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HELLSING - General Discussion

Ms.Luzifer said:
wdym lol
Alucard immediately tore thru Alhambra the moment they made contact
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I never read the manga, I watched the anime where they clashed for a little bit on this. So let me amend my statement. ANIME Dandy Man is stronger than Base Alucard.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I never read the manga, I watched the anime where they clashed for a little bit on this. So let me amend my statement. ANIME Dandy Man is stronger than Base Alucard.
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lmao watch the scene in slow mo, you can see that The Card and Alucard's hand weren't in contact
 
Ms.Luzifer said:
lmao watch the scene in slow mo, you can see that The Card and Alucard's hand weren't in contact
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I'm surprised I never noticed that before. Then what caused that big clash of shockwaves and sparks and shit? If they didn't even connect then what the hell was that all about?
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I'll give the Dandy Man this much, his card strike against Straightjacket Alucard didn't immediately get obliterated in contact, they clashed for like a solid five seconds before Alucard tore through it and his arm. Bro definitely upscales Base Alucard just off of that alone since there's a stomp gap between the two forms.
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Tubalcain was shown to be a bit stronger than Red Coat Alucard. Remember Alucard retreated and admitted he couldn't stop bleeding.
 
For scaling the lower levels, we do see that Red Coat can help Seras push back Anderson. As said above, Seras was doing most of the work already, meaning Alucard only had a bit left to add, but I'd figure he wouldn't be able to help at all if he was more than ten times weaker.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
For scaling the lower levels, we do see that Red Coat can help Seras push back Anderson. As said above, Seras was doing most of the work already, meaning Alucard only had a bit left to add, but I'd figure he wouldn't be able to help at all if he was more than ten times weaker.
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so downscaling?
 
Random-Helper323 said:
I think we have to treat him as at least two times weaker since we've seen Monster Anderson stomping him. To be safe, better to assume a larger gap like times five or ten.
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We don't assume any gap number. It's just unquantifiable in number terms, simply upscale or downscale with the degree being functional like "gap big enough to one shot this mf" as opposed to "gap that is 2.5x this value" or whatever, unless there's context or statements that would give an exact value.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
I think we have to treat him as at least two times weaker since we've seen Monster Anderson stomping him. To be safe, better to assume a larger gap like times five or ten.
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The Ap difference from Baseline Large Building (2 Tons) and The SR-71 Feat (3.44 Tons) is like 1.72x, considering Monster of God Anderson was basically stomping red coat Alucard, I feel like it's safe to downscale Red coat Alucard to Baseline Large Building
 
Robo432343 said:
i dont think we do that 1.72x gap thingy unless theres some statement that says something like that
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Denji from CSM in his first key downscales to baseline 8-C (0.2756 Tons) from his 8-C feat (0.80762 Tons) due to him being injured from the feat without any statements
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Denji (Chainsaw Man)

Denji (デンジ?) is the main protagonist of the first part of the manga and anime series Chainsaw Man. He is a teenage devil hunter with the exceptional ability to transform into a devil himself. After the death of his parents, Denji found himself the sole inheritor of the debts they owed to the...
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Robo432343 said:
ok then
you dont have to ask if you dont want to
even im not sure lol
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I mean if you want another example

Post Retcon Juggernaut upscales from High 8-C+ to 8-B
from easily overpowering colossus without any statements
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Juggernaut (FOX)

Juggernaut, born Cain Marko, is a mutant who has superhuman strength and durability. He was a member of the Brotherhood of Mutants. Tier: At least 8-A | 8-B Key: Pre-Retcon | Post-Retcon Name: Cain Marko, Juggernaut Origin: FOX's X-Men Gender: Male Age: 51 | 63 Classification: Mutant, Member of...
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Robo432343 said:
remember when you said alucard can't summon his familiars in base or in level 1
what about all the times he summoned baskerville
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I was focused on Rip and Tubalcain
which he only summoned in level 0

kinda forgot Baskerville was a famillar
 
Robo432343 said:
remember when you said alucard can't summon his familiars in base or in level 1
what about all the times he summoned baskerville
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In fairness, Level 1 seems to specifically unlock his familiars and shapeshifting.
 
Robo432343 said:
i think you worded Alucards regen wrong

you proved why Alucard shouldn't have high-mid regen, you didn't provide an actual scan for Low-Mid regen
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All the scans I added is vampires being able to be killed from decapitation,

Regening your head is Mid, but since they die from decapitation, then it's clear to think that they have Low-Mid Regen at best
 
Btw i went to actually go calc funny feat and it WASNT ch4 vol 10...
Give real sauce...
 
Robo432343 said:
okay but the entire point of regeneration is to show a scan of the character...regenerating
you removed Alucard's regeneration feats from his profile
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Also yeah
Like if I listed Dio as mid-high and the only scan was "vaporizing his brain can kill him", that doesnt show his regen. Vaporizing a normal dude's brain would kill them too, it doesnt actually mean much, you'd list the cap alongside what they can actually do like reforming from bisection or blown apart.
 
If it's about his soul stock regeneration, his regeneration feat is becoming a mess of goop and regenerating (Low-High). If it's his regeneration without souls, he regrows limbs while fighting Walter (Low-Mid).
 
sometimes my imgur links won't send you to the scan so may I ask

is this link working?
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Ms.Luzifer said:
sometimes my imgur links won't send you to the scan so may I ask

is this link working?
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Alucard's Regeneration scan

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it works for me
 
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Robo432343 said:
any updates?
please don't tell me the feat is invalid
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No it's legit from what I can see you dudes just like 3rd on the list of "I need to do shit for other people".
Like I did rough numbering to get an idea but I'm not gonna publish a dogass calc I did in 5 seconds, I'm gonna actually try for the final value.
 
I may ask, how old are like the hellsing profiles here (besides alucard he seems pretty up to date... kinda, Mind Resis from resisting Illusions kinda ass imo)

or ig how long since they been properly updated (excluding things like changing the imgs, or fixing wording mistakes)
 
Ms.Luzifer said:
I may ask, how old are like the hellsing profiles here (besides alucard he seems pretty up to date... kinda, Mind Resis from resisting Illusions kinda ass imo)

or ig how long since they been properly updated (excluding things like changing the imgs, or fixing wording mistakes)
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Probably copy pasted from the OBD and then tweaked over time like most of the profiles.
 
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