Sechs vs Doom

[Arkenis]

Sechs vs Doom
Sechs starts in Ionized State
Doom starts at 70%, Thirds is restricted
Equal Speed
Sechs:
Doom:
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[Ebihara]

@AnAverageUsername is basically only suppoter. Let's hope we can summon him

 

[AnAverageUsername]

@AnAverageUsername is basically only suppoter. Let's hope we can summon him

I am flattered that this is my status, and since I now have a working laptop available, I can work on profiles again

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IF WE HAD AP CALCS FOR THE GOD TIERS THAT IS

 

[Ebihara]

People just get stuff wrong in mashle matchups without you lol.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Alright, looking at Sech's profile, none of his abilities seem all too useful against Doom aside for that internal destruction stuff. The main thing carrying him here is his initial AP advantage, which should be enough to one shot Doom nearly a hundred times over

...Iiiiiiif Doom's higher percentages didnt smack the fear of god into the poor guy. 80% alone was enough to overcome a hundred times gap between himself and Ryoh's Thirds, while also one shotting god's greatest creation himself through said Thirds. And then he just keeps getting stronger and stronger, which considering his 100% is described as "uncharted" by Doom himself and was able to body UPM Mash, Doom would end up with the insurmountanle power advantage in the end, with the ability to either use his Secondths to create a hundred copies of his sword, or simply summoning 4 other versions of himself to lay the smackdown on Sechs even harder.

There is only Doom in the end.

 

[Arkenis]

Alright, looking at Sech's profile, none of his abilities seem all too useful against Doom aside for that internal destruction stuff. The main thing carrying him here is his initial AP advantage, which should be enough to one shot Doom nearly a hundred times over

...Iiiiiiif Doom's higher percentages didnt smack the fear of god into the poor guy. 80% alone was enough to overcome a hundred times gap between himself and Ryoh's Thirds, while also one shotting god's greatest creation himself through said Thirds. And then he just keeps getting stronger and stronger, which considering his 100% is described as "uncharted" by Doom himself and was able to body UPM Mash, Doom would end up with the insurmountanle power advantage in the end, with the ability to either use his Secondths to create a hundred copies of his sword, or simply summoning 4 other versions of himself to lay the smackdown on Sechs even harder.

There is only Doom in the end.

Thirds is restricted

And dooms still just 3x stronger. Sechs can also just

• Damage Reduction (Can inflate to absorb the shock energy from hits)
• Energy Manipulation, Absorption (Able to shift energy put into him from strikes and absorb it)

 

[AnAverageUsername]

This isn't about his Thirds, it's about his 80% and above being vastly superior

And dooms still just 3x stronger. Sechs can also just

• Damage Reduction (Can inflate to absorb the shock energy from hits)
• Energy Manipulation, Absorption (Able to shift energy put into him from strikes and absorb it)

3x stronger with subsequent amps that are so powerful it makes him unstoppable against those who could match him. Again, his 100% is so strong that even while using his UPM, Mash couldn't do anything meaningful against Doom, who's power was described as uncharted by himself compared to his last percentages. And then his Maximum Output is even greater than that. This is also ignoring the speed buffs he should also get alongside these power buffs since his master cane is all about enhancing his physical stats in general.

Has Sech's damage reduction and energy manipulation been shown to contend with characters stronger than him to such a degree?

 

[Arkenis]

Has Sech's damage reduction and energy manipulation been shown to contend with characters stronger than him to such a degree?

Zekka is stronger than him. The exaton amount they scale to isn't really their lower stats so its definitely smaller than 3x. Zekka's chop was pretty much just in a fit of rage while his other strikes are him actually trying to fight and enjoying the fight. I'd say he wouldn't even need to reduce or absorb the attacks to counteract the ap here, although that will definitely aid him since he can send this energy internally into any attack when he wants.

 

[Epiccheev]

I'm guessing Sechs(hopefully not pronounced as sexs) Illusions won't work on a blind man.
His body control is better than Mash's, wich could be a burden, Doom is around 4.5x stronger in LS. His magic also can go from simply making illusions to actually making 100x of clones.
Will Sechs be beaten if his plasma state is scattered around enough or is he always able to reform his body eventually?

 

[Arkenis]

Will Sechs be beaten if his plasma state is scattered around enough or is he always able to reform his body eventually?

It's not the real Sechs, just clones

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Zekka is stronger than him.

But to what degree

The exaton amount they scale to isn't really their lower stats so its definitely smaller than 3x.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. From what Sech's profile says in his most powerful state, he's 2.41 exatons. Doom in his 80% stage however, completely overpowered Ryoh's Thirds and cleaved through him in just one swing.

Zekka's chop was pretty much just in a fit of rage while his other strikes are him actually trying to fight and enjoying the fight. I'd say he wouldn't even need to reduce or absorb the attacks to counteract the ap here, although that will definitely aid him since he can send this energy internally into any attack when he wants.

So are you trying to say that Sechs (or Zekka now?) Is able to absorb Doom's strikes for his own power? Because He's going to have to contend with a one shot gap, and Doom should be able to tank his own power due to his stamina and regeneration, which won't be sapped by his Maximum output considering that's only needed when someone actually pushes him to that level.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I'm guessing Sechs(hopefully not pronounced as sexs) Illusions won't work on a blind man.
His body control is better than Mash's, wich could be a burden, Doom is around 4.5x stronger in LS. His magic also can go from simply making illusions to actually making 100x of clones.

Only with his Thirds, which is restricted. He's still able to make 4 copies of himself though. And..... his Summons too? At that point Doom just one shots due to a 10x+ AP diff.

 

[Arkenis]

But to what degree

Not too sure. Really just that Zekka was mostly not trying his hardest.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. From what Sech's profile says in his most powerful state, he's 2.41 exatons. Doom in his 80% stage however, completely overpowered Ryoh's Thirds and cleaved through him in just one swing.

The 2.41 exatons is for one feat that doesn't represent the maximum of Zekka or Sech's ap.

So are you trying to say that Sechs (or Zekka now?) Is able to absorb Doom's strikes for his own power? Because He's going to have to contend with a one shot gap, and Doom should be able to tank his own power due to his stamina and regeneration, which won't be sapped by his Maximum output considering that's only needed when someone actually pushes him to that level.

A one shot gap is 8x, that isn't apparent here. No we're talking about Sechs, Zekka's who the 2.41 exatons comes from.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Not too sure. Really just that Zekka was mostly not trying his hardest.


The 2.41 exatons is for one feat that doesn't represent the maximum of Zekka or Sech's ap.

Then what is the maximum, because looking at Sechs' and the verse page, 2.41 exatons seems to be the cap for the characters.

A one shot gap is 8x, that isn't apparent here. No we're talking about Sechs, Zekka's who the 2.41 exatons comes from.

It really feels like it keeps changing here-

Okay, and if Sech's is only relative against a Zekka who was not trying his hardest, a character that scales to 2.41 exatons in this case, it means he's going to get his shit kicked in. Doom one shot Ryoh's most powerful attack, which is listed at 7.86 exatons. Doom did this to an attack that at the very least is a 3x something advantage over Sechs, no?

 

[Arkenis]

Then what is the maximum, because looking at Sechs' and the verse page, 2.41 exatons seems to be the cap for the characters.

Not exact. It is more higher than 2.41 is all.

Okay, and if Sech's is only relative against a Zekka who was not trying his hardest, a character that scales to 2.41 exatons in this case, it means he's going to get his shit kicked in. Doom one shot Ryoh's most powerful attack, which is listed at 7.86 exatons. Doom did this to an attack that at the very least is a 3x something advantage over Sechs, no?

When he fights Sechs he is actually trying and using true strikes, it's something he rarely uses if that makes it more clear as how much more serious he is. That matters, but Sechs also contends with Zekka using stronger attacks, and surpasses Zekka's old body. It'd just be this 2.41 exatons < serious Zekka ~ Sechs and then there's just the fact he can tank dozens of hits from Zekka and counter with his own. I'd argue his clones should also make it a bit more harder for Doom to land the hits also.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Not exact. It is more higher than 2.41 is all.

So it's unquantifiably higher, got it

When he fights Sechs he is actually trying and using true strikes, it's something he rarely uses if that makes it more clear as how much more serious he is. That matters, but Sechs also contends with Zekka using stronger attacks, and surpasses Zekka's old body. It'd just be this 2.41 exatons < serious Zekka ~ Sechs and then there's just the fact he can tank dozens of hits from Zekka and counter with his own. I'd argue his clones should also make it a bit more harder for Doom to land the hits also.

Ah, I think I misread your previous post in that regard. Still, this is all just unquantifiably higher than 2.41 exatons. And even then, Doom has his own ridiculously high scaling chain that puts him massively above other characters before he starts raising his power. And Doom one shotting and no-selling a 7.86 exaton attack would mean he would do the same to Sech, even without resorting to his Summons.

 

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