Cell (Manga and Toei) Additions

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Okay so the whole idea here is that I want to add the super buff Super Saiyan Grade 3-esque power up to Perfect Cell's Key, on both his Manga and Anime versions since they both do it. Also Cell in all his Keys needs the Special Beam Cannon added to his AP ratings since that move arguably has a bigger boost when maxed out than the Kamehameha as shown by Piccolo way back in the Raditz fight since he was weaker than Goku yet his PL shot up way further than Goku's did from the maxed out Kamehameha, something Cell would know how to max out since he has data from that fight.

 

[RedReaper616]

Seems pretty self-explanatory.

 

[StarShooter80]

Sounds like an easy revision

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

Ok

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[ShiroChan56]

Nice and bump this.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Agree

 

[AceOfSpaces3709]

I agree

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[Nami_Kami]

I think SBC is relative to the KameHameHa but not necessarily stronger. The reason Piccolo's SBC ended up being stronger is because Goku was buying time for Piccolo to charge, while Goku was charging and firing KHH while fighting ( had way less charging time ). But overall I agree.

TBH tho can't we just say ''Solar System level with special techniques'' as opposed to having two identical keys for the KHH and SBC?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I think SBC is relative to the KameHameHa but not necessarily stronger. The reason Piccolo's SBC ended up being stronger is because Goku was buying time for Piccolo to charge, while Goku was charging and firing KHH while fighting ( had way less charging time ). But overall I agree.

TBH tho can't we just say ''Solar System level with special techniques'' as opposed to having two identical keys for the KHH and SBC?

I'll accept this, though I disagree with the SBC being a comparable technique since Piccolo was fully convinced that only this technique could kill Raditz despite him knowing how big of a boost a maxed out Kamehameha is from first hand experience, something Goku clearly agreed with since he didn't give Piccolo any push back on the idea.

 

[Nami_Kami]

I'll accept this, though I disagree with the SBC being a comparable technique since Piccolo was fully convinced that only this technique could kill Raditz despite him knowing how big of a boost a maxed out Kamehameha is from first hand experience, something Goku clearly agreed with since he didn't give Piccolo any push back on the idea.

I think that was just because Goku was the only one capable of buying time, as Piccolo was missing an arm, thus Goku charging up was not an option there.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Looks good

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

Huh? That's it? Sure

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[KingTempest]

You don't even need to argue bigger boosts or anything. It factually has the largest power levels in the arc, superior to the kamehameha, raditz, and even mini crashout Gohan. Just do that.

OP is fine. I'll send this to some servers

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

God damn, imagine if instead of Cell trying to be all poetic and stuff by killing Gohan with a Kamehameha he just used a Special Beam Cannon and drilled a hole through Gohan's Kamehameha.

 

[KingTempest]

God damn, imagine if instead of Cell trying to be all poetic and stuff by killing Gohan with a Kamehameha he just used a Special Beam Cannon and drilled a hole through Gohan's Kamehameha.

Gohan woulda learned ts on the spot

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Gohan woulda learned ts on the spot

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Gohan already had it but just never used it since he trained so much with Piccolo.

 

[KingTempest]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if Gohan already had it but just never used it since he trained so much with Piccolo.

He said in Super Hero that he was recently training it, but retcons exist in this world

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So Perfect Cell will get "Higher with Buff form (his power ups in Perfect Form are basically correlated directly to Super Saiyan Grades in guidebooks so it's essentially Grade 3), up to far higher with Kamehameha and Special Beam Cannon, even higher with Charged Ki Attacks in Buff form" and "Lower with Buff form" for speed. Super Perfect just gets the Ki attacks stuff.

 

[StarShooter80]

He said in Super Hero that he was recently training it, but retcons exist in this world

It’s not a retcon if that wasn’t implied before in the first place

 

[OrangeFR]

Looks good.

 

[KingTempest]

It’s not a retcon if that wasn’t implied before in the first place

I'm saying if they wanted to go that route they woulda just screamed retcon

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

A CRT without scans/videos... Juste trust me bro
This needs to be closed

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

A CRT without scans/videos... Juste trust me bro
This needs to be closed

Bro, I'm just getting Cell up to snuff with our new standards for these abilities like they are already on Goku, Piccolo and Trunks' profiles.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So Perfect Cell will get "Higher with Buff form (his power ups in Perfect Form are basically correlated directly to Super Saiyan Grades in guidebooks so it's essentially Grade 3), up to far higher with Kamehameha and Special Beam Cannon, even higher with Charged Ki Attacks in Buff form" and "Lower with Buff form" for speed. Super Perfect just gets the Ki attacks stuff.

This is essentially what I plan to edit his profile with once I get sufficient enough staff input though obviously with some tweaks to sound a bit more professional, also adding the other charged attacks to his Imperfect and Semi-Perfect forms since he has them there too. I'm honestly surprised more people don't talk about the fact that Semi-Perfect Cell has the Gallick Gun and max charged it in Super Vegeta's face, doing no damage to him whatsoever with it. That's a pretty huge gap in power since the Gallick Gun is just a better Kamehameha since it clashed with one coming from a dude who was already stronger than Vegeta and only got pushed back by a further Kaioken Amplification, though later material slightly contradicts this despite that for some reason.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks fine to me.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.

 

[Dalesean027]

This is fine

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Okay, I edited Manga Cell. How does it look? Probably bad since I did it on mobile. If any could help by editing the Anime Version of him with all the accepted stuff that would be great since that's a shit ton of links I would have to port over.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Okay, I edited Manga Cell. How does it look? Probably bad since I did it on mobile. If any could help by editing the Anime Version of him with all the accepted stuff that would be great since that's a shit ton of links I would have to port over.

Bump.

 

[MeiouHades]

Okay, I edited Manga Cell. How does it look? Probably bad since I did it on mobile. If any could help by editing the Anime Version of him with all the accepted stuff that would be great since that's a shit ton of links I would have to port over.

I could try, what exact changes need to be made to Toei Cell's profile? Also on Cell's profile, you wrote "Gallick gun" but I'm pretty sure it's just Galick gun.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I could try, what exact changes need to be made to Toei Cell's profile? Also on Cell's profile, you wrote "Gallick gun" but I'm pretty sure it's just Galick gun.

I couldn't remember how it's spelled. In any case, you see everything that involves the higher than normal stats like for the Varies ratings and stuff? All that needs to be ported over to the anime version, including the scans and references since his Base stats are already covered.

 

[Vietthai96]

This is oke, but tbf, i don't think the SBC is that high compare to Kamehameha in the later arcs where power level became meaningless, still higher i guess, but not enough to easily overcome other Ki beams like Kamehameha

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

This is oke, but tbf, i don't think the SBC is that high compare to Kamehameha in the later arcs where power level became meaningless, still higher i guess, but not enough to easily overcome other Ki beams like Kamehameha

A lot of that gap comes from Piccolo getting power crept by the other characters to be fair. Even in Super its portrayed as an immensely powerful technique to the point of cracking a barrier that withstood attacks from people that outscale Piccolo by magnitudes after charging it for a lengthy bit of time as shown in the U6 vs U7 Tournament.

 

[Vietthai96]

A lot of that gap comes from Piccolo getting power crept by the other characters to be fair. Even in Super its portrayed as an immensely powerful technique to the point of cracking a barrier that withstood attacks from people that outscale Piccolo by magnitudes after charging it for a lengthy bit of time as shown in the U6 vs U7 Tournament.

I mean, yeah, Ki beam always stronger than normal Ki attacks

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, yeah, Ki beam always stronger than normal Ki attacks

Yeah but like so is the Final Flash and it didn't crack the same barrier despite coming from Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta when his Base Form far outstripped Piccolo at that point. Not that it really matters much but all I'm trying to get across is that the Special Beam Cannon most certainly stands out even in Cell's massive arsenal of techniques.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Bump.