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Maki Zenin VS Ruby Rose (10-6-2) FINISHED

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Considering her aura doesn't get hit when she phases through attacks and her aura is literally her soul, then yes.
 
Honestly I just check the profile myself, surprised by how badly it showcases her main ability. Let me see if I can find the scene she dodges missiles
 
What exactly makes that a blitz btw?
 
Again that was to show she can turn control her direction in her semblance as earlier you said it was only a straight line.

For sheer speed difference Ruby can travel several hundred meters before comparable teammates could do anything about it and they have no hope catching up to her
 
Keeweed said:
For sheer speed difference Ruby can travel several hundred meters before comparable teammates could do anything about it and they have no hope catching up to her (like to the point this gets her killed temporarily)
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This looks like travel speed. Do these teammates have travel speed comparable to their combat speed (FTL)? Otherwise I don't think they could do anything anyway
 
Tbh it looks more like a travel speed amp than a combat speed amp so far. Any scans of her using it in combat? Also her teammates didn't even try to catch her there lol.
 
Phoenks said:
Tbh it looks more like a travel speed amp than a combat speed amp so far. Any scans of her using it in combat? Also her teammates didn't even try to catch her there lol.
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They very much want to be with her and the rest of the season is the going after her. She was just immensely faster.

Though for travel versus combat, I know they are shown to be comparable by Weiss but my favorite gif is so hard to find. However Weiss’ profile currently has a good example. She travels across an area in a sword trust in comparison to the other opponents’ attack with both being equal to each other.
 
I am asking for scans of her using this amp in combat to blitz someone who was previously comparable to her.

If she doesn't has such scans then... quite frankly I don't think it matters. Both because it wouldn't be in-character and because it has no support for it being a combat speed blitz thing.
 
Keeweed said:
Rwby is really bad at having speed feel fast in the later seasons, but she clearly is immensely faster.
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If you can’t find feats just quote her respect thread it has all of her speed feats and even lists the ones using recoil versus the ones not using it.
 
Phoenks said:
At least tell us why we have barely discussed anything yet
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I've already read enough. The example of a blitz doesn't show anything Maki can't deal with and no one's posted anything more impressive so Maki's fully capable of reacting and swinging her sword to hit. With that, Ruby's basically just on a timer until she messes up with her semblance and gets cut. If there's something I'm missing where Maki simply can never get one good swing on Ruby then I can change my vote but I don't see that happening.
 
Phoenks said:
I am asking for scans of her using this amp in combat to blitz someone who was previously comparable to her.

If she doesn't has such scans then... quite frankly I don't think it matters. Both because it wouldn't be in-character and because it has no support for it being a combat speed blitz thing.
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It is, just hard find clips when the show got nuked from YouTube. Found a simple one.


https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/s/SK85nuxICv
 
The fact she went from barely a dot in his vision to stabbing a weapon into the ground right next to him without him being able to process she did that till she was done.
 
So Ruby's Semblance can probably be used for dodging attacks but until I've been given proof of it actually being used to blitz opponents in combat I am going to ignore it.

How does Ruby deal with Maki's analytical prediction which allows her to "feel everything" and predict the movements of those around her by feeling changes in the air and temperature? She pretty much just needs to get one good hit on Ruby to win the fight.
 
Is it worth to note that Maki is used to fight opponents that can blitz her even without her "broken" analytical prediction


Naoya does not have the same mechanics as Ruby, but it's just "press buttom and dash", so Maki can probably come with something anyway
 
Keeweed said:
That had to be written backwards. Ruby is Class M to G (I think she should just be M but oh well, Ruby profiles are stuck at being messes)

Though with the match change. Think I’ll vote maki. The speed boost is really bad, but if Ruby hits anywhere other than the head, she can instant kill counter
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Been trying to fix them for a while but keep getting stonewalling at every attempt.

Ruby goes for the head 99% of the time, decapitation and headshotting is her go to move, second to bisection.
 
Keeweed said:
I don’t agree with Ruby having the skill advantage, but I think both are in the generic anime skill ball park of being above average by a lot but not translating into real world skill at all (maki at least has good perception and precision, that is understandable)
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Ruby in the Beacon arc was able to, while having a panic attack glance at an opponent's weapon, instantly analyze it and determine its functions, figure out her opponent's fighting style from their weapon, determine any flaws the weapon and their fighting style had, and then beat him in two moves.

She is aalso acknowledged aas more skilled than Yang, who is skilled enough to read the attack patterns of two world class assassins to the point that she could detwrmine the exact attacks they were going to make on her even when attacking her from blind spots.
 
Keeweed said:
I mean that they aren’t really qualifiable because they don’t do things that would be realistically skillful or in an out of verse sense don’t actually mean much of anything. Like weekly likes to point out that aura requires alot of skill to use, but skill in what exactly from an out of verse perspective. It’s a meaningless statement.
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I can repost the scans but basically maintaining an Aura barrier requires an immense amount of concentration and effort to do, so much so that when they were training Oscar he nearly passed out from trying to maintain it for more than a minute while fighting at the same time. It's a feat of skill because they have to train themselves to maintain said Aura barrier 24/7 on a subconscious level even while fighting.

Though There's also stuff like velvet just straight up copying entire fighting styles after seeing them for a few seconds too.
 
Phoenks said:
Tbh I don't see how it is that irrelevant. Maki is primarily a physical (melee) fighter. So is Ruby from what I can tell.

If Maki is skilled enough to land a good hit on Ruby even despite a speed disadvantage, she wins. If she isn't, then she loses. That's how I'd view it, anyway.
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Ruby is roughly 60/40 melee and range fighter. Her weapon is a sniper rifle after all, even though she does use it in cqc she is also a skilled sniper
 
Keeweed said:
The big thing for me is that Ruby doesn’t usually try to super murder human opponents so she’ll try to go for less dangerous hits, which maki can eat due to regeneration giving her many chances to land a hit and nuke Ruby’s soul. If Ruby just went buck wild I’ll vote for her, but I am super torn right now on.
Also for her semblance:
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Not necessarily. She wouldn't really have a reason to pull her punches because she doesn't know that Maki doesn't have Aura. Aura is the whole reason she has no real qualms about fighting other people at full force, because she knows she's not going to be able to hurt them until their Aura goes down. Maki does not have that.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
So like, it's strainght line dash? She press the thing and boom? Cuz if so I really think that Maki's analytical prediction can deal with it, specially when she could react to numerous Sukuna slashes
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No, it allows her to fly freely in any trajectory she wants
 
Keeweed said:
Honestly I just check the profile myself, surprised by how badly it showcases her main ability. Let me see if I can find the scene she dodges missiles
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Rwby revisions get stonewalled very hard here, people do not like seeing the characters properly represented in their capabilities. Speaking from experience, been trying to fix the profiles for literal years.
 
Phoenks said:
I am asking for scans of her using this amp in combat to blitz someone who was previously comparable to her.

If she doesn't has such scans then... quite frankly I don't think it matters. Both because it wouldn't be in-character and because it has no support for it being a combat speed blitz thing.
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The food fight from volume 2 or the bringer fight from the volume 4 trailer immediately come to mind
 
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