What will be the speed and ap for this?

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Here the context, couldn't upload imgs on imgur so Directly posting here , was busy, so i forgot to post this earlier.

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[TWILIGHT-OP]

I am also planning to create a profile for her in future.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I would say "at least MFTL+" and the AP "at least galaxy"

Reason for this is the "beyondhuman understanding part" seems like flowerly language, and not an actual structure, and more so too prove how utter ridicuiles her powers are for the verse.

 

[Da3ggman]

Charge yo phone bruh

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Charge yo phone bruh

Its 100% charge, i took the ss some days ago

 

[supertomioka]

Saitama reference? It also mentions "human understanding" which makes me lean towards it being a gag , but youd need pixel scaling for Energy or Ap and would need a time frame for speed

 

[LaserPrecision]

If her boyfriend is wall level or higher, it might also be worth calculating the Demon dude being several thousand times stronger as per his statement. That aside

The punch is MFTL+ for leaving the Galaxy. It would already be MFTL for going past the sun. For AP, I'm not sure. But you'd wanna calc it by getting the volume of the shockwave from her punch, and then getting its mass (I assume it's air). You can't use KE because it's MFTL+. However, you can derive AP from mass on the wiki, so I assume that it can serve as a substitute.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Can we take a specific time frame for the punch that happen like 2-5 sec?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Can we take a specific time frame for the punch that happen like 2-5 sec?

I mean it seems to happen relatively quickly given the context. I'd say 1 second, 5 second, and a 10 second end would be warranted. If the feat was treated as happening instantly (As in no one saw it happen), then 1 second is most likely.

 

[supertomioka]

You can't use KE because it's MFTL+. However, you can derive AP from mass on the wiki, so I assume that it can serve as a substitute.

its very similar to what cat Blanc does that one time I remember them using E = 4*U*(Er/Tr)^2 to get multi galaxy level in the calc

The punch is MFTL+ for leaving the Galaxy. It would already be MFTL for going past the sun

As I stated before I think time it took matter to get an exact figure, it think I have a way of getting it but idk if that would work

 

[LaserPrecision]

its very similar to what cat Blanc does that one time I remember them using E = 4*U*(Er/Tr)^2 to get multi galaxy level in the calc

A bit different. I think that's using inverse square law for destroying planets and stuff. But this attack doesn't destroy anything. You just wanna find how many times more than the sun it weighs, and multiply the sun's GBE by that factor to get the tier for it. The only reason I'm unsure it'll get results that large is because the width of the beam is small. Only like, tens of meters in thickness at its peak. The length on the other hand is of galactic proportions. But when it comes to a cylindrical or cone shape, width matters way more than length when it comes to calculating the volume (and thus mass). Should still be decent regardless. But I wouldn't be surprised if the result is only 4-B or smth.

As I stated before I think time it took matter to get an exact figure, it think I have a way of getting it but idk if that would work

Time should be easy to get. We can just assume a relatively short timeframe given context. The feat looks like it occurs within a few seconds, and I bet the following panels after the feat don't indicate it took a long time to travel that far.

 

[Arkenis]

the dumbest shi ive ever seen. pack it up

 

[Ezaru]

A bit different. I think that's using inverse square law for destroying planets and stuff. But this attack doesn't destroy anything. You just wanna find how many times more than the sun it weighs, and multiply the sun's GBE by that factor to get the tier for it. The only reason I'm unsure it'll get results that large is because the width of the beam is small. Only like, tens of meters in thickness at its peak. The length on the other hand is of galactic proportions. But when it comes to a cylindrical or cone shape, width matters way more than length when it comes to calculating the volume (and thus mass). Should still be decent regardless. But I wouldn't be surprised if the result is only 4-B or smth.

Time should be easy to get. We can just assume a relatively short timeframe given context. The feat looks like it occurs within a few seconds, and I bet the following panels after the feat don't indicate it took a long time to travel that far.

What? The beam is not small its wide as like 1/8 of a galaxy wide and assuming it is air seems like unfounded

 

[LaserPrecision]

What? The beam is not small its wide as like 1/8 of a galaxy wide and assuming it is air seems like unfounded

It looks that big only because of perspective. It gets closer to the screen and look that big. When it's coming from the Galaxy it's evidently much smaller. And what else could you assume it to be? It's either air and has mass, or it's smth we don't know and thus can't calculate its mass.

 

[Ezaru]

It looks that big only because of perspective. It gets closer to the screen and look that big. When it's coming from the Galaxy it's evidently much smaller. And what else could you assume it to be? It's either air and has mass, or it's smth we don't know and thus can't calculate its mass.

Maybe I am just blind is it not just a cone that starts fist sized and expands to pizza slice galaxy sized?

Edit: I see what you mean with the perspective I guess if its it supposed to be more "coming at us"

No idea but where would all that air come from? It seems to be "energy" like with Serious Punch^2

 

[LaserPrecision]

Maybe I am just blind is it not just a cone that starts fist sized and expands to pizza slice galaxy sized?

Edit: I see what you mean with the perspective I guess if its it supposed to be more "coming at us"

No idea but where would all that air come from? It seems to be "energy" like with Serious Punch^2

You seem to have caught on with what I meant in regards to the beam coming closer to us. The UFO that was close to it also didn't seem too small in comparison to it and I don't imagine that's > Milky Way in size in addition.

From the shock wave of their punch. That's quite common in fiction. Energy has to come from something. Shock waves possess energy, and I feel like that's what the method of energy transfer is here. Definitely doesn't seem to be thermal energy. So I feel like using the density of air for the volume is fine since shock waves propagate through atmosphere. It's fiction, so I think we can ignore the fact it's in space.

 

[supertomioka]

the dumbest shi ive ever seen. pack it up

You do not need to be rude

The only reason I'm unsure it'll get results that large is because the width of the beam is small. Only like, tens of meters in thickness at its peak. The length on the other hand is of galactic proportions. But when it comes to a cylindrical or cone shape, width matters way more than length when it comes to calculating the volume (and thus mass). Should still be decent regardless. But I wouldn't be surprised if the result is only 4-B or smth.

The width only ten meters ? How do you say that then conclude with 4B ¿ Obviously the beam expanded from its focal point to a size comparable to a small portion of the Galaxy
Although the beam seems to be kinda small as it's comparable to the space ship especially from the angle of the panel the feat wouldn't be close to 4B

 

[LaserPrecision]

The width only ten meters ? How do you say that then conclude with 4B ¿ Obviously the beam expanded from its focal point to a size comparable to a small portion of the Galaxy
Although the beam seems to be kinda small as it's comparable to the space ship especially from the angle of the panel the feat wouldn't be close to 4B

I conclude 4B because the length of the beam is of galactic proportions. The width isn't. You can argue the beam expanded, but as I said above; The beam only appears to be growing bigger because of the perspective (It is coming towards us), and the beam isn't much bigger than the UFO in the last panel. And unless we're going to argue that UFO is multiple galaxies large, then I think we can both safely conclude the width isn't that massive.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

The UFO appears to be closer to the camera, and given that the beam is continuously expanding from its point of origin, it's reasonable to assume that it could have been significantly larger than it appears by the time it exited the galaxy. Initially, I was thinking this might be around 3-C based on its appearance. But if there's no confirmed value, I'd consider it a possibly 3-C level feat.

 

[LaserPrecision]

The UFO appears to be closer to the camera, and given that the beam is continuously expanding from its point of origin, it's reasonable to assume that it could have been significantly larger than it appears by the time it exited the galaxy. Initially, I was thinking this might be around 3-C based on its appearance. But if there's no confirmed value, I'd consider it a possibly 3-C level feat.

It only appears to be expanding from its point of origin due to the perspective. It is constantly moving towards the screen (us), thus has the appearance of picking up width the entire time. The ship also doesn't appear to be any closer to the POV than the beam (In fact, the beam is closer because it actually goes off screen). Plus the top of the ship is illuminated by it.

Speaking of which, that would be another way to calculate the feat; It's illumination. Bet I'd try the calculation of its mass tbh.

 

[supertomioka]

I conclude 4B because the length of the beam is of galactic proportions. The width isn't. You can argue the beam expanded, but as I said above; The beam only appears to be growing bigger because of the perspective (It is coming towards us), and the beam isn't much bigger than the UFO in the last panel. And unless we're going to argue that UFO is multiple galaxies large, then I think we can both safely conclude the width isn't that massive.

I actually just agreed with this ... And I understand the point now on how to calc since we don't do Pixel scaling

I am assuming since the beam traveled so far out of the galaxy that from our perspective we could see the entire galaxy in frame implying the beam reached a distance far enough for the whole Milky Way which is about 100k ly in diameter to appear visible and reasonably small in the sky the beams traveled a bit far so it's length is pretty long with the 10m assumptions for its width it should be 4B or less you can also use this basis to calculate speed since the time frame suggested was 2-5 seconds

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I am pretty sure that beam is going sideways and not towards the front aka to our pov,

Bet I'd try the calculation of its mass tbh.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I am pretty sure that beam is going sideways and not towards the front aka to our pov,

You can tell it's coming towards the screen because the top of the UFO is illuminated rather than the side of it. Which would be the case if it's going sideways. Either that or the weird art style just makes it look that way. I think it's a weird angle tho. Mostly likely you'd want a calc with two ends for both assumptions.

 

[Vzearr]

Yeah but calcable to an extent. For speed it's quite easy.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Yeah but calcable to an extent. For speed it's quite easy.

Can you?

 

[Vzearr]

I'll try.