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Yeah definitely no 2Cs. GoH 2Cs would solo the verse in base with the ridiculous amount of bonkers shit they have
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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ROUND 1(0:0:0): Tournament of Power (8-0-0) Satan Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux
Satan VS Gremmy Stipulations: The fight takes place on an indestructible planet on neutral grounds with both opponents 10 meters from each other. Both at thier 4A keys. Gremmy starts with his 7 clones (16.88 exaFoe) while Satan is in his second phase 2 pre time skip key (71.43 exaFoe) but can...
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BUMPROUND 1(0:0:0): Tournament of Power (8-0-0) Satan Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux
Satan VS Gremmy Stipulations: The fight takes place on an indestructible planet on neutral grounds with both opponents 10 meters from each other. Both at thier 4A keys. Gremmy starts with his 7 clones (16.88 exaFoe) while Satan is in his second phase 2 pre time skip key (71.43 exaFoe) but can...vsbattles.com
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Huh, just noticed characters like Renji are at 4-A. Can someone link the upgrade thread? I assume it’s related to Shutara.
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It's from his fight with uryu. You can check ichigo rivals edition thread I think that's the name of the thread
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TYBW Anime Cour 3 [Ichigo's Rivals Edition]
Here's the sandbox, it's both Uryu's and Renji's current keys that are being updated. A few things of note: Renji's Zagai Zekkou after being charged for 20 seconds ~ Vollstandig Blut Uryu > casualBankai Shutara (4-A) >~ Blut Uryu > Uryu (10x downscale) ~ Renji Renji is not upscaling Squad 0 by...
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I would appreciate if more people give their opinions on this thread thanks.ROUND 1(0:0:0): Tournament of Power (8-0-0) Satan Vs Gremmy Thoumeaux
Satan VS Gremmy Stipulations: The fight takes place on an indestructible planet on neutral grounds with both opponents 10 meters from each other. Both at thier 4A keys. Gremmy starts with his 7 clones (16.88 exaFoe) while Satan is in his second phase 2 pre time skip key (71.43 exaFoe) but can...
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Time to defend the GOAT Bros
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[0-0-0] Goku VS The Big 3 (Dragon Ball Z Vs Naruto, Bleach, & One Piece)
Credit to Batmandrewart The matchup everyone was waiting for - GOKU VS THE BIG 3 About The Contestants: GOKU (Battle Of Gods Key) AP: 84.24 Foe LS: At least Class G Speed: >432,000 c All of this in base NARUTO (Six Paths Key) AP: 433 Exatons LS: At least Class G Speed: 10c All of this in...
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Q: Is the reason for why Gremmy never rebelled against his majesty that his Schrift’s ability was being suppressed by the seal? Or is it just that Gremmy himself would never rebel against him?
Kubo: Gremmy can’t imagine himself winning against Yhwach, so he can’t do a thing against him.
Kubo: Gremmy can’t imagine himself winning against Yhwach, so he can’t do a thing against him.
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Unless stated explicitly, the assumption will always be the minimum for that tier. For the profile, my guess would be that it's either Ichigo running around Karakura Town during his match with Uryu or just a bunch of downscaling.
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Q819.
閉じ込められていたグレミィが陛下に反抗せず大人しくしていたのは、封印が聖文字の力を抑える効果があったからでしょうか?
それともグレミィ自身、陛下に反抗しようとは考えていないのでしょうか?
A819.
グレミィはユーハバッハに勝てる自分を想像できないので
ユーハバッハに対しては無力です。
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Q819.
Was the reason why Gremmy, who had been confined, did not resist His Majesty and remained quiet because the seal suppressed the power of his Schrift?
Or was it because Gremmy himself never considered opposing His Majesty?
A819.
Since Gremmy cannot imagine a version of himself that could defeat Yhwach,
he is powerless against Yhwach.
What do we get out of this?
閉じ込められていたグレミィが陛下に反抗せず大人しくしていたのは、封印が聖文字の力を抑える効果があったからでしょうか?
それともグレミィ自身、陛下に反抗しようとは考えていないのでしょうか?
A819.
グレミィはユーハバッハに勝てる自分を想像できないので
ユーハバッハに対しては無力です。
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Q819.
Was the reason why Gremmy, who had been confined, did not resist His Majesty and remained quiet because the seal suppressed the power of his Schrift?
Or was it because Gremmy himself never considered opposing His Majesty?
A819.
Since Gremmy cannot imagine a version of himself that could defeat Yhwach,
he is powerless against Yhwach.
What do we get out of this?
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It only cements the scaling that is already is accepted in this wiki and I dont think it's anything special
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It's supportive evidence of the already accepted scale. It's nice to have, but not important currently.
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you're running two threads that would cause verse-wide changes. Close that one and focus on the Urahara one.
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So, after Gremmy got his upgrade, did it shake up the Sternritter rankings at all?
Also, I’m really curious—who would win in a fight, Lille or Gerard?
Also, I’m really curious—who would win in a fight, Lille or Gerard?
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Lille's greatest feat is overcoming Shikai Shunsui, a feat he achieves thanks to his ability to transform himself into something else. I rank Zaraki above Shikai Shunsui.
Even if you weren't going to do that from the first movie onward, Zaraki becomes Shikai Shunsui after his final battle with Unohana.
He also scales with Shikai Zaraki without an eyepatch in terms of reiatsu.
Gerard>>No Eye Patch Shikai Zaraki>>Shikai Zaraki>Gremmy>Askin>Pre-Aushwalen Jugram~~>Shikai Shunsui>Lille (stat)
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I think if they're both starting in their bases, Lille could hypothetically use the X axis to pierce through Gerard's core
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Gerard is millions of times stronger but lille's hax would make evade gerard attacks and instantly destroy his core with his durability negation shots. So Gerard is stronger but Lille barro would win in a fight based off hax and Gerard weaknesses.
Off-topic but I find that a lot of people especially bleach fans offsite can't distinguish the difference between who wins in a fight and who is stronger. If they could they would understand Power scaling much more easily.
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not base to base
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Lille isn't going to be get Gerard in his core at base too. Cause it's harder to hit his heart while he is moving and Gerard would most likely dominate him in CQC too or pop voltstanding (5C boost) and drag his ass.
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Zaraki solo the verse 
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What do you all think of this video by MrTommo2304? I enjoyed it, overall.
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MrTommo looks like a fatter version of Arc.
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Man, I’m not gonna be able to unsee that now
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I personally believe Gremmy’s upgrade just upscales the SS and Jugram. I think Gremmy’s not stronger than any of the SS members. Can he beat some of them with hax like throwing them in space? Sure, but I don’t think he has higher reiatsu. But that’s just me personally.
I have Gremmy as the 7th or 8th strongest Sternritter next to Royd, followed by Ayon Amped Quilge, Bazz B or Nianzol. Bazz B has the feats but Nianzol was chosen as worthy of coming to the SK’s Palace with the SS and Jugram while Bazz B wasn’t, which Jugram was surprised about Bazz B not being chosen implying he’s not far from that level.
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does Yhwach have total unconventional resistance/immunity to power-null since he can just give him self the power back?
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Yhwach
Yhwach (ユーハバッハ, Yūhabahha?) is the Father of the Quincy, the monarch of the Wandenreich, and the son of the Soul King, known by the designation "A" - The Almighty. As a baby, Yhwach was incapable of sight, speech, or even the slightest movement, but never feared or despaired, as he knew he would...
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Pernida raised himself to the level of Eye Patch Zaraki. Gremmy was stronger than Zaraki's form. Zaraki used Shikai to defeat Gremmy. Pernida was stronger than Lille and Askin.
The reason Nianzol was taken to SK's Palace wasn't because of his power. He was taken because of his space bending hax.
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Gremmy wasn’t stronger than Zaraki’s form!? What are you smoking? Kenpachi didn’t struggle against Gremmy. Zaraki used his Shikai to cut a meteor. Gremmy defeated himself by imagining having the same power as Shikai Kenpachi. Pernida defeated a nerf base Kenpachi in seconds. Pernida show to be stronger than Gremmy in seconds.
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You realize he severely damaged kenpachi in that fight right? Meaning he struggled and Shikai eye patch zaraki is clearly stronger than base eye patch zaraki.
*sigh.....
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Activating a shikai to cut a meteor means he can't cut it without a shikai/bankai/eyepatch. If there were an opponent he could defeat without a shikai, he wouldn't have activated a shikai. The phrase "I can't imagine a body that could withstand Gremmy's power" was directed at Eyepatch Shikai Zaraki. So, it doesn't mean he doesn't scale to his eyepatch form.
Pernida defeated Eyepatch Zaraki with dura neg. He then increased his own strength to his level. The same Zaraki form activates a shikai to cut Gremmy's meteor.
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The same reason Pernida defeated a nerf Kenpachi without a Shikai.
That proves Pernida > Gremmy
Gremmy couldn’t kill Kenpachi or harm him until he summoned his clones and that was outer space dura neg and bombs which requires to self sacrifice. Meanwhile, Pernida got rid of him in seconds. Gremmy was also fighting nerf eyepatch Kenpachi.
That proves Pernida > Gremmy
Gremmy couldn’t kill Kenpachi or harm him until he summoned his clones and that was outer space dura neg and bombs which requires to self sacrifice. Meanwhile, Pernida got rid of him in seconds. Gremmy was also fighting nerf eyepatch Kenpachi.
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Why is Zaraki nerfed?
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He means the eye patch itself is a nerf
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