The Psychic vs The Calamity - Kusuo Saiki Vs Yogiri Takatou

[Edutyn]

R1: Equal Speed
R2: Unequal speed
SBA
Saiki Without Limiters vs Present Yogiri
Start at 50m apart

The Psychic	The Calamity	Incon
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[Wankbreaker]

Following.

 

[Gamecooob]

ok so how can either one of them put eachother down?
both of them have some insane shit, especially Saiki

 

[Pedonar]

If I’m not mistaken, Saiki can’t affect him since he has no feats of his plot manipulation or any of his other abilities working on Type 1 Abstract Existence

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Given the nature of Yogiri's abilities... Doesn't he kill Saiki K conceptually before he uses his abilities to directly harm him or am I tripping.. cuz Saiki doesn't resist his conceptual erasure hax. And I doubt Saiki starts with his

 

[Edutyn]

Sorry for the delay, for some reason I didn't receive the notifications.

If I’m not mistaken, Saiki can’t affect him since he has no feats of his plot manipulation or any of his other abilities working on Type 1 Abstract Existence

This is Present Yogiri, not The End.

Given the nature of Yogiri's abilities... Doesn't he kill Saiki K conceptually before he uses his abilities to directly harm him or am I tripping.. cuz Saiki doesn't resist his conceptual erasure hax.

Saiki's precognition will activate the moment something is about to happen to him, allowing him to avoid danger. In this case teleporting to another place or universe. That or nullify his abilities

And I doubt Saiki starts with his

I assume you mean his Concep & Information EE?

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Saiki's precognition will activate the moment something is about to happen to him, allowing him to avoid danger. In this case teleporting to another place or universe.

I mean. Precognition is fine and all but any form of harmful intent shown towards Yogiri would be ggs. And that's be happening during the entire match basically .. Knowing the danger present is pretty good but it's useless if he can't change it especially when Yogiri can kill people ahead of time (Specifically Immeasurable speed characters) aswell as people who can see the future. Precognition really doesn't stop Saiki from dying the moment he mentally harbors harmful intent to launch an attack. His fate is sealed based on his first indirect move.

I assume you mean his Concep & Information EE?

Yah :3

 

[Edutyn]

I mean. Precognition is fine and all but any form of harmful intent shown towards Yogiri would be ggs. And that's be happening during the entire match basically .. Knowing the danger present is pretty good but it's useless if he can't change it especially when Yogiri can kill people ahead of time (Specifically Immeasurable speed characters) aswell as people who can see the future. Precognition really doesn't stop Saiki from dying the moment he mentally harbors harmful intent to launch an attack. His fate is sealed based on his first indirect move.

I am sure that teleporting away does not count as intention.
Anyways, how does Yogiri's power work exactly?
And how does it affect beings that do not have magic or the UES of his verse?

:3

What kind of Lovecraftian creature is this?

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I am sure that teleporting away does not count as intention.

Due to SBA, Yogiri deems Saiki as a threat so he'd just murber him with a thought in the instance he decides to poof. Teleporting away doesn't necessarily solve the problem when he kinda just range diffs him to hell and back;

Standard Melee Range normally, Universal, likely Multiversal & Interdimensional with powers

Anyways, how does Yogiri's power work exactly?

Basically just as the profile says, Yogiri being the end of all things gives him the power to "kill", "erase" and "destroy" anything deemed indestructible, immortal or invincible by doing so to their whole idea & being.

• Extrasensory Perception (Can see the black lines of death)

He is able to pinpoint whatever attack is destined to kill him for Instant Death (His skill) intercept them first.

• Enhanced Senses (Can sense killing intent and also predict any potential harm towards himself or his allies.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Volume_1_Chapter_7-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Chapter_1_ACT1_Episode_7-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> Any action Yogiri deems an attack on his well-being activates his power.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a> Yogiri now considered BFR to be an attack and will kill the user before the BFR's effect<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Chapter_11_ACT1_Episode_3-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a>)

Ofc. Instant Death as well as Yogiri is capable of sensing the killing intent of a person to effectively eliminate the threat. Also BFR'ing equates to death

• Limited Cosmic Awareness (Yogiri is able to see those who intend to harm him while they are located in 4-Dimensional space.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a> Additionally, once Yogiri becomes aware of their existence,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-13"><span>[</span>13<span>]</span></a> he is able to observe whatever they are doing wherever they are, even if they are located in another dimension<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-14"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a>)

It is borderline useless to try and attack with Yogiri from another dimension. Saiki K is getting cooked in that regard here.

• Instinctive Reaction (Can target people even when asleep<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Volume_5_Chapter_2-15"><span>[</span>15<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Chapter_5_ACT1_Episode_2-16"><span>[</span>16<span>]</span></a>)

Instant Death still works even even unconscious/asleep.

• Power Nullification (Can "kill" the powers of a target<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Volume_4_Chapter_21-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a><a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Chapter_4_ACT2_Episode_20-24"><span>[</span>24<span>]</span></a>)

He can straight up erase Saiki's powers if he deems them a threat.

Anything else, his profile covers.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

And how does it affect beings that do not have magic or the UES of his verse?

Oops. Unsure of that. A supporter should be able to explain this part

 

[SweetDao]

Oops. Unsure of that. A supporter should be able to explain this part

I assumed the same problem would exist for crossverse. Realistically, since I talked about it on-site and outside of it, you can assume that "magical power" here isn't really an exotic fundamental aspect, but just type 3 concepts to avoid any unnecessary problem.

 

[SweetDao]

R2, Yogiri gets stomped instantly.

R1, I'm unsure.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

I assumed the same problem would exist for crossverse. Realistically, since I talked about it on-site and outside of it, you can assume that "magical power" here isn't really an exotic fundamental aspect, but just type 3 concepts to avoid any unnecessary problem.

Yeah.. based on how they showcase his power. It isn't limited to just "magical components" because inverse he is seen as this guy who can kill anything within the verse, anything or any being fundamentally the same or different. It'd be strange to deem it only magical cuz that'd be missing be the point of his intital power that's what I think thooo. I swear this guy is a living NLF

 

[SweetDao]

Yeah.. based on how they showcase his power. It isn't limited to just "magical components" because inverse he is seen as this guy who can kill anything within the verse, anything or any being fundamentally the same or different. It'd be strange to deem it only magical cuz that'd be missing be the point of his intital power that's what I think thooo

No, you misunderstand what I mean. Magical Power is another name for the "Power of Existence" or "The thing that makes things as they are", everyone/everything has that kind of power, otherwise, they wouldn't exist.

What he does is erasing the concept of something so that it can never exist again (and can't be brought back anyway). Momentum, Plants, Doors, Spells, People, Worlds, Space, Zombies, Spaceships, Ghost, Gods, Weapons, ... Everything has it.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

No, you misunderstand what I mean. Magical Power is another name for the "Power of Existence" or "The thing that makes things as they are", everyone/everything has that kind of power, otherwise, they wouldn't exist.

What he does is erasing the concept of something so that it can never exist again (and can't be brought back anyway). Momentum, Plants, Doors, Spells, People, Worlds, Space, Zombies, Spaceships, Ghost, Gods, Weapons, ... Everything has it.

Oohhh I seeee

 

[Edutyn]

Due to SBA, Yogiri deems Saiki as a threat so he'd just murber him with a thought in the instance he decides to poof. Teleporting away doesn't necessarily solve the problem when he kinda just range diffs him to hell and back;

Technically, Saiki can use Psy Energy to teleport himself to another part of his verse, whose cosmology is 2-A. Teleportation should also work. Plot Manipulation also has this range.

Basically just as the profile says, Yogiri being the end of all things gives him the power to "kill", "erase" and "destroy" anything deemed indestructible, immortal or invincible by doing so to their whole idea & being.

So like RW? Cuz Saiki resist RW and CM 3

He is able to pinpoint whatever attack is destined to kill him for Instant Death (His skill) intercept them first.
Ofc. Instant Death as well as Yogiri is capable of sensing the killing intent of a person to effectively eliminate the threat. Also BFR'ing equates to death

So he's racist? Noted.
Jokes aside, he question is, how does this ability work with people who have no murderous intent? Let's say there is a frightened child whose passive ability allows him to lobotomize people. Naturally, the child does not want to cause harm, so he has no murderous intent, but his ability always causes harm. Will Yogiri's ability activate even though the child has no murderous intent?

The same thing happens, but not as extreme, with Saiki's petrification. Saiki doesn't want to use this ability or hurt others, but petrification is always active.

It is borderline useless to try and attack with Yogiri from another dimension. Saiki K is getting cooked in that regard here.

Yogiri range is "only" universal, likely multiversal. But Saiki has abilities that work in 2-A range.

Instant Death still works even even unconscious/asleep.

Saiki, at one point, is capable of using his powers without thinking

He can straight up erase Saiki's powers if he deems them a threat.

Saiki resiste Power Null

 

[SweetDao]

Jokes aside, he question is, how does this ability work with people who have no murderous intent? Let's say there is a frightened child whose passive ability allows him to lobotomize people. Naturally, the child does not want to cause harm, so he has no murderous intent, but his ability always causes harm. Will Yogiri's ability activate even though the child has no murderous intent?

This is because his power is currently mischaracterized. It's not "harm" against him, it's stuff that "doesn't let him live a normal life".
He got BFR into another CF because, first and foremost, his power was sealed at that moment, and secondly, he didn't consider this a problem. When he was a child, he was immediately sent into a "dream world" and lived there, but his power didn't activate because he was ultimately fine with it.

Yogiri range is "only" universal, likely multiversal. But Saiki has abilities that work in 2-A range.

I mean, even if you attack him from another dimension, as long as it ends up traveling one way or another into his territory, it wouldn't work ig?

The same thing happens, but not as extreme, with Saiki's petrification. Saiki doesn't want to use this ability or hurt others, but petrification is always active.

This wouldn't work, probably.

 

[Edutyn]

This is because his power is currently mischaracterized. It's not "harm" against him, it's stuff that "doesn't let him live a normal life".
He got BFR into another CF because, first and foremost, his power was sealed at that moment, and secondly, he didn't consider this a problem. When he was a child, he was immediately sent into a "dream world" and lived there, but his power didn't activate because he was ultimately fine with it.

So, if Saiki managed to convince him with something like, “I'll send you to your series and I'll go to mine,” and Yogiri agreed to that, nothing would happen?

I mean, even if you attack him from another dimension, as long as it ends up traveling one way or another into his territory, it wouldn't work ig?

I mean, Yogiri has no way of finding Saiki if he decides to retreat to another distant universe, just as he has no resistance to passive Plot Manipulation that governs Concept type 3 and information type 2.

This wouldn't work, probably.

Ok

No, you misunderstand what I mean. Magical Power is another name for the "Power of Existence" or "The thing that makes things as they are", everyone/everything has that kind of power, otherwise, they wouldn't exist.

What he does is erasing the concept of something so that it can never exist again (and can't be brought back anyway). Momentum, Plants, Doors, Spells, People, Worlds, Space, Zombies, Spaceships, Ghost, Gods, Weapons, ... Everything has it.

Could you explain this a bit more?

 

[SweetDao]

So, if Saiki managed to convince him with something like, “I'll send you to your series and I'll go to mine,” and Yogiri agreed to that, nothing would happen?

Isn't it SBA? So isn't both of them trying to incapacitate or kill one another? If Yogiri deems him a treat, he would definitely try to erase him.

I mean, Yogiri has no way of finding Saiki if he decides to retreat to another distant universe, just as he has no resistance to passive Plot Manipulation that affects Concept type 3 and information type 2.

I guess? Depends on what the plot manip does, tho.

Could you explain this a bit more?

I'm not sure I can give a more thorough explanation than what I already explained above.

Basically, everything has "Magical power" inside oneself. "Everything" here is an umbrella term for, well, everything that exist. That we're talking about a desk, a human being, a dog, a spell, a tree, a Celestial Foundation, ... Everything has it. Another term for it is "existence energy" or "the essential force that defines something as what it is". It is typically linked to the person, so if the person dies, the Magical Power that made up the consciousness of the person disperses and merges with the world. It technically "still exist" and can be used for reincarnation or whatever, but the person wouldn't remember what happened in its past life.

If you have question, feel free to ask, because I don't know what to add tbf

 

[Pedonar]

I’m not knowledgeable on the verse, but based on what I’ve read from the profiles, I think Yogiri wins this basically because:

1. Under SBA rule, both characters will try to incapacitate or kill each other. That would automatically activates Instant Death, which passively kills any being that poses a threat to Yogiri. It has multiversal range and potentially capable of killing entities like the Hedgehog, who has immeasurable speed and can travel between dimensions

2. Even if Yogiri’s avatar is destroyed, it will simply be resurrected due to its connection to “the end.” Saiki has no feats of affecting abstract existence (Type 1)

 

[Gamecooob]

2. Even if Yogiri’s avatar is destroyed, it will simply be resurrected due to its connection to “the end.” Saiki has no feats of affecting abstract existence (Type 1)

is this not current Yogiri?

and does Yogiri's AE even resist IM2?

 

[Pedonar]

is this not current Yogiri?

Yes, but his immortality is related to the end

 

[SweetDao]

2. Even if Yogiri’s avatar is destroyed, it will simply be resurrected due to its connection to “the end.” Saiki has no feats of affecting abstract existence (Type 1)

The new vessel would be completely unrelated to who he was before. Imo, counting on his "resurrection/immortality" isn't viable. Similarly, I don't think he would've any memories of what happened either.

As for the AE, it shouldn't be type 1, but I can't do much right now, so ig it's how it is.

and does Yogiri's AE even resist IM2?

He was never directly impacted by it (assuming it even exists) so, I don't think so. No one in the verse ever "attacked" his true form.

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Yogiri range is "only" universal, likely multiversal. But Saiki has abilities that work in 2-A range.

Planetary with most of his abilities, Hundreds of Meters with Telepathy up to Planetary (He can use Clairvoyance to expand his telepathy), Planetary with Teleportation up to Interdimensional (Saiki can teleport people and objects to other worlds), Interstellar with Telekinesis | Same as base | Planetary with most of his abilities, Planetary with Telepathy (Without the limiter, Saiki's telepathy is capable of covering the planet) Planetary up to Interdimensional with Teleportation

2-A range where? I don't see anything 2-A on his profile

 

[Edutyn]

Isn't it SBA? So isn't both of them trying to incapacitate or kill one another? If Yogiri deems him a treat, he would definitely try to erase him.

Saiki has SI, so it is viable.

I guess? Depends on what the plot manip does, tho.

Basically what it says in the profile:

He can use his power to be published 7 times as One-Shots even when they are not serialized, stated that his first manga before serialization along with the novel were his own doing and that he was the one who wrote them. As the main protagonist he can passively alter the narrative. He is able to create chapters without even realising, like when he once said that even 80cm would be like 80m for him (He was shrunken), it turns out that he created two whole chapters where the plot is that Kusuo grows up to 80m. at the end of Chapter 177: PSIolving the Biggest Riddle! he confirms that the events happened because of what he said)

Besides, the story depends and revolves, figuratively and literally, on Saiki.

In chapter 73 Saiki wakes up in another universe, in that universe everything revolves around popularity and the more popular you are the more rights you have. Anyway, that world came about by the decision of an alternate Saiki. This Saiki couldn't save the dog from chapter one, so he decided to use his powers to help others. So, he ended up by deciding to help up everyone changing the story to be ruled by popularity. This popularity decides whether a person's from social status, influence and even eating rights.

Popularity is a readers' thing. Which now that I think about it could be CM1.
Something similar happens in the novel.

Saiki goes to another world, with a different story.
In this world, Alt Saiki decided not to interact with anyone from his world, but mainly decided to get rid of Nendo.
Al Saiki not interacting with anyone directly provoked.

Mera being rich.

Hairo being pessimistic.

Teruhashi having a cult/religion.

Kaido wanting to rule the world.

Kuboyasu being a delinquent.

Yumehara drawing a manga

Spoiler: More ""dubious""

In the novel, Haganeno more or less explains how Sight Energy works.

“You don’t know it, huh? Then allow me to explain! ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off.”

Saiki adds

Haganeno, you came here because you didn’t want to be forgotten, right? Aren’t you contradicting yourself?

“Huh? Contradicting…?”

You said you’re using ‘sight’ energy, right? And, although I don’t really understand it, it’s the readers’ ‘sight’ what gives you the energy to come here.

“Yeah, exactly. But what does that have to do with anything?”

Weren’t you able to come here in the first place precisely because people still remember you?

and

“You’re right.. If nobody remembered me, I wouldn’t have been able to appear like this. Huh? Wait… then that means that I don’t have to take over at all? In fact, why did I even do this in the first place?”

Since Psy Energy = Sight Eergy, due to being kinda similar.

So basically, as long as readers remember Saiki or feel that something is wrong, Saiki can continue to ‘exist’.

So basically, Saiki completely controls the plot and the moment he decides something, automatically the plot moves with him. And also give him some plot armor.

I'm not sure if I've made myself clear, if you have any questions, please ask me.

I'm not sure I can give a more thorough explanation than what I already explained above.

Basically, everything has "Magical power" inside oneself. "Everything" here is an umbrella term for, well, everything that exist. That we're talking about a desk, a human being, a dog, a spell, a tree, a Celestial Foundation, ... Everything has it. Another term for it is "existence energy" or "the essential force that defines something as what it is". It is typically linked to the person, so if the person dies, the Magical Power that made up the consciousness of the person disperses and merges with the world. It technically "still exist" and can be used for reincarnation or whatever, but the person wouldn't remember what happened in its past life.

If you have question, feel free to ask, because I don't know what to add tbf

So, if I understand, in Instant Death, everything is composed of magical power, which is actually power of existence that allows anything to exist, and without that they can't exist?

 

[Edutyn]

2-A range where? I don't see anything 2-A on his profile

Saiki Kusuo Explanations

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[SweetDao]

Saiki has SI, so it is viable.

Hmmm, well Yogiri would probably be fine with going his way, he isn't someone who's bloodlusted normally and just wish to live a normal life. Although, checking his SI feats, I don't know if Saiki could, realistically, act before Yogiri does something (be it passively or actively).

So basically, Saiki completely controls the plot and the moment he decides something, automatically the plot moves with him. And also give him some plot armor.

That seems definitely bothersome, yeah. Would cutting the link between himself and the world incapacitate him?

So, if I understand, in Instant Death, everything is composed of magical power, which is actually power of existence that allows anything to exist, and without that they can't exist?

Yep, that's the gist of it. There are some weird cases regarding this rule, but assume it just works like this, since those exceptions aren't relevant here.

But then, Saiki has resistance to conceptual manipulation type 3 so isn't it a stomp? I guess Yogiri could always nuke the planet or something and somewhat survive one way or another, but Saiki can probably do the same so... Yeah. At most, it ends up with Yogiri's true form being flabbergasted because it can't do shit and Saiki not being able to affect it.

 

[Edutyn]

Hmmm, well Yogiri would probably be fine with going his way, he isn't someone who's bloodlusted normally and just wish to live a normal life. Although, checking his SI feats, I don't know if Saiki could, realistically, act before Yogiri does something (be it passively or actively).

Nothing beats the power of friendship!

That seems definitely bothersome, yeah. Would cutting the link between himself and the world incapacitate him?

Like teleporting him to another world so he has no control over the plot? Or literally cut off his power?

Yep, that's the gist of it. There are some weird cases regarding this rule, but assume it just works like this, since those exceptions aren't relevant here.

But then, Saiki has resistance to conceptual manipulation type 3 so isn't it a stomp? I guess Yogiri could always nuke the planet or something and somewhat survive one way or another, but Saiki can probably do the same so... Yeah. At most, it ends up with Yogiri's true form being flabbergasted because it can't do shit and Saiki not being able to affect it.

May I ask how The End has AE type 1? Cuz, the profile don't have a scan.

 

[SweetDao]

Like teleporting him to another world so he has no control over the plot? Or literally cut off his power?

Nah. To put in simply, in the context, Yogiri was in another world that was not only linked to the life of someone but also "dreamed" by said person. The guy could change the "dream" as he sees fit, rewind time, etc etc and if he died, the world would also be destroyed as a result. So to counter this, Yogiri used his full power to "erase the link between Mitsuki and the world". Meaning that not only Mitsuki didn't die, but he also couldn't use any of his power anymore nor interact with "reality". He continued to live as a disembodied consciousness.

Could Saiki resist this, for example?

May I ask how The End has AE type 1? Cuz, the profile don't have a scan.

It's a law of the Ultimate Ensemble World (The cosmology) and act as the end/the limiter/the regulator for it.

 

[Edutyn]

Nah. To put in simply, in the context, Yogiri was in another world that was not only linked to the life of someone but also "dreamed" by said person. The guy could change the "dream" as he sees fit, rewind time, etc etc and if he died, the world would also be destroyed as a result. So to counter this, Yogiri used his full power to "erase the link between Mitsuki and the world". Meaning that not only Mitsuki didn't die, but he also couldn't use any of his power anymore nor interact with "reality". He continued to live as a disembodied consciousness.

Could Saiki resist this, for example?

IMO, looks like RW and/or Power Null, wich Saiki resist.

I could be wrong too

 

[SweetDao]

IMO, looks like RW and/or Power Null, wich Saiki resist.

It's indexed as Causality Manip on his profile, so there is that. I don't think he resists it?

 

[Edutyn]

It's indexed as Causality Manip on his profile, so there is that. I don't think he resists it?

Oh yeag, didn't read that tab. So yes, Saiki don't resist that.

Although the profile says that Yogiri needs to remove his seal to use this ability and needs time for a seal to open. While the seal is being opened, Saiki's Plot Hax will do its job.

 

[SweetDao]

Although the profile says that Yogiri needs to remove his seal to use this ability and needs time for a seal to open. While the seal is being opened, Saiki's Plot Hax will do its job.

Yeah, that why I said with Unequal Speed, Yogiri get stomped.

The only ambiguous thing is when the speed is equalized. We don't know how much time it takes for him to open a seal, it was compared to "lifting the safety of a gun" and the only time we saw him unseal himself (unless I misremember) was at the beginning of the story, and it took a thought, more or less. I'd say less than a second.

 

[Pedonar]

Isn’t Yogiri supposed to start unsealed under SBA? Since it puts characters in their strongest state

 

[SweetDao]

Isn’t Yogiri supposed to start unsealed under SBA? Since it puts characters in their strongest state

Good question, I don't think so? I mean, OP could always change and use child Yogiri if needed

 

[Pedonar]

Good question, I don't think so? I mean, OP could always change and use child Yogiri if needed

Note: When he was a child, Yogiri didn't put any seals on himself to limit or outright deactivate his power, as such, he can use the full extent of his power which include all specific applications described in each seal key

 

[SweetDao]

Note: When he was a child, Yogiri didn't put any seals on himself to limit or outright deactivate his power, as such, he can use the full extent of his power which include all specific applications described in each seal key

Yeah, but OP is using "Current Yogiri", the adult one which by default has his seals on

 

[Ebihara]

We generally don't rounds cause that can't be added to profiles easily

"It is not encouraged to create versus threads featuring more than one round, as they are too complicated for summarizing the results to the respective character profiles in a simple manner."
(not saying you CANT but)

 

[Ebihara]

Also seems like we need some things clarified by op?

 

[Edutyn]

Sorry, I've been a bit disconnected from the site, what needs to be clarified?