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Sonic.exe ( Soulless Sonic | Sonic Prototype 2017 | Sonic II Gaiden ) General Discussion Thread

OculoOmnibus

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The thread for power scaling, profiles, and discussions about JoeDoughBoi's Sonic.exe continuities and all related subseries. This thread is separate from the General Sonic.exe Discussion Thread, which is for about all characters in relation to that category.

Media in relation to these verses fall under this thread:
  1. Sonic.exe & Soulless Sonic
  2. Sonic Prototype 2017
  3. Sonic II Gaiden
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I can help with that since I'm usually like gathering X Information






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PIxutIRRTw&t=86s

JoeDoughBoi??? (@losermakesgames.bsky.social)

not necessarily, it is simple stone though I should note he doesn't move smoothly, slow, hard, and stiff I like to imagine a weeping angel scenario, although he could move with someone looking
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JoeDoughBoi??? (@losermakesgames.bsky.social)

You can't break life monitors normally; you can only use them when you lost a life This does however have a limit, and once you've used all available vessels you have to wait until the game replenishes them The purgatory version of the level is much smaller, which makes backtracking easier
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JoeDoughBoi??? (@losermakesgames.bsky.social)

X has no interest emotionally in Alice, especially no interest as a pet. Alice is a trophy that he holds over what he deems to be his "arch nemesis" He has no attachment, and is actively fueling the decay of her well-being
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(the QNA order is the current order of Weakest to Strongest)

JoeDoughBoi??? (@losermakesgames.bsky.social)

I will add, for the longest while I wasn't sure who should be stronger but I think it's funnier that Kofuku be the stronger one, and also the one in the middle
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These are sort of just nitpicks and minor critiques of mine but:
Add these to the 2011 Sprites Gallery and label em as Dark/Void Form.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...nimated.gif/revision/latest?cb=20240201201009
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20240201201009
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...nimated.gif/revision/latest?cb=20240201201009

As for 202X:
-This "younger" state of his vessel from the Guardians QnA should be included.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...nglordx.png/revision/latest?cb=20240930190521
-Furthermore, the picture classified as "Lord X's decayed vessel state" can instead be changed to "Lord X's Empty Vessel", while the other picture which is also his decayed vessel state should be renamed as the former (though still crediting JoeDoughBoi). Oh, and his "Are You Listening" artwork is renamed as such (but continues to credit Joe like the previous).
-Now, something I'd like to have put in for his Faker Form in the gallery is one of the few flaws of it, despite being near-perfect, which would be this piece of art. At the end of the day though, its only small details.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...oncept1.png/revision/latest?cb=20240527202301
 
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This is a genuine dumbass question I came to a conclusion with, but would it be rather "vague" to put this in as Type 1 Immortality?
(X claims that once your soul is his, both he and you will play <forever>)
 
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That's what I'm saying, but I'm just hoping we get a QnA sometime sooner than later that makes things clearer for us to understand where X's tier can be put at as of right now
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
I never understood why we have X at high 3-A instead of like low 2-C
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It really just falls down to him not having enough concrete proof that his pocket world meets the standards for universal criteria. Aside from being stated to have "limitless abilities" (which that itself is sort of muddy depending on the wiki's standards on this type of stuff), he can only get up to High 3-A if we take that statement as literal. It was a hotbed of debate in the main CRT that happened.

If Joe's Q&A has a question about X's reality and he outright says it's a universe, then we'd be able to get fidelity for 4D feats. We'd even get a bonus if the dimensional merge from Round 2 end up being canon again since that would automatically boost him to 2-C.
ClashIReckon said:
That's what I'm saying, but I'm just hoping we get a QnA sometime sooner than later that makes things clearer for us to understand where X's tier can be put at as of right now
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I hope we get any updates on the game at least
 
ClashIReckon said:
This is a genuine dumbass question I came to a conclusion with, but would it be rather "vague" to put this in as Type 1 Immortality?
(X claims that once your soul is his, both he and you will play <forever>)
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Not sure if these also count for more supporting evidence regarding Type 1 Immortality but:

 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
weren't fnf mods not canon?
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So I know that the FNF "What If's" are not canon, but I understand that Joe did work on the Vs Sonic.exe mod during the development of 2.0 (if memory serves right) and there is just a little bit of information alongside mostly minor trivia correlating to X.
 
OculoOmnibus said:
It really just falls down to him not having enough concrete proof that his pocket world meets the standards for universal criteria. Aside from being stated to have "limitless abilities" (which that itself is sort of muddy depending on the wiki's standards on this type of stuff), he can only get up to High 3-A if we take that statement as literal. It was a hotbed of debate in the main CRT that happened.

If Joe's Q&A has a question about X's reality and he outright says it's a universe, then we'd be able to get fidelity for 4D feats. We'd even get a bonus if the dimensional merge from Round 2 end up being canon again since that would automatically boost him to 2-C.

I hope we get any updates on the game at least
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Shouldn't it have a time dimension?
 
El_rapero_de_tf2 said:
weren't fnf mods not canon?
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ClashIReckon said:
So I know that the FNF "What If's" are not canon, but I understand that Joe did work on the Vs Sonic.exe mod during the development of 2.0 (if memory serves right) and there is just a little bit of information alongside mostly minor trivia correlating to X.
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No they aren't canon to X-Verse aside from Sonic Legacy, they probably might need their own thread or would likely fall under General Sonic.EXE.
 
ClashIReckon said:
Well there technically is a time component, but I'm not sure if it actually counts.
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Yes, it counts. But current wiki standards don't allow a dimension to qualify as Low 2-C unless it's of universal size. (This doesn't make sense because, regardless of physical size, a time dimension contains an uncountable number of "snapshots" of the entire structure, so it would still qualify for Low 2-C)
 
TheShape03 said:
Yes, it counts. But current wiki standards don't allow a dimension to qualify as Low 2-C unless it's of universal size. (This doesn't make sense because, regardless of physical size, a time dimension contains an uncountable number of "snapshots" of the entire structure, so it would still qualify for Low 2-C)
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Considering his domain is called a universe several times (sub universes but it should still qualify for universal sized regardless). I think it's fair to say it'd fall under the standards
 
TheShape03 said:
Yes, it counts. But current wiki standards don't allow a dimension to qualify as Low 2-C unless it's of universal size. (This doesn't make sense because, regardless of physical size, a time dimension contains an uncountable number of "snapshots" of the entire structure, so it would still qualify for Low 2-C)
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Transformation, Avatar Creation, Fusionism, and Power Bestowal seem to be more certain in VOID Physiology if we take into account that:
-Bandado can not only manipulate the vessel he inhabits, but also worked on the vessels of the Annexes. We're also given information that Immortuos/Immortous was directly built by Bandado via using his VOID Matter, like a bio-mechanical creature of sorts.



-All of the Annexes (except for Immortuos/Immortous) have Faker Forms of their own.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20241123024000
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20231205214228
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/c...st/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20231205212323
-Most of the Annexes were created from Bandado fusing former souls with VOID entities for elite soldiers to command.

https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1639665987560566784
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1914176311456649635
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1847173169464881641
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1914176313218265261
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1641553758541819905
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1952577184821911670
-It is likely that Bandado has a True Form like all VOID entities do, though he probably wouldn't reveal it.
https://x.com/GEAR0SHIFT/status/1928079046035828859

I didn't know if I should've used stuff from the Harbingers to include Empathic Manipulation since they're going to have some retcons.
 
ClashIReckon said:
Transformation, Avatar Creation, Fusionism, and Power Bestowal seem to be more certain in VOID Physiology if we take into account that:
-Bandado can not only manipulate the vessel he inhabits, but also worked on the vessels of the Annexes. We're also given information that Immortuos/Immortous was directly built by Bandado via using his VOID Matter, like a bio-mechanical creature of sorts.
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Seems fine, we do know Yokubo can manipulate someone's DNA, combining that with EXE's feats makes it a given for the page.
Edit: These are already under the "Advanced" tab, which Bandado would be a part of.
ClashIReckon said:
Another thing for Type 1 Immortality I dug up, dunno if it would apply or not
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Considering Lord X is stated to manually allow his vessel to age, I can see this working.

Also forgot to add this but Void form isn't canon anymore.
 
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ClashIReckon said:
Gonna dump some more things I've scouted out so far



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I do think these and the arm cannon comic basically confirm VOID Energy being a NPES since X's upper half was getting completely atomized by it (unless Alan's blaster is High 3-A but that wouldn't make any sense lol).

Pairing that with statements about tanks being able to harm X's vessel should solidify it all unless there's something that contradicts it.
 
So to clarify, in this particular statement, by "anywhere", is there an implication that EXE could possibly be omnipresent within his realm or am I overthinking it?
 
ClashIReckon said:
So to clarify, in this particular statement, by "anywhere", is there an implication that EXE could possibly be omnipresent within his realm or am I overthinking it?
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I think it's more metaphorical than literal, as in he could be anywhere waiting for a victim.
ClashIReckon said:
This piece of art. alongside another fun fact


as well as these two

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Yeah I think that's enough proof to at minimum change his durability, though it would probably be easier to use this as proof of classifying VOID Energy as a NPES since that way it already separates physical stats from powers.
 
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We don't know if this is either 2011x or Lord X though considering there are some things here n' there that tie to the former or the latter
 
ClashIReckon said:
We're continuing our grind with this one 🗣️🔥





https://x.com/losermakesgames/status/1962399434295414987
https://x.com/losermakesgames/status/1962398963941933415
https://x.com/losermakesgames/status/1962400939199148208
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EXE scalers are in shambles right now lol
ClashIReckon said:
We don't know if this is either 2011x or Lord X though considering there are some things here n' there that tie to the former or the latter
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Joe said that Sonic would purposely let it draw out and win in the end, so we can't really do any scaling on this part (plus it breaks site rules). It is cool that he did give some confirmation on what X's encounter with the actual Sonic would be.
 
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