That's not a Super... (Dante vs The Boys)

[Pyro9278]

The Boys: 2 ( @Random-Helper323 @Tony_di_bugalu )

• Anything over 8-C restricted (Temp-V and Super Members allowed).
• No preparation time.

Dante Sparda: 7 ( @Drite77 @Emerald @SuperSonicTL @Mister6ame6 @Arkansalter2 @Pyro9278 @MannyQ361 )

• Dante starts in his DT.
• He has access to all his weapons.
• Dante is in character. Dante knows they are looking for him and knows about The Boys.

The fight takes place in Dante's office, with both starting at opposite ends of the building. Equal Speed. SBA applies to everything else

 

[Drite77]

Hm

 

[Drite77]

"knows about the Boys" Does Dante knows they use Halothane or not?

 

[Pyro9278]

"knows about the Boys" Does Dante knows they use Halothane or not?

Yeah

 

[Drite77]

Yeah

Modus Operandi? Also which Butcher is this one?

 

[Pyro9278]

Modus Operandi? Also which Butcher is this one?

Butcher base. He's not powered by Temp-V.

I don't know much about their modus operandi, but my understanding is that The Boys would attack with everything they have.

 

[Drite77]

Butcher base. He's not powered by Temp-V.

I don't know much about their modus operandi, but my understanding is that The Boys would attack with everything they have.

But you're allowing Temp-V...

 

[Pyro9278]

But you're allowing Temp-V...

But nothing higher than 8-C

 

[Drite77]

But nothing higher than 8-C

Is the one with the tendrils not allowed?

 

[Random-Helper323]

But nothing higher than 8-C

Butcher's third key is that level. The one with the tumor powers or whatever they are.

Anyway, this boils down to Nante against Kimiko, Starlight and Hughie, when push comes to shove. The others likely get totaled, even if Nante has a pretty checkered record when it comes to evading projectiles. If we're using their 9-A option then he has them overwhelmed by more than three times and can DT on top of that making it a stomp, so I'm guessing it's their possibly 8-C level.

If we go with that, then his base form is outclassed, 0.0716 tons vs 0.428 tons, just short of a X6 AP gap. He'd need to transform to stand a chance, and in that form he turns it around, with 0.833 tons vs the aforementioned 0.428 tons, a X1.6 AP gap in his favour, although that's against three enemies. I do notice that his only way to stop Kimiko is decapitation, his DT doesn't last all that long and only gives him a X1.6 advantage, he doesn't use his sword in DT, and once his DT fades he's now facing three enemies who outclass him by six times.

I'm leaning towards the Boys if we use the super characters' possibly 8-C versions, alternatively if we use their 9-A versions it's a stomp in Nante's favour.

 

[AThe1412]

The others likely get totaled, even if this Dante has a pretty checkered record when it comes to evading projectiles.

I'm pretty sure speed equalization would make the team's guns capable of blitzing Dante, though he can still aim-dodge. The human members should be able to hurt him via piercing damage since guns in the Boys can still harm some 9-A/8-C supes who aren't bulletproof. He'll also lose his equipment if Hughie manages to teleport him away.

 

[Pyro9278]

Butcher's third key is that level. The one with the tumor powers or whatever they are.

Anyway, this boils down to Dante against Kimiko, Starlight and Hughie, when push comes to shove. The others likely get totaled, even if this Dante has a pretty checkered record when it comes to evading projectiles. If we're using their 9-A option then he has them overwhelmed by more than three times and can DT on top of that making it a stomp, so I'm guessing it's their possibly 8-C level.

If we go with that, then his base form is outclassed, 0.0716 tons vs 0.428 tons, just short of a X6 AP gap. He'd need to transform to stand a chance, and in that form he turns it around, with 0.833 tons vs the aforementioned 0.428 tons, a X1.6 AP gap in his favour, although that's against three enemies. I do notice that his only way to stop Kimiko is decapitation, his DT doesn't last all that long and only gives him a X1.6 advantage, he doesn't use his sword in DT, and once his DT fades he's now facing three enemies who outclass him by six times.

I'm leaning towards the Boys if we use the super characters' possibly 8-C versions, alternatively if we use their 9-A versions it's a stomp in Dante's favour.

Dante has prior knowledge about The Boys, so he wouldn't stay at their base for long. He'd likely ambush the human members using the environment to his advantage, then engage the Supes and Temp-V-enhanced fighters head-on.

While Kimiko and Hughie have an AP advantage in close quarters, they couldn't rush to kill Dante since his regeneration would quickly heal any severe damage. I'm not convinced they're skilled enough to finish him quickly. Starlight might perform better in this scenario, but even then, Dante is skilled enough to evade her and generally handle all three of them simultaneously without much trouble.

The real problem would come when Dante tries to counterattack - though it's not like he couldn't fight them to death, he just lacks a direct means to do so. I should also note he has an LS advantage, though this would mainly prevent them from easily subduing him mid-combat.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I'm pretty sure speed equalization would make the team's guns capable of blitzing Dante, though he can still aim-dodge. The human members should be able to hurt him via piercing damage since guns in the Boys can still harm some 9-A/8-C supes who aren't bulletproof.

I guess. They're kind of just the minor irritations on the side though.

He'll also lose his equipment if Hughie manages to teleport him away.

Yeah, that's true of course. I did count Hughie as one of his opponents, although I only gave special attention to Kimiko's regeneration.

 

[AThe1412]

Dante has prior knowledge about The Boys, so he wouldn't stay at their base for long. He'd likely ambush the human members using the environment to his advantage, then engage the Supes and Temp-V-enhanced fighters head-on.

All Supes have enhanced hearing and Dante has no stealth mastery.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Dante has prior knowledge about The Boys, so he wouldn't stay at their base for long.

? I assume you mean he won't stay in base form for long.

While Kimiko and Hughie have an AP advantage in close quarters, they couldn't rush to kill Dante since his regeneration would quickly heal any severe damage. I'm not convinced they're skilled enough to finish him quickly. Starlight might perform better in this scenario, but even then, Dante is skilled enough to evade her and generally handle all three of them simultaneously without much trouble.

I don't know. times six AP gap in addition to 1v3... And very little means to take Kimiko down...

 

[Pyro9278]

All Supes have enhanced hearing and Dante has no stealth mastery.

You don’t need stealth mastery to ambush someone—especially if the character has done it before (though Dante wouldn’t be a bad choice for stealth mastery, ngl). Either way, yes, enhanced hearing would prevent the Supes from being taken down easily, but not the human members with firearms.

 

[Pyro9278]

?

• Dante knows they are looking for him and knows about The Boys.

 

[AThe1412]

And very little means to take Kimiko down...

Decapitation is an option, but that's assuming he'll have the opportunity to pull it off without the others ganking him or Hughie teleporting either of them away.

 

[Pyro9278]

I don't know. times six AP gap in addition to 1v3... And very little means to take Kimiko down...

I never said it would be easy, besides, nothing stops Hughie from disarming him.

 

[Drite77]

he doesn't use his sword in DT

He doesn't use the Rebellion because he can't, The Force Edge is still something he can use and I don't see why he wouldn't

 

[Drite77]

I'm pretty sure speed equalization would make the team's guns capable of blitzing Dante, though he can still aim-dodge. The human members should be able to hurt him via piercing damage since guns in the Boys can still harm some 9-A/8-C supes who aren't bulletproof. He'll also lose his equipment if Hughie manages to teleport him away.

Dante is a likely a better shooter then them, and he can also parry the bullets with his own + also just shoot them, a headshot can incap him, but any body shot on any of them without Regen is debilitating

 

[Drite77]

I'm not convinced they're skilled enough to finish him quickly. Starlight might perform better in this scenario, but even then, Dante is skilled enough to evade her and generally handle all three of them simultaneously without much trouble.

I'll note Dante can still be knocked out, with a 6x AP advantage against 3 opponents while having to evade gun fire and likely serynges that can insta incap him, he ain't doing it, specially if the Boys know once he enters DT he'll have an advantage on them, they would prioritize incapping him before.

This smells of stomp to me

 

[Random-Helper323]

I'll note Dante can still be knocked out, with a 6x AP advantage against 3 opponents while having to evade gun fire and likely serynges that can insta incap him, he ain't doing it, specially if the Boys know once he enters DT he'll have an advantage on them, they would prioritize incapping him before.

Plus it's only a times 1.6 AP gap in DT, and doesn't last all that long. And once it fades he's got three people, each with a six times AP gap over him, landing on him. So basically he has to use DT straight away and then quickly take down everyone, including Kimiko who he's going to have trouble finishing off, all before his DT fades (once again, only a times 1.6 advantage), and once it fades, if any one of the super team members is still standing, he's about to be crushed by them. Pretty steep win condition...

This smells of stomp to me

Same here.

 

[Pyro9278]

This smells of stomp to me

What if The Boys had no prep time and Dante started in DT?

 

[Random-Helper323]

What if The Boys had no prep time and Dante started in DT?

Not sure the prep time has been that much of a factor here.

Starting in DT might help, but it's still likely it'll fade before he can win.

 

[AThe1412]

Dante is a likely a better shooter then them, and he can also parry the bullets with his own + also just shoot them, a headshot can incap him, but any body shot on any of them without Regen is debilitating

What are his feats with guns? Can he parry bullets that can blitz him from multiple people? I saw peeps on another thread argue that Leon from Resident Evil would skillstomp this version of Dante and he certainly can't pull a Wanted bullet intercept. Also, are his guns as strong as his body since he apparently breaks them on a daily basis?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Also, are his guns as strong as his body since he apparently breaks them on a daily basis?

No, his guns are normal and frequently break.

 

[Drite77]

What are his feats with guns? Can he parry bullets that can blitz him from multiple people? I saw peeps on another thread argue that Leon from Resident Evil would skillstomp this version of Dante and he certainly can't pull a Wanted bullet intercept. Also, are his guns as strong as his body since he apparently breaks them on a daily basis?

Wait a few hours and if I am not in a hospital I'll grab them, huge int on my part to not record clips for that. Also, I was there, Leon wouldn't skill stomp Dante, a lot of those were people who clearly hate Dante saying it, although I am of the opinion Leon's more skilled then Dante but that's not relevant here

 

[Pyro9278]

Not sure the prep time has been that much of a factor here.

Starting in DT might help, but it's still likely it'll fade before he can win.

Well, without prep time there'd be no prior knowledge of his actions, so that's something at least. And I've already changed the DT, Dante will now start with it active

 

[Drite77]

DT dante lasts a couple of minutes, can't measure it now but I don't the fight would last more then 5 minutes

 

[Random-Helper323]

Wait a few hours and if I am not in a hospital I'll grab them

Hope you're okay. I've been to hospital a few times recently, so I can sympathize.

huge int on my part to not record clips for that.

Yes, naughty Drite. No more chocolate privileges.

Also, I was there, Leon wouldn't skill stomp Dante, a lot of those were people who clearly hate Dante saying it

It might be more to do with experience given how experienced Leon is against all different enemies. Still, back on topic, Dante definitely has the Boys outskilled.

DT dante lasts a couple of minutes, can't measure it now but I don't the fight would last more then 5 minutes

He has to beat all of them in that time with only a times 1.6 AP advantage, and once it ends he's finished. It's still a tall order for him.

 

[AThe1412]

Well, without prep time there'd be no prior knowledge of his actions, so that's something at least. And I've already changed the DT, Dante will now start with it active

Prep time doesn't automatically grant them prior knowledge. How would they even learn anything about him? Also, they need prep to grab stuff like halothane because they don't have a way to keep him down otherwise.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Also, they need prep to grab stuff like halothane because they don't have a way to keep him down otherwise.

They do, a times six AP advantage would allow for the quick destruction of any body part hit by Starlight, Hughie or Kimiko. Including his head.

 

[Drite77]

What are his feats with guns? Can he parry bullets that can blitz him from multiple people

Btw, I checked, when speed is equalized, it equalizes to the fastes character, bullets won't Blitz Dante

 

[Drite77]

Hope you're okay. I've been to hospital a few times recently, so I can sympathize.

Appreciate it buddy, it might not happen, afaik, nothing life threatening as of currently, also hope you're doing well on your end

 

[AThe1412]

Btw, I checked, when speed is equalized, it equalizes to the fastes character, bullets won't Blitz Dante

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"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc."

 

[Drite77]

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"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc."

I re-read, am at work so that's on me. Will try to give a more in depth insight once I'm home and all that Jazz

 

[Random-Helper323]

Appreciate it buddy, it might not happen, afaik, nothing life threatening as of currently, also hope you're doing well on your end

Thanks. I got over the illness, even if my two trips to the emergency room and subsequent bedrest on both doctor's and boss's orders got me fired. Still, I've moved on, and I think that company was circling the ole toilet bowl anyway, so maybe it's good riddance.

Anyway, I think Dante is most likely to lose this one. Maybe some skill showings could change my mind though, since the Boys aren't exactly a skilled bunch, given we have Kimiko who over relies on her regeneration, Hughie whose move is to get naked and jump all over his opponent (maybe Dante will be too busy laughing at his butt and get hit?) which leaves only Starlight as a trained fighter, and not all that much.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I thought for single moment this was Canon Dante 8C key lol.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I thought for single moment this was Canon Dante 8C key lol.

I came here thinking the same lol

Anyways, Nante loses fra