Superman 2025 Revisions and DCU Verse Page creation

[Dalesean027]

Summary​

This CRT will cover the additions of a new DC Universe (DCU) verse page as well as the creation of several profiles for the verse starting with the Superman cast.
Okay this is everything we have so far below.

Spoiler: Profiles

• Kryptonians:
  • Superman (Courtesy of myself and @Tonygameman)
  • Krypto The Superdog (Courtesy of @That_moron2 )
• The Justice Gang:
  • Hawk Girl (Courtesy of @FentyBeauty)
  • Mr. Terrific (Courtesy of @Lacku)
  • Guy Gardner (Courtesy of @Lacku)
• LuthorCorp
  • The Engineer (Courtesy of @FentyBeauty)

Spoiler: Calculations

• AP and Dura:
  • Metamorpho Creates a Star - 4.26754683 Tons of TNT (Large Building level) to 236.09814 Teratons of TNT (Large Country level)
  • Superman Crashes in Antarctica - 59.165596 Tons of TNT (City Block level+)
  • Superman Lifts Skyscraper - 45.027814 Tons of TNT (City Block level)
  • Kaiju GPE - 0.953357 Tons of TNT (Building level)
  • Kaiju fire breath - 0.60578 Tons of TNT (Building level)
  • Superman Smashes a water tower - 0.2143 Tons of TNT (Small Building level+)
  • Metamorpho Slams a Giant Hammer - 0.1991934 Tons of TNT (Small Building level+)
  • Superman Divebombs from Orbit - 0.13315 Tons of TNT (Small Building level+)
  • Superman Destroys a Machine - 0.011484 Tons of TNT (Small Building level)
• Lifting Strength:
  • Superman Lifts Skyscraper - 1000849.31 Metric Tons (Class G)
  • Kaiju Weight - 8345.0001 Metric Tons (Class M)
  • Superman Smashes a water tower - 1604.1654388 Metric Tons (Class M)
  • Metamorpho Slams a Giant Hammer - 589.90281289 Metric Tons (Class K)
• Speed:
  • Superman Flies to the Moon - Mach 747.13314 (Massively Hypersonic)
  • The Engineer Flies from Antarctica to Metropolis - Mach 311.65175 (Massively Hypersonic)
  • Weakened Superman Flies from Metropolis to Antarctica - Mach 200.84224 (Massively Hypersonic)
  • The Justice Gang Flies to Jarhanpur - Mach 20.350216 (Hypersonic+)
  • Superman Divebombs from Orbit - Mach 9.52762 (Hypersonic+)
  • Superman Flies to Space - Mach 4.584 (Supersonic+)

Here is the DC Universe verse page:

LordTracer/DCU Verse Page

vsbattles.fandom.com

Edit: We do also need to determine which end for Metamorpho's sun creation is best here as well

 

[That_moron2]

Agree

 

[ByArrow]

Agree

 

[Ozcantabak]

Agree but is there a reason why JL gang doesn't scale to Supes ?

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Agree

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

All good except for this

Using galleries for character profiles is preferable if they have images. Do not insert pictures and/or links for not yet created profiles.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Da3ggman]

Looks great, good job!

 

[Arceus0x]

Hog Rider victim

 

[Dalesean027]

All good except for this

Forgot about the gallery ngl but it shall be fixed when im off work

 

[Dalesean027]

Agree but is there a reason why JL gang doesn't scale to Supes ?

The only who you could say maybe has something is Guy who could get a possibly rating but otherwise they have no reason to directly scale to Superman

 

[ShakeResounding]

Oh hell yeah.

I agree with this, and that Explanation section under Power of the Verse is extremely helpful for those who want to know the canon so far. Nice work!

 

[Dalesean027]

Oh hell yeah.

I agree with this, and that Explanation section under Power of the Verse is extremely helpful for those who want to know the canon so far. Nice work!

That's all @LordTracer they did great with the verse page

 

[57Dev]

Lordtracer, absolutely delightful work, brought tears to my eyes. Agree on everything.

As for the Metamorpho calc. I will stand with the Large Country level calc. Unless we want to argue for Metamorpho to have stellar level of gravity manipulation to create a pressure required for fusion, temperature is the only explanation.

 

[Kachon123]

Looks great

 

[StarShooter80]

I've been viewing these sandboxes for a bit before in the DCU thread and I didn't have an issue then or now, I agree fantastic work these pages are amazing

It doesn't seem like the images in superman's notable techniques section were fully implemented, either that or my laptop is bugging cause I really can't tell

 

[Tonygameman]

Having helped in some capacity, of course I'm going to join the agreeing train here. @GunshyFever should do something with technique images (and so do we with Ultraman & Lex, at least prep/technology ability tab-wise).

 

[LordTracer]

Agree but is there a reason why JL gang doesn't scale to Supes ?

There’s no reason for any of them to scale, except for Guy, whose rating should be ‘High 8-C, at most 8-B‘ since WoG has stated that he can fight Superman.

 

[Dalesean027]

Lordtracer, absolutely delightful work, brought tears to my eyes. Agree on everything.

As for the Metamorpho calc. I will stand with the Large Country level calc. Unless we want to argue for Metamorpho to have stellar level of gravity manipulation to create a pressure required for fusion, temperature is the only explanation.

Speaking of him we definitely need a metamorpho profile, I completely forgot about that

 

[Dalesean027]

Having helped in some capacity, of course I'm going to join the agreeing train here. @GunshyFever should do something with technique images (and so do we with Ultraman & Lex, at least prep/technology ability tab-wise).

This Lex profile could work with some solid direction and after being fleshed out

 

[LordTracer]

Oh hell yeah.

I agree with this, and that Explanation section under Power of the Verse is extremely helpful for those who want to know the canon so far. Nice work!

That reminds me that I never filled out the actual Power of the Verse section, but I wasn’t quite expecting this to be posted yet

 

[Dalesean027]

That reminds me that I never filled out the actual Power of the Verse section, but I wasn’t quite expecting this to be posted yet

Isn't the wiki shying away from power of the verse sections anyways

 

[Damage3245]

Should the Engineer also get Hacking added to her Technology & Data Manipulation section?

 

[LordTracer]

Isn't the wiki shying away from power of the verse sections anyways

I’m pretty sure we still use them, we just don’t put vague descriptors like ‘This verse is fairly strong’ anymore.

Should the Engineer also get Hacking added to her Technology & Data Manipulation section?

Yeah, she should.

 

[O0DSF0o]

I agree, Superman matchups are going to be so fun 8-B is such a good tier on all 4 of the wiki's

 

[Kaydee1648]

LFG !
I agree
Superman vs Homelander when?

 

[O0DSF0o]

Also what are going to happen to pages like Harley for example from the DCEU that also crosses over somewhat with the DCU? Like are they going to get separate keys?

 

[O0DSF0o]

Superman vs Homelander when?

 

[O0DSF0o]

WAIT LATE GAME TBOI IS 8-B TOO YAHOO!!!!!

 

[LordTracer]

Also what are going to happen to pages like Harley for example from the DCEU that also crosses over somewhat with the DCU? Like are they going to get separate keys?

In the event that Harley shows up in the DCU, she’d get a new page that includes stuff from The Suicide Squad. Same for Rick Flag, Jr.

 

[O0DSF0o]

In the event that Harley shows up in the DCU, she’d get a new page that includes stuff from The Suicide Squad. Same for Rick Flag, Jr.

Got it, then I fully agree to the CRT/Page Creations

 

[Adr10K]

I think we should link a link to where it was said that the novel of Superman is canon, that could help for clarifications.

 

[Dalesean027]

I think we should link a link to where it was said that the novel of Superman is canon, that could help for clarifications.

It is an officially licensed tie in prequel novel
13 Major Reveals We Learned From The DCU's Superman Prequel https://share.google/0PgStQpfijg1RlMuO
Superman Prequel Welcome to Metropolis Release Date Revealed Ahead of DCU Movie https://share.google/ZDKj5TYL9D3EEMsHP

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I assume using the 8-B+ KE of Superman flying doesn't violate the rules for KE?

I agree with everything if so.

 

[O0DSF0o]

You won’t believe what just got announced

 

[Tonygameman]

I assume using the 8-B+ KE of Superman flying doesn't violate the rules for KE?

I agree with everything if so.

Ultraman (or Hammer of Boravia before his reveal) did send him flying to Antarctica, and a skyscraper feat's also around the tier (only 14 tons lower), so it should be fine to use.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Quick question? Has the black hole feat been calced?

 

[Dalesean027]

Quick question? Has the black hole feat been calced?

Its not a real feat so no, there is nothing to calc

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Its not a real feat so no, there is nothing to calc

can you explain why it’s not considered a real feat? Is it a fake black hole? I am genuinely asking

 

[Dalesean027]

can you explain why it’s not considered a real feat? Is it a fake black hole? I am genuinely asking

The black hole is real but its not a feat at all

1. He's not even near the Black Hole even remotely and never even comes close to crossing its accretion disk or event horizon

2. He doesn't experience any significant gravitational effects associated with being close to Black Holes to actually even mean anything outside of just some moderate pull from it that's not even worth much.

3. The Black Hole isn't even exerting any kind of relevant force to any degree at the range they are at from it, its not like crushing the stone or warping the area where Superman is far away from it nor does it even threaten the other people there like Metamorpho or a literal baby. Its actually a legit nothingburger scenario where it looks more impressive than it actually is until you look objectively and see they ain't even close enough for it to actual be threatening outside of its more moderate pull at range.

All and all its not anything valid or worth calculation and is heavily misconstrued off site.