "the fight was only 0.013 seconds" shit because it doesn't matter and I'm a bit tired of having to explain it in every OPM thread I ever open.

The fights duration doesn't matter because it's artificially shortened by the combatants being FTL. What matters is the amount of actions he did.
So if Garou could grow like that in 0.013 seconds and gets speed equalized to someone 100x slower it's going to take him 100x longer than it did in canon because the ability will get nerfed proportionally to himself. At the end of the day in a speed equalized match the opponent will have the same amount of opportunities to attack Garou as PS had in canon because their speeds will be equal, making the timeframe completely useless.

So no, Garou is not becoming a blitz tier above Uryu in a blink of an eye, Uryu will have dozens if not hundreds of chances to hit Garou before it gets to that point.
And should uryu boost his speed with volstanding and Hienryanku before that happens to deliver a kill shot with seele.
 
Those were created by his cosmic radiation. It scales to his radiation, though i guess it's at the end of the key?
Yes, but not instantaneously and/or passively.
People died from the radiation though,
Yeah after an unknown amount of time maybe.
Uh what? Both blog were accepted, it's a summary to both of them, i asked Recon if i should add it etc.
Dude the blog didn't even exist when the radiation thread was concluded and says something completely different than what was accepted.
The thread was accepted, the proposal was to add the values to the blog of Garou's radiation page, it was still going to be added like that.
The thread which confirmed Garous total maximum possible radiation emitted over time was accepted. Not Garou passively emitting that every second.

Dude I specifically asked what the value refers to, the staff that approved your thread said something completely different than you're claiming right now, you liked it, and then put something completely different into the profile. That's SO disingenuous and shady bro.

Like I was actually disappointed in you when I saw that 💀
"Parallel Timeline Garou at the end of the battle emits 3.27484902e13 Grays of radiation."
Quoting a blog that wasn't accepted doesn't help your case.
Any evidence he's alive, no. Also based on how fast they were affected, it's right to assume they'd be that at that point (Also based on what we see happened at the end).
I don't need evidence he's alive because I'm not claiming he is, you need he's dead because you're claiming he is.
 
Uryu's has been exposed to potent aura in his own verse( not saying their aura is radiation, but he is aware that aura can cause certain attacks) so he would know garou's aura is doing that, he would also feel symptoms of radiation poisoning before he dies and is smart enough to know he is dying so he reverses the attack. The symptoms come before death which is enough for uryu who is a genius intellectually and from experience can deduce garou is causing it and so would reverse the symptoms before he dies. He might not know it is radiation but he would know it's the aura from garou
@Robo432343

Uryu's understanding of the own potent aura mechanisms of his own verse, will know from experience garou's presence is causing that, and having a faster thought process than the radiation trying to kill him, uryu would reverse the damages back to garou before he is killed and maintain his distance although there is nothing stopping garou from closing the distance with portals, uryu will still attempt to reverse it again and again any time the symptoms are felt leading him to enter volstanding and land attack that is 13 times stronger than garou or even dura neg with seele. A soul erasure attack garou wouldn't survive.
 
Also pretty sure Uryu reversing the effects of Senjumaru's bankai (which has sealing and fate manipulation) is above mere radiation
 
Uryu's strength and speed comes from boosting his power by absorbing reishi from his surroundings to amplify himself, garou can't copy that.
He doesn't need to copy the way he gets stronger, he needs to copy his physical strength etc.
Being removed from inside a singularity without being touched or interacted will daze him, he wouldn't even understand what just happened. Garou can be stunned by unexpected things like in the saitama fight.
Garou won't understand visibly teleportation? Lmao, he fights even then as well. Your claim is that Garou will be so shocked because of being teleported that he won't be able to do anything against him?
It wouldn't start at the beginning of the fight, his RE don't work that way. It would start when he is being overwhelmed and uryu in that state wouldn't give him time to increase his RE when he senses his power increasing.

Laian has never fought someone faster with FTE boost before, a false equivalence. You would to have prove garou would catch up to a temporary faster uryu before he gets one shot.
Garou constantly grows. Being overwhelmed etc. makes it faster. Overcoming death causes instant explosive growth.

Also i can't find the FTE boost in quincy profile etc, "hieryanku" are you sure you're said the name of the ability accurately?
Garou is not the only monster to overcome strength.
Yes, i'm saying who did he killed? Cuz there is no one he killed like that iirc.
It's a soul erasure attack, quincy can erase souls where is the feat of garou's immortality surviving that?
I'm not saying to that attack, Also asking Kachon about Soul decon would be better ig.
Unless you have a time frame faster than killing someone with sub rel perception and thought speed, it isn't killing uryu before he reverses the damage and one shot.
This requires him to understand he's affected by it, do it before getting knocked out, and realize it could do these things. Which we see him waiting to use his ability until he's highly damaged as well.

Characters like Child Emperor with MHS+ reaction/perception didn't understand, wouldn't be much different to him.
And should uryu boost his speed with volstanding and Hienryanku before that happens to deliver a kill shot with seele.
Bro i can't even see any type of speed level for him in his page. Also what is "Hienryanku" can't even find it.
 
since when did uryu reverse causality in a way that would protect him from physical effects like radiation??? even if he resisted a fate-based sealing hax, that’s not equivalent to resisting atomic-level bs that destroys you. its not the same Garou’s radiation isn’t the result of manipulated fate—it’s a passive, Without healing low godly regen or radiation resistance feats, Uryu dies before he can reverse anything.
 
Yes, but not instantaneously and/or passively.
After his fight.
Yeah after an unknown amount of time maybe.
Seems to be accepted as fast in the past (Wasn't here in 2022)
Dude the blog didn't even exist when the radiation thread was concluded and says something completely different than what was accepted.
The thread which confirmed Garous total maximum possible radiation emitted over time was accepted. Not Garou passively emitting that every second.

Dude I specifically asked what the value refers to, the staff that approved your thread said something completely different than you're claiming right now, you liked it, and then put something completely different into the profile. That's SO disingenuous and shady bro

Like I was actually disappointed in you when I saw that 💀
What? I didn't put anything i didn't say in the blog. Saying "you liked it so you put something different", I never put fake info to any of my threads etc.

Isn't it the total possible when they start? aka after the battle?

Edit: Oh now see what you meant by "liked it". I like every comment in any of my threads. Though if it was misunderstood, the thread is still open, will clarify it.
Quoting a blog that wasn't accepted doesn't help your case.
"After his battle with Saitama" or the values.

Also the radiation thread was to "It should be added as an addition to Garou's radiation page".
I don't need evidence he's alive because I'm not claiming he is, you need he's dead because you're claiming he is.
Garou and Saitama states it. Also seemingly these were already questioned and accepted in 2022 radiation thread, (dunno where it is).
 
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Also pretty sure Uryu reversing the effects of Senjumaru's bankai (which has sealing and fate manipulation) is above mere radiation
Can you send scan please? Though i don't think that it is related. They are fundamentally different, no? (nice profile, though feels weird cuz of the change :d)
 
Can you send scan please?
Here Uryu reversing the effects of Senjumaru's bankai


Though i don't think that it is related. They are fundamentally different, no?

Well the fact it has reality warping and matter absorption as well seems just the hax quality being greater


Creation, Shockwave Generation, Sealing, Enhanced Cloth Manipulation, Fate Manipulation & Reality Warping (Upon activation, Senjumaru's true Bankai, Shatatsu Karagara Shigarami no Tsuji causes the heavens and earths of the three realms to tremble. Senjumaru's Bankai then summons large amounts of cloth that connect with each other to trap the opponent. The power of Shatatsu Karagara Shigarami no Tsuji allows Senjumaru to literally bring forth the fates of her opponent's defeat through weaving, eventually sealing them within the cloths)
 
why are we assuming uryu can reverse biological radiation poisoning
he has no feats of doing stuff like that
If you check his profile, he verbatim states "I can completely reverse anything that has already happened" including damage. The effects of biological radiation poisoning is not above the limit of casualty manipulation . Saying he can't reverse the damage in his body is intellectual dishonesty.
 
After his fight.
?
Seems to be accepted as fast in the past (Wasn't here in 2022)
That's a completely different blog saying something completely different than you are.
What? I didn't put anything i didn't say in the blog. Saying "you liked it so you put something different", I never put fake info to any of my threads etc.
Yes you didn't put fake info in the thread, you instead sneaked it into the profile directly lmao
Isn't it the total possible when they start? aka after the battle?
It's the total possible overall. So it's the total radiation from the moment Garou gained the CFM, including all of the abilities he used like the GRB and his fusion/fission fists, all the way until the end of the fight.

NOT what he emits passively at all times like you and your blog claim.
Edit: Oh now see what you meant by "liked it". I like every comment in any of my threads. Though if it was misunderstood, the thread is still open, will clarify it.
No what I mean is that the accepting staff member said something different than what you put in the profile and you confirmed it by liking the comment.

In other words you purposely mislead staff members and then added something different to the profiles.
 
since when did uryu reverse causality in a way that would protect him from physical effects like radiation??? even if he resisted a fate-based sealing hax, that’s not equivalent to resisting atomic-level bs that destroys you. its not the same Garou’s radiation isn’t the result of manipulated fate—it’s a passive, Without healing low godly regen or radiation resistance feats, Uryu dies before he can reverse anything.
Quinces can manipulate reishi on an atomic level, so he can still interact with the "Atomic level BS" in his own body. It doesn't have to be the same, uryu can reverse anything he designates including damage itself, the damages from radiation poisoning will be designated and reversed.

You would have to prove the radiation poisoning is faster than sub rel thought speed to reverse before uryu dies otherwise, your words hold no weight.
 
That's a completely different blog saying something completely different than you are.
This is the accepted blog.
No what I mean is that the accepting staff member said something different than what you put in the profile and you confirmed it by liking the comment.
That's what i said? "Now i understand what you meant by liking it".
Yes you didn't put fake info in the thread, you instead sneaked it into the profile directly lmao
No? It was in the blog. Which i also said Parallel Timeline in the values as well.
It's the total possible overall. So it's the total radiation from the moment Garou gained the CFM, including all of the abilities he used like the GRB and his fusion/fission fists, all the way until the end of the fight.

NOT what he emits passively at all times like you and your blog claim.
No, Things like GRB, his fussions etc. none of them affects this value.

It's stated by narrator to be created by Garou's cosmic rays. This isn't a value that gets the overall radiation energy of the entirety of any radiation based ability since him gaining CFM.
No what I mean is that the accepting staff member said something different than what you put in the profile and you confirmed it by liking the comment.

In other words you purposely mislead staff members and then added something different to the profiles.
I didn't mislead anyone or anything.
Quinces can manipulate reishi on an atomic level, so he can still interact with the "Atomic level BS" in his own body. It doesn't have to be the same, uryu can reverse anything he designates including damage itself, the damages from radiation poisoning will be designated and reversed.
Does he see them on atomic level? since manipulation and perception isn't the same. "Not saying he can't reverse radiation damage".
You would have to prove the radiation poisoning is faster than sub rel thought speed to reverse before uryu dies otherwise, your words hold no weight.
Honestly don't think this is how it works lmao.
 
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