Garou vs Uryū ishida (9-5-1)

[Kachon123]

Grace in favor of Garou has started.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Uryu's icons are unfeasible in a fight against Garou,

as he will not give space for a fight at a distance, as soon as the fight starts, Garou will go for CQC with the help of his portals which in itself would completely screw Uryu because of the instant death by radiation,

The death isn't instant this has been established already.

but even if Uryu reflects this, Garou usually starts with the combination of portals + nuclear fission punch + gravity knucle, the nuclear fission punch would already end the fight as it would leave Uryu blind in addition to the instant death due to at least 224 dB of sound (185 dB would already kill a human)

Uryu can protect his eyes with blut, he wouldn't be blind from it not to mention having a sixth sense greater than sight. Missiles that generate large explosions generate this level of sound not just nukes and weaker quinces have survived it. Case in point, BG9 surviving soi fon's explosion at close range. This wouldn't kill him.

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

The death isn't instant this has been established already.

Yes, not at a distance of 4 km, now in CQC there is a Blast declaration that would be instantaneous

Uryu can protect his eyes with blut, he wouldn't be blind from it not to mention having a sixth sense greater than sight. Missiles that generate large explosions generate this level of sound not just nukes and weaker quinces have survived it. Case in point, BG9 surviving soi fon's explosion at close range. This wouldn't kill him.

Resistance to sound manipulation not in profile

 

[Johner2133451]

Grace in favor of Garou has started.

Votes are at 7-5 so grace for incon

 

[Specterxxxx]

Yes, not at a distance of 4 km, now in CQC there is a Blast declaration that would be instantaneous

Again, it has been established on this thread, that radiation from nukes and passive exposure wouldn't kill uryu faster than he can reflect as uryu's thought speed is atleast sub rel this isn't a win con.

Resistance to sound manipulation not in profile

Not directly yes, but BG9 survival of soi fon's missile explosion is in BG9's profile and uryu is massively superior.

 

[Infinite9Luck]

I think it's inconclusive for me, too much variables, both side had made convincing arguments.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Before we continue, I think garou's win cons should be reestablished. I have already addressed his win cons like power mimicry, radiation poisoning and exponential growth are either not feasible or not happening for the following reasons.

• Power mimicry or copy isn't going to work as uryu's attacks come from his arrows and he wouldn't use his striking strength in this key (as blut can protect his body without needing to engage physically with garou like he did to senjumaru in a previous weaker key) and garou needs to see the attack being exerted physically to copy uryu's 13× strength so this isn't valid win con.
• Radiation poisoning from passive aura exposure and nuke fists/ gravity knuckle can kill from milli seconds to minutes. Uryu's perception and thought speed takes 1.97929655e-7 seconds or moves at sub rel speed to understand that he is dying and reverse any damage happening before he dies back to garou. So this also wouldn't kill him until garou becomes to fast and too strong (which would take minutes) for uryu which according to uryu's cold genius character and AP advantage and quicker win cons wouldn't allow.
• Exponential growth has already been addressed in this thread that the accepted power graph shows garou taking a long time (estimate 7 to 10 mins) to reach 18.19× stronger than his baseline key 112 exa foe, this win con would be much slower than uryu's ability to instantly become 13× stronger and end the fight in the span of seconds by overwhelming garou with arrows from an infinite source, FTE movement techniques and volstanding kill shot arrows or seele (dura neg).

From what I have seen uryu's win cons remain faster and more feasible than garou and not the other way around. But I hope this can be addressed let it not be that I am spreading misinformation.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Believe in the you that believes in yourself.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Pretty sure this is just an insta YAKK by Garou's radiation... I am not cooking
Garou FRA.

 

[Kachon123]

Votes are at 7-5 so grace for incon

King_Gorilla4002-8922 said that he believes Garou wins.

And with Arkansalter2's vote, that goes to 9-5.

 

[Catbowtie]

King_Gorilla4002-8922 said that he believes Garou wins.

We're going to need a source for this pal.

 

[Kachon123]

We're going to need a source for this pal.

Here - he gave a few reasons why he thinks Garou would win.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Here - he gave a few reasons why he thinks Garou would win.

He merely said uryu win cons are unfeasible as to whichever reasons and gave a possible win con for garou to which I have addressed and countered. This isn't a vote. Some people have done the same for uryu but they haven't made a vote yet so I didn't add them. Grace has started tho.

Pretty sure this is just an insta YAKK by Garou's radiation... I am not cooking

Radiation poisoning from passive aura exposure and nuke fists/ gravity knuckle can kill from milli seconds to minutes. Uryu's perception and thought speed takes 1.97929655e-7 seconds or moves at sub rel speed to understand that he is dying and reverse any damage happening before he dies back to garou. So this also wouldn't kill him until garou becomes to fast and too strong (which would take minutes) for uryu which according to uryu's cold genius character and AP advantage and quicker win cons wouldn't allow.

Do y'all read the thread or what. A lot of yall "win cons" are ignoring my counters to said win cons and repeating it again.

 

[Specterxxxx]

Grace has started.

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Again, it has been established on this thread, that radiation from nukes and passive exposure wouldn't kill uryu faster than he can reflect as uryu's thought speed is atleast sub rel this isn't a win con.

Passive radiation is ok, but nuclear fission radiation is killing him immediately,He will be at the center of the fission where the grays are in the thousands being hit by everyone at the speed of light, the sub-relativistic reaction will not be enough

Not directly yes, but BG9 survival of soi fon's missile explosion is in BG9's profile and uryu is massively superior.

They are incomparable to Garou's, the decibels increase as the bomb's power increases, 224 dB is that of Tsar, Garou's are almost the size of the moon Io.

Garou FRA

 

[Specterxxxx]

Passive radiation is ok, but nuclear fission radiation is killing him immediately,He will be at the center of the fission where the grays are in the thousands being hit by everyone at the speed of light, the sub-relativistic reaction will not be enough

His nuclear fission emits smaller than his passive radiation lol, you would have to prove it killing someone who is going to be 10× more durable thinking at sub rel speeds if not this is just a speculation. Radiation moves at light speed, doesn't kill someone at light speed. They are two different things.

They are incomparable to Garou's, the decibels increase as the bomb's power increases, 224 dB is that of Tsar, Garou's are almost the size of the moon Io.

Again it doesn't matter, the sound released from these explosions produce are similar. 224db is on his profile. There is no sound magnitude from his explosions on the moon in his profile. This wouldn't kill him.

 

[MrTayman616]

Is this finished or?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Yeah Grace has already finished

 

[Specterxxxx]

This match should be closed, grace has already been passed.