Garou vs Uryū ishida (9-5-1)

[Specterxxxx]

To address whether garou can copy uryu's power or not. I will explain in detail why garou can't copy uryu.

The mechanics of uryu entails his "strength"/ attack power is shown in his arrows NOT his physical body and garou needs to witness the power of his opponent before he copies it and the concepts of reishi doesn't exist in OPM so garou can't create a reishi bow and arrow because that's the only way uryu shows his power and that's the only to copy his strength as his strength can only be exterted by reishi arrows not his own physicals. So garou can't copy blut arterie. To say he can would be not only speculative but baseless as the source material doesn't prove this and such would be headcanon on your part.

As for blut vene, which amps up the durability (not Strength) in uryu's body and garou has not shown the capability to copy the durability alone of someone due to the fact he indirectly copies durability of someone by copying their strength (in saitama's case) which like I said needs to be exterted for him to witness and copy.

So for these reasons, garou can't copy uryu like he did saitama due to the mechanisms of their power being different, uryu showing his strength in his reishi arrows and garou has no understanding of reishi or even the means to subordinate reishi to copy uryu's strength, nor can he copy his durability because he can only copy that through strength.

So @MrTayman616 and @Kachon123

Garou can't copy uryu. Please read this before you reply to my counters here i explained in detail the mechanics of uryu's strength.

 

[Kachon123]

To address whether garou can copy uryu's power or not. I will explain in detail why garou can't copy uryu.

The mechanics of uryu entails his "strength"/ attack power is shown in his arrows NOT his physical body and garou needs to witness the power of his opponent before he copies it and the concepts of reishi doesn't exist in OPM so garou can't create a reishi bow and arrow because that's the only way uryu shows his power and that's the only to copy his strength as his strength can only be exterted by reishi arrows not his own physicals. So garou can't copy blut arterie. To say he can would be not only speculative but baseless as the source material doesn't prove this and such would be headcanon on your part.

As for blut vene, which amps up the durability (not Strength) in uryu's body and garou has not shown the capability to copy the durability alone of someone due to the fact he indirectly copies durability of someone by copying their strength (in saitama's case) which like I said needs to be exterted for him to witness and copy.

So for these reasons, garou can't copy uryu like he did saitama due to the mechanisms of their power being different, uryu showing his strength in his reishi arrows and garou has no understanding of reishi or even the means to subordinate reishi to copy uryu's strength, nor can he copy his durability because he can only copy that through strength.

So @MrTayman616 and @Kachon123

Garou can't copy uryu. Please read this before you reply to my counters here i explained in detail the mechanics of uryu's strength.

Unless I'm missing something, nobody claimed that Garou would be copying Uryu's arrows to shoot them himself. Shakkei, the technique that Garou uses to copy strength does not copy abilities, it copies strength alone. You're conflating his ability to reproduce abilities (what he used to copy Blast's gravity knucle and re-create a Gamma Ray Burst) and Shakkei.

Regardless, Garou's Accelerated Development is accepted to be able to bridge gaps of 13 times in extremely short amounts of time and only gets better when prompted. He's not getting oneshot put this point to rest.

 

[MrTayman616]

To address whether garou can copy uryu's power or not. I will explain in detail why garou can't copy uryu.

The mechanics of uryu entails his "strength"/ attack power is shown in his arrows NOT his physical body and garou needs to witness the power of his opponent before he copies it and the concepts of reishi doesn't exist in OPM so garou can't create a reishi bow and arrow because that's the only way uryu shows his power and that's the only to copy his strength as his strength can only be exterted by reishi arrows not his own physicals. So garou can't copy blut arterie. To say he can would be not only speculative but baseless as the source material doesn't prove this and such would be headcanon on your part.

As for blut vene, which amps up the durability (not Strength) in uryu's body and garou has not shown the capability to copy the durability alone of someone due to the fact he indirectly copies durability of someone by copying their strength (in saitama's case) which like I said needs to be exterted for him to witness and copy.

So for these reasons, garou can't copy uryu like he did saitama due to the mechanisms of their power being different, uryu showing his strength in his reishi arrows and garou has no understanding of reishi or even the means to subordinate reishi to copy uryu's strength, nor can he copy his durability because he can only copy that through strength.

So @MrTayman616 and @Kachon123

Garou can't copy uryu. Please read this before you reply to my counters here i explained in detail the mechanics of uryu's strength.

I read it.

No one says he'll copy the arrows.

Said that he can copy the stats of Uryu is what i'm saying. As his profile also shows it, His striking strength (It's physical ability), his durability etc. scales to it. Garou can't copy how he gets to that level(reishi etc.) but he can copy the stats.

 

[Voidnether]

Leaning towards Uryuu and probably you can put my vote on it, if Uryuu is capable of reversing the radiation effects. Nothing stops him from just using Heilig Pfeils, no?

 

[MrTayman616]

Leaning towards Uryuu and probably you can put my vote on it, if Uryuu is capable of reversing the radiation effects. Nothing stops him from just using Heilig Pfeils, no?

It won't work.

• According to a Q&A by Tite Kubo on his fansite "Klub Outside", the Heilig Pfeil was designed solely to destroy Hollow's souls, hence when Yhwach killed Yamamoto with them, Yamamoto's soul was not destroyed and was able to be consigned to Hell.

Not like Garou couldn't dodge them or anything either lmao.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Mind you, Saitama's punch fast was enough to violently blitz Garou here.

Where is the evidence of this?

My point is that arrows aren't strong enough to one shot Garou when he is just a powerful as they are while growing exponentially.

Garou is not as powerful as a 13× arrow difference bruh. The arrows are more than strong enough to kill him. Again uryu is going to kill before garou can cover a 13× gap easily.

And you think Garou's portals aren't? He can use however many he wants simultaneously

And whats to stop uryu from swapping him from that position with an arrow he shot in another direction and KILL HIM THERE. Uryu needs to land a hit on garou ONCE and he is dead. You saying he can't do that is crazy.

Garou has more than potent senses to determine the different angles they're being shot at

Determining the angle and evading them are two different things. If you look at mayuri vs uryu like I said. Mayuri and uryu were relative at base, uryu uses Letz still (a technique similar to volstanding by massively inferior). Uryu shoots the first shot, mayuri is already overwhelmed by the speed of his letz still arrow as you can see in that scan ( like garou would be overwhelmed by volstanding uryu's arrows) but he still manages to barely dodge it when Uryu enters another position to fire another shot, whether garou can evade doesn't matter. The volstanding arrows are too fast to evade in equal stats and barely dodging the first row doesn't mean you wouldn't be overwhelmed by the second or third.

and his accelerated development would make him surpass that FTE speed in an instant.

This has never happened in One punch man by the way. "In an instant" lol

While running on no sleep across several days, poisoned to the point to where he could only see people as blurs and could barely move, and beat up to the point of severe blood loss, Garou was able to pull this off against an attack with so much danmaku that it looked like an energy beam

So? You don't know the stat difference between garou and whoever that was, garou was stronger than a lot of heroes even in that state doesn't mean he can do the same with a 13× stronger opponent, with faster arrows and can change angle multiple times rapidly.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Regardless, Garou's Black Holes have the range and size of an entire Moon, so the amount of Danmaku that Uryu shoots at Garou is irrelevant, they get sucked in all the same

I don't see it being the size of the entire moon here and uryu can swap garou with one of his arrows in the opposite direction away from the black hole and one shot.

Read Garou's profile, this is not a baseless claim. Bang and Bomb with a far inferior technique were capable of completely turning a being they could not harm otherwise into dust.

Show the scan of the monster being turned to dust real quick? And it is an internal attack from what i see. Blut vene is an internal defense as well.

Garou uses this move from a range which can't be dodged as its based on eyesight.

Gets tanked by blut vene or uryu can use rasontengai if his organs are damaged

In conclusion, don't speak on what you don't know lol

You literally didn't prove me wrong tho, garou has never been in fight where he wasn't tagged, your scan shows the beginning of a fight and the fight didn't stop there.

 

[Arkenis]

This has never happened in One punch man by the way. "In an instant" lol

You're right, the characters fight at ftl to mftl+ speeds, it's happening wayyyyyyy faster than in an instant.

 

[Specterxxxx]

His durability, his striking strength etc all scales to this same thing in his profile you know? Striking strength is physical ability. Garou can copy

Striking strength doesn't come from his body physicals lmao and uryu wouldn't use his fists to fight garou so garou can't witness it and copy. So next.

His profile says it, not me.

And would he use this "physical strength" to fight garou? When he doesn't use his fists in fights?

Uh, why? Portals, send it back to him,

uryu controls them sending back to him would do nothing. And he would have to send hundreds of honing arrows uryu is controlling that is next to impossible.

send them to another dimension,

uryu creates more, they are made of reishi.

or move away etc.

They follow you wherever you go.....

Or send it so way away (like his range limit etc)

Uryu creates more and send it where?

Increase in reaction/perception via abandonment.

That could work against regular honing attacks that follow you wherever you go and then uryu sneak kills him with an attack that is faster than his reaction thanks to equal stats.

Are you even sure it's FTE, profile doesn't say it or anything. Claims that are not in the profiles can be problematic.

It is FTE like every other Hoho movement in bleach. You can find out for yourself.

Not what the profile stated. It stated it scales to durability, striking strength etc

Profiles doesn't say his blut vene scales to his striking strength and it isn't talking about physical body here. You don't know what you are talking about.

Same answer as before.

Likewise.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Unless I'm missing something, nobody claimed that Garou would be copying Uryu's arrows to shoot them himself. Shakkei, the technique that Garou uses to copy strength does not copy abilities, it copies strength alone

By gauging the strength of whatever he is trying to copy, the only way uryu shows strength is through the arrows which means garou can't copy.

. You're conflating his ability to reproduce abilities (what he used to copy Blast's gravity knucle and re-create a Gamma Ray Burst) and Shakkei.

That's not what I meant, he has always needed to see the power being exerted before he can copy it.

Regardless, Garou's Accelerated Development is accepted to be able to bridge gaps of 13 times in extremely short amounts of time

Provide where it is accepted so we can see how much of a time.

and only gets better when prompted. He's not getting oneshot put this point to rest.

He is getting oneshot, I will not put it to rest until provide substantial reason to believe garou is getting 13× stronger in a second.

read it.

No one says he'll copy the arrows.

I didn't say you said that, I said uryu displays his strength though the arrows and nothing else so garou can't copy that.

Said that he can copy the stats of Uryu is what i'm saying. As his profile also shows it, His striking strength (It's physical ability),

uryu doesn't use this battles and it doesn't say the striking strength his physicals

his durability etc. scales to it. Garou can't copy how he gets to that level(reishi etc.) but he can copy the stats.

Again, he can't copy any of this if uryu doesn't display them in fights, he only uses the arrow not his physicals to attack.

 

[Specterxxxx]

It won't work.

Not like Garou couldn't dodge them or anything either lmao.

Gets overwhelmed by the repeated shots that are going to be difficult to evade from superior speed, rapid change in angles, uryu's regular homing arrows that follow you wherever you go serving as a distraction for uryu to land a kill shot with 13× AP arrows.

He CAN'T dodge when all this factors are at play.

 

[Specterxxxx]

You're right, the characters fight at ftl to mftl+ speeds, it's happening wayyyyyyy faster than in an instant.

Is the mftl+ speeds in the room with us? Uryu arrows has tagged ftl characters (ichigo). I would need you, @MrTayman616 or @Kachon123 to link the accepted multiplier rate of garou's AD.

 

[Arkenis]

Is the mftl+ speeds in the room with us? Uryu arrows has tagged ftl characters (ichigo).

You right, I thought OPM still had mftl+ stats. FTL ad still go crazy

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

this boutta be 10 pages of yap for a bleach match again bro

 

[MrTayman616]

Striking strength doesn't come from his body physicals lmao and uryu wouldn't use his fists to fight garou so garou can't witness it and copy. So next.

Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike. In other words, it is the physical Attack Potency of an individual. It may or may not depend on Lifting Strength.

And would he use this "physical strength" to fight garou? When he doesn't use his fists in fights?

Answer is : Blut

uryu creates more, they are made of reishi.

Garou doesn't run out of portals either lmao. Nor black holes and gravity knuckles.

They follow you wherever you go.....

Dodge, adapt instantly, dodge better.

Uryu creates more and send it where?

Send it anywhere he wants. His range is huge.

That could against regular attacks maybe in base and then uryu sneak kills him with an attack that is faster than his reaction thanks to equal stats.

Weren't you just saying you were wrong about it being above his reaction but that it's hard to react?

Profiles doesn't say his blut vene scales to his striking strength and it isn't talking about physical body here. You don't know what you are talking about.

Not Blut "vene" but his Blut does. I'm literally saying the same thing as what the profile says lmao.

uryu doesn't use this battles and it doesn't say the striking strength his physicals

Bro that is literally what Striking strength is. Physical ability(counts things that upgrades it etc as well).

The profile literally says "Comparable to his Attack Potency, Blut amplifies his strength"

It is FTE like every other Hoho movement in bleach. You can find out for yourself.

When it's me, i have to show proof but when it's you, it's "find out yourself"

uryu doesn't use this battles and it doesn't say the striking strength his physicals

Literally the first moment of Senjimaru vs Uryu. Also He doesn't have to punch someone or anything like that, he just has to be that strong. Garou perceives it.

Again, he can't copy any of this if uryu doesn't display them in fights, he only uses the arrow not his physicals to attack.

He doesn't have to punch someone, he just has to be that strong and use it in any way. Garou perceives it.

Gets overwhelmed by the repeated shots that are going to be difficult to evade from superior speed, rapid change in angles, uryu's regular homing arrows that follow you wherever you go serving as a distraction for uryu to land a kill shot with 13× AP arrows.

He CAN'T dodge when all this factors are at play.

First, this assumes he'll instantly use his best version in the key (to achieve 13x AP) at the start of the battle (Garou copies anyway though).

Garou martial art, portals, gravity knuckles, any type of explosive attack.

Show proof for "superior speed" please.

 

[Specterxxxx]

You right, I thought OPM still had mftl+ stats. FTL ad still go crazy

Yeah but it doesn't make a difference here tbh.

Answer is : Blut

Doesn't use blut vene to attack, so garou can't copy it.

Garou doesn't run out of portals either lmao. Nor black holes and gravity knuckles.

No one said he did? He isn't going to get rid of a continual spawn homming arrows that shoot lasers serving as a distraction for uryu to land a kill shot.

Dodge, adapt instantly, dodge better.

Cool, uryu sneaks attacks him while he is doing allat spamming faster arrows at different angles, garou won't be able evade all it takes one to kill him.

Send it anywhere he wants. His range is huge

Cool story, he will continue to send it anywhere he wants while uryu lines him up for the perfect shot.

Weren't you just saying you were wrong about it being above his reaction but that it's hard to react

I said it wasn't a blitz, I didn't say he wasn't faster than his ability to properly react. While he is occupied with the swam of homing arrows, uryu kills him a with the lethal ones in a sneak attack.

Not Blut "vene" but his Blut does. I'm literally saying the same thing as what the profile says lmao

And you don't understand it, his other blut is exerted in his arrows not his physicals. Blut vene is for defense, blut arterie is for offense(arrows) those are the two.

Bro that is literally what Striking strength is. Physical ability(counts things that upgrades it etc as well).

The profile literally says "Comparable to his Attack Potency, Blut amplifies his strength"

Let's say it were, uryu in character doesn't use physicals to fight so again garou can't copy because uryu doesn't fight with his "striking strength"

When it's me, i have to show proof but when it's you, it's "find out yourself"

You didn't ask me for proof, you asked me if I am sure, you can check soul physiology page then.

Literally the first moment of Senjimaru vs Uryu. Also He doesn't have to punch someone or anything like that, he just has to be that strong. Garou perceives it.

That was blut vene, he used that to defend her attacks not attack her and in his post awakening key, he doesn't fight like that as he doesn't need to exert himself to block his entire body can be blocked with blut vene. That wasn't strength that was defense. Garou wouldn't perceive his strength like that.

He doesn't have to punch someone, he just has to be that strong and use it in any way. Garou perceives it

That wasn't strength that was defense, regardless in this key, uryu can use blut vene anywhere in his body so he doesn't need to actually use his hands to defend himself. You can check uryu vs Senjumaru round 2, or vs ichigo or vs renji.

First, this assumes he'll instantly use his best version in the key (to achieve 13x AP) at the start of the battle (Garou copies anyway though).

You said garou hits first, almost dying from the poison will force uryu to take garou out quickly once he sees he is very dangerous. Garou can't copy sadly.

Garou martial art, portals, gravity knuckles, any type of explosive attack.

Which is useless here, none of this would prevent uryu's win cons.

Show proof for "superior speed" please.

I already did in this thread, check my reply to kachon. Uryu vs Mayuri.

 

[Voidnether]

this boutta be 10 pages of yap for a bleach match again bro

Better than hsr vs bleach I'd say

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Better than hsr vs bleach I'd say

Ichigo Vs Aquila

 

[Specterxxxx]

You right, I thought OPM still had mftl+ stats. FTL ad still go crazy

There is nothing that shows his AD being FTL tho. We don't know the rate at which his AD increases too.

this boutta be 10 pages of yap for a bleach match again bro

Honestly.....

 

[Voidnether]

Ichigo Vs Aquila

Sometimes I'm wondering if I should just abandon the entire Aquila profile that I'm currently working on so this DOES NOT happen because what did Ichigo do to deserve this bruh..

Anyways though, about the matchup... Problem is that, Uryuu is just going to reverse everything back to its opponents as far as I know so except anyone could debunk Uryuu doing that. I just don't see garou winning ngl

 

[MrTayman616]

Anyways though, about the matchup... Problem is that, Uryuu is just going to reverse everything back to its opponents as far as I know so except anyone could debunk Uryuu doing that. I just don't see garou winning ngl

It's "damage reverse", he can't use it on the same opponent many times. Because he'll be taking their damage to himself in return. Also in case if Garou were to ever take a huge amount of damage from this, he just evolves and one shots.

 

[Arkenis]

There is nothing that shows his AD being FTL tho. We don't know the rate at which his AD increases too.

Fights at ftl

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Sometimes I'm wondering if I should just abandon the entire Aquila profile that I'm currently working on so this DOES NOT happen because what did Ichigo do to deserve this bruh..

Anyways though, about the matchup... Problem is that, Uryuu is just going to reverse everything back to its opponents as far as I know so except anyone could debunk Uryuu doing that. I just don't see garou winning ngl

Why are they galaxy + in durability and striking

 

[Voidnether]

It's "damage reverse", he can't use it on the same opponent many times. Because he'll be taking their damage to himself in return. Also in case if Garou were to ever take a huge amount of damage from this, he just evolves and one shots.

I see, but like when Uryuu used it in-character. He's aiming where the opponent just immediately dies the moment he did that (We see this happening with Jugram, he dies cause his powers were taken by Yhwach but you can see him lifeless before that due to Antithesis), so there's no way Garou would evolve if what Uryuu is doing to him is an insta-kill. Fair on the part where he can't use it multiple times, however though it's not like Uryuu is going to immediately die due to radiation since their distance is something that could be considered for and the farther he is from Garou = the unlikely that he's going to die. Realistically both characters are like way above standard human perception which benefits Uryuu in the long term. I think his intelligence could deduce that tho

 

[Specterxxxx]

It's "damage reverse", he can't use it on the same opponent many times. Because he'll be taking their damage to himself in return. Also in case if Garou were to ever take a huge amount of damage from this, he just evolves and one shots

You said yourself garou has regen and immortality to counter the effects of the poisoning, uryu would swap garou's healed state and use FTE movement to continually stay far from garou. So that does nothing.

Garou gets killed before he does any of that.

Also I want to point nothing says he can't reverse damage as much as he likes btw

 

[Voidnether]

Why are they galaxy + in durability and striking

Cause I haven't worked on that part, intelligence and speed only for statistics
Probably I'd continue tomorrow

 

[MrTayman616]

You said yourself garou has regen and immortality to counter the effects of the poisoning, uryu would swap garou's healed state and use FTL movement to continually stay far from garou. So that does nothing.

Uryuu is just going to reverse everything back to its opponents as far as I know

That's what he said. He didn't ask "he'll reverse radiation can someone debunk radiation reverse"

I see, but like when Uryuu used it in-character. He's aiming where the opponent just immediately dies the moment he did that (We see this happening with Jugram, he dies cause his powers were taken by Yhwach but you can see him lifeless before that due to Antithesis), so there's no way Garou would evolve if what Uryuu is doing to him is an insta-kill. Fair on the part where he can't use it multiple times, however though it's not like Uryuu is going to immediately die due to radiation since their distance is something that could be considered for and the farther he is from Garou = the unlikely that he's going to die. Realistically both characters are like way above standard human perception which benefits Uryuu in the long term. I think his intelligence could deduce that tho

How can he reverse something that insta kills?

Also Garou overcame insta-death many times and reached blitz + one shot levels by overcoming it.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Cause I haven't worked on that part, intelligence and speed only for statistics
Probably I'd continue tomorrow

Yeah ngl I didn’t realize this was just nikador’s profile edited lol

 

[MrTayman616]

gonna sleep rn. answer things tmrw.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Also I would like to point out that according to garou's accepted power graph, he was able to grow stronger from his baseline  ONLY 18.19× before he lost. A fight that took a very long time mind you and garou was boosting his AD by copying saitama's increase in strength meaning without copying he most likely wouldn't have become 18.19× times more powerful than his 112 exa foe key. I have already established he can't copy uryu due to uryu attacks being from his arrows and not his "striking strength" and uryu in this key doesn't use hands to defend but rather can instantly cover any part of his body or all parts with blut vene so he wouldn't engage physically with garou for garou to copy.

So how are we saying garou's AD can match and out pace an instant 13× power up attack from uryu when it took at least 7 to 10 minutes (reasonable time frame) for garou to be 18.19× more powerful than the key he is starting with? Based on this info we have no reason to believe garou will be compete with uryu's drastic AP increase before he gets killed in seconds when it would take minutes for garou to surpass that strength which uryu with volstanding arrows(nigh impossible to dodge in a equal speed match) or seele (a dura neg attack), homing arrows that shoot lasers and antithesis wouldn't overwhelm and counter garou attempts to evade?

Uryu killing garou before he matches with AD will happen long before garou can reach his level based on the power graph

 

[Specterxxxx]

That's what he said. He didn't ask "he'll reverse radiation can someone debunk radiation reverse"

I am only straightening things out for him

How can he reverse something that insta kills?

You haven't proven it kills uryu thought speed capacity, a speculative deduction holds no weight here.

Also Garou overcame insta-death many times and reached blitz + one shot levels by overcoming it.

Garou isn't overcoming his head being blown off or his chest.

Power graph begs to differ

 

[DavidTPPM]

Also I would like to point out that according to garou's accepted power graph, he was able to grow stronger from his baseline  ONLY 18.19× before he lost. A fight that took a very long time mind you and garou was boosting his AD by copying saitama's increase in strength meaning without copying he most likely wouldn't have become 18.19× times more powerful than his 112 exa foe key. I have already established he can't copy uryu due to uryu attacks being from his arrows and not his "striking strength" and uryu in this key doesn't use hands to defend but rather can instantly cover any part of his body or all parts with blut vene so he wouldn't engage physically with garou for garou to copy.

So how are we saying garou's AD can match and out pace an instant 13× power up attack from uryu when it took at least 7 to 10 minutes (reasonable time frame) for garou to be 18.19× more powerful than the key he is starting with? Based on this info we have no reason to believe garou will be compete with uryu's drastic AP increase before he gets killed in seconds when it would take minutes for garou to surpass that strength which uryu with volstanding arrows(nigh impossible to dodge in a equal speed match) or seele (a dura neg attack), homing arrows that shoot lasers and antithesis wouldn't overwhelm and counter garou attempts to evade?

Uryu killing garou before he matches with AD will happen long before garou can reach his level based on the power graph

Garous growth is a bit inconsistent with the graph as it tends to depend on how much he's pushed. While Saitama was by far the strongest most unbeatable opponent for Garou, he also didn't want to kill him so Garous AD was never THAT triggered. There's definitely times when he grows by blitz one shot amounts but that depends on the individual fight.

Garou is definitely not growing by a blitz one shot amount instantly unless Uryu gets him to a near death state while still keeping him alive

 

[Arkenis]

Garou is definitely not growing by a blitz one shot amount instantly unless Uryu gets him to a near death state while still keeping him alive

Wouldn't the Antithesis be doing exactly that? He hits Uryu, Uryu goes "A is for antithesis" Garou gets near death and grows from it.

 

[Raiden38]

GAROU VS URYŪ ISHIDA

• Fight takes place at karakura town where uryu is composed of physical matter(kishi) allowing garou to see and touch him.
• Both starting at their multi solar system level key, Uryu starting at base (460.38 Exa foe) to (13.81 Zetta foe) with full volstanding/blut arterie while Garou starts at his (112.79 Exa foe) key up to (2.095 Zetta foe) and anywhere up to universal levels of power should the fight be prolonged enough.
• SPEED is equalised.
• Standard SBA rules.

GAROU: @Kachon123 @Catbowtie @MrTayman616


URYU: @Specterxxxx, @Ebihara @CastoriceTheFifth @Johner2133451 @Voidnether


INCLON:

Garou FRA

 

[Specterxxxx]

Garous growth is a bit inconsistent with the graph as it tends to depend on how much he's pushed

. While Saitama was by far the strongest most unbeatable opponent for Garou, he also didn't want to kill him so Garous AD was never THAT triggered.

saitama pushed him way harder than any of his previous opponents (i am sure you know that) and garou also didn't know that saitama wasn't going to kill him, on the contrary he thought the opposite so this isn't an excuse or a counter.

There's definitely times when he grows by blitz one shot amounts but that depends on the individual fight.

And in those times he isn't fighting someone capable of a one shot gap, there is no need to corellate those fights to this one as the events in this fight will be fundamentally different.

Garou is definitely not growing by a blitz one shot amount instantly unless Uryu gets him to a near death state while still keeping him alive

Uryu won't get him to a near death state, uryu would overwhelm and kill him very quickly. And since he would have to reach a "death state" to have exp accelerated growth the chances of outpacing uryu before he gets killed are slim

 

[Specterxxxx]

Wouldn't the Antithesis be doing exactly that? He hits Uryu, Uryu goes "A is for antithesis" Garou gets near death and grows from it.

Garou grows exponentially in proportion to the strength of his opponents from their attacks, he can't gauge uryu's strength using antithesis nor will he understand what just happened quickly enough to. This wouldn't happen.

 

[Apotheosis69]

I'm gonna have to go with Garou FRA

 

[Specterxxxx]

Bump

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Uryu's icons are unfeasible in a fight against Garou, as he will not give space for a fight at a distance, as soon as the fight starts, Garou will go for CQC with the help of his portals which in itself would completely screw Uryu because of the instant death by radiation, but even if Uryu reflects this, Garou usually starts with the combination of portals + nuclear fission punch + gravity knucle, the nuclear fission punch would already end the fight as it would leave Uryu blind in addition to the instant death due to at least 224 dB of sound (185 dB would already kill a human)

 

[Farfetchedx]

Garou FRA