Legend of Zelda General Discussion Thread

[Omegabronic]

It never was and because he explains in excessive detail he's going to use the tri force to straight up destroy reality including all of time and space.
Even checked the jap yap just to be safe, it's even more concrete and he uses words like ******* erase space and time.

That includes at minimum light and dark world so 2-C, tbh it def includes a few others tho, not all are uni in scope tho so it's iffy but it's 100% light world+sacred realm.

Din

Din is a recurring figure in The Legend of Zelda series. When nothing yet existed, Din and her sisters descended upon chaos and created the universe, with Din herself being responsible for shaping the earth. Once the three goddesses had created everything they departed back to the heavens, but...

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Isn't there millions of other realities tho?

 

[Chariot190]

Din

Din is a recurring figure in The Legend of Zelda series. When nothing yet existed, Din and her sisters descended upon chaos and created the universe, with Din herself being responsible for shaping the earth. Once the three goddesses had created everything they departed back to the heavens, but...

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Isn't there millions of other realities tho?

Yeah but we dont know if Null knows about them, and if he doesnt, wouldnt be part of his claim, he def knows light world+sacred realm tho.
Technically speaking there's also Lorule and the twilight realm, as extra dimensions in JUST the base "1 uni" like dbz slop, among others, but Im being minimalistic here, can def prove two unis, any more is vibes or guessing.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I was wondering why the traveler from majora Manga was downgraded from low 2-C to Large star? Also sucks how most best Zelda feats are from non Canon sources.
I need some feats, someone make some revaluation thread and upscale goddesses, triforce, Demise, Ganondorf.. please.  

Dawg I've been trying to get Hyrule Warriors updated for like a year

 

[OrangeFR]

So it's less the ToP enabling scaling and more light arrows, and it just happens to scale to ToP lv characters.

Thought you were talking about the Tournament of Power from Dragon Ball Super for a bit

 

[Lgamer099_99]

@Chariot190 sorry to bother, no pressure. But I checked the previous messages, u were working on WW feats right? Would be nice if you could list which feats would be worth to calc, I might give an hand as well if I can.

 

[Chariot190]

@Chariot190 sorry to bother, no pressure. But I checked the previous messages, u were working on WW feats right? Would be nice if you could list which feats would be worth to calc, I might give an hand as well if I can.

the only WW feats I did were the fire and ice island, freezing the volcano, thawing and warming up the island.
Did it because the elemental arrows backscale to the OOT equivalents due to throughlines like Ganon, and I'm working on OOT/MM, so like, WW elemental arrows backscale to OOT ones. Didn't even do it for AP (they're like 7-C), but I wanted the temperature for the arrows to list on the profile, doubly so for characters that can tank them for heat/cold res values.

That's basically it though, I only did it because it's relevant to what I was doing. I looked a bit at the island bust, but that feat is only like 8-A at most using in game sizes, and """""""""""canon""""""""""""" size could be pretty damn high, but I kind of want to refrain from calcing stuff that relies on guessing or using non-abstractions, like not to say it isn't right or accurate, but there's always that lil bit of doubt that maybe that specific thing is exempt or maybe the idea to get it isn't correct so would rather just not deal with those types of feats.

Edit: I half lied, I have blowing up a rock half done too because the boulders in WW are ******* massive for some reason and moreover not even basic frag but like v.frag.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

the only WW feats I did were the fire and ice island, freezing the volcano, thawing and warming up the island.
Did it because the elemental arrows backscale to the OOT equivalents due to throughlines like Ganon, and I'm working on OOT/MM, so like, WW elemental arrows backscale to OOT ones. Didn't even do it for AP (they're like 7-C), but I wanted the temperature for the arrows to list on the profile, doubly so for characters that can tank them for heat/cold res values.

That's basically it though, I only did it because it's relevant to what I was doing. I looked a bit at the island bust, but that feat is only like 8-A at most using in game sizes, and """""""""""canon""""""""""""" size could be pretty damn high, but I kind of want to refrain from calcing stuff that relies on guessing or using non-abstractions, like not to say it isn't right or accurate, but there's always that lil bit of doubt that maybe that specific thing is exempt or maybe the idea to get it isn't correct so would rather just not deal with those types of feats.

Edit: I half lied, I have blowing up a rock half done too because the boulders in WW are ******* massive for some reason and moreover not even basic frag but like v.frag.

Amy interesting tier 6 feats?
Even high tier 7 lmao.

Even though i genuinely wished for more tier 5 feats.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Even though i genuinely wished for more tier 5 feats.

I mean we'll be getting more in Age of Imprisonment, it'd be a repeat of the same feat in TOTK but uh it'll technically count. Honestly barring a few exceptions I think most of the ratings fit rather perfectly with the series.

Speaking of Age of Imprisonment, spoilers are starting to roll in. Nothing major seems to be out in the open but reviews show off things that I'll spoiler tag just in case people are avoiding those too. The temple bosses can actually speak, and their appearance isn't the only difference either these incarnations have slightly different names, Colgera is Grimgera as an example, and they're collectively known as the archfiends/archdemons (I think it depends on the translation?). There's also on rail shooting segments with the korok fella and construct, and the full roster for the game is bigger than AOC's was even with the DLC

 

[Lgamer099_99]

I mean we'll be getting more in Age of Imprisonment, it'd be a repeat of the same feat in TOTK but uh it'll technically count. Honestly barring a few exceptions I think most of the ratings fit rather perfectly with the series.

Speaking of Age of Imprisonment, spoilers are starting to roll in. Nothing major seems to be out in the open but reviews show off things that I'll spoiler tag just in case people are avoiding those too. The temple bosses can actually speak, and their appearance isn't the only difference either these incarnations have slightly different names, Colgera is Grimgera as an example, and they're collectively known as the archfiends/archdemons (I think it depends on the translation?). There's also on rail shooting segments with the korok fella and construct, and the full roster for the game is bigger than AOC's was even with the DLC

A question. What's your "tier list" based purely on lore and add some vibe, like classifying Vaati, Demise, the various Link.
No need to have strict confirmed chain like we must have, for example I am sure that the intention is Hylia above Malladus even if we can't prove it.
+ I am trying to recollect all the Link incarnations, aside from the main games, there is also the Hero of the men (before Minish cap), and one before Four Sword (who is descendant of Minish cap one), are there any other supoosed Link?
I am also trying to figure out how many years passed between the games, like

Surface war - > thousands of years - > SS - > thousands of years / Hero of the men - > Minish cap etc.

I want my Vaati agenda to be stronger, would be very cool to see Vaati in the next games.

 

[Chariot190]

I want my Vaati agenda to be stronger, would be very cool to see Vaati in the next games.

I thought you were serious for a second lmao.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I want my Vaati agenda to be stronger, would be very cool to see Vaati in the next games.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

The Rayleigh / dark king of Zelda LMAO

the guy got a cool design tho, maybe a different incarnation can redeem him or maybe I am just coping

 

[Nierre]

smh vaati is overhated

 

[Chariot190]

smh vaati is overhated

"The canonical sex offender who's canonical claim of fame is targeting young girls between the ages of 10 and 14 as per nintendo's own website is overhated"
"also shops at hot topic and gets slandered by literal scrubs"
Bro you gotta delete this comment right now...

 

[Da3ggman]

"The canonical sex offender who's canonical claim of fame is targeting young girls between the ages of 10 and 14 as per nintendo's own website is overhated"

Bro what

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Bro hates Vaati more than he hates OG Hyrule Warriors

 

[Dust_Collector]

Bro what

The main plot of Four Swords (His debut game) is about him kidnapping an underaged Zelda to make her his bride, and the backstory to said game is how in the past he kept kidnapping underage girls for the same reason.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Bro hates Vaati more than he hates OG Hyrule Warriors

 

[Chariot190]

Bro hates Vaati more than he hates OG Hyrule Warriors

I'm going to actually report you if you don't piss off with your incitant flaming. In fact you've been warned multiple times by staff. Stop your shit, it's obnoxious, no this isn't an invitation to argue, it's me saying if I hear one more thing from you that exists just to start shit that's going to be the final line.

 

[OrangeFR]

There is potential in making an edit of a Jidion thumbnail with Vaati in it, but I don’t wanna do that so I’ll just leave that recommendation here.

 

[Chariot190]

Bro what

There is no joke here.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Now I get why Vaati 4-B feat isn't used here, they don't want him to be the top 1 excluding full Triforce users, goddesses etc.

Can't deny you all that he looks majestic tho.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

ouch

 

[Chariot190]

Now I get why Vaati 4-B feat isn't used here, they don't want him to be the top 1 excluding full Triforce users, goddesses etc

Bro, you realize that Vaati CAN'T be number 1 ever.
His ass could be 1-A and everyone would just upscales drastically, quite literally everyone, from Hylia due to light force scaling, to uh, well shit basically everyone actually, pretty sure he's not even OOT Temple Boss Lv given those can at least box a medium lv MS and ToC Link.

It's like so bad dude, literal deku scrubs started making fun of his fraud ass the instant a ToP-less Ganon showed up. He's canonically fraudulent bro there's like nothing here.

Can't deny you all that he looks majestic tho.

Yes I can. I'm denying it and strongly.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I'm going to actually report you if you don't piss off with your incitant flaming. In fact you've been warned multiple times by staff. Stop your shit, it's obnoxious, no this isn't an invitation to argue, it's me saying if I hear one more thing from you that exists just to start shit that's going to be the final line.

Jeez sorry, I thought you'd think that was funny instead of get pissed again. Nothing I ever say is to start shit other than a few laughs, shit just starts between us either way.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Bro, you realize that Vaati CAN'T be number 1 ever.
His ass could be 1-A and everyone would just upscales drastically, quite literally everyone, from Hylia due to light force scaling, to uh, well shit basically everyone actually, pretty sure he's not even OOT Temple Boss Lv given those can at least box a medium lv MS and ToC Link.

Wanna add onto this that even when the Master Swords location is unknown the ******* sword that you get from a random old man in a graveyard is considered the next best thing instead of the Four Sword that routinely beats Vaati's ass. Genuine Bongo Bongo victim.

 

[OrangeFR]

Bro, you realize that Vaati CAN'T be number 1 ever.
His ass could be 1-A and everyone would just upscales drastically, quite literally everyone, from Hylia due to light force scaling, to uh, well shit basically everyone actually, pretty sure he's not even OOT Temple Boss Lv given those can at least box a medium lv MS and ToC Link.

It's like so bad dude, literal deku scrubs started making fun of his fraud ass the instant a ToP-less Ganon showed up. He's canonically fraudulent bro there's like nothing here.

Ain’t no way bro gets swept by Volvagia , ts bum is never appearing in another mainline game again

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Wanna add onto this that even when the Master Swords location is unknown the ******* sword that you get from a random old man in a graveyard is considered the next best thing instead of the Four Sword that routinely beats Vaati's ass. Genuine Bongo Bongo victim.

I mean, it really is a powerful sword.

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Bro, you realize that Vaati CAN'T be number 1 ever.
His ass could be 1-A and everyone would just upscales drastically, quite literally everyone, from Hylia due to light force scaling, to uh, well shit basically everyone actually, pretty sure he's not even OOT Temple Boss Lv given those can at least box a medium lv MS and ToC Link.

It's like so bad dude, literal deku scrubs started making fun of his fraud ass the instant a ToP-less Ganon showed up. He's canonically fraudulent bro there's like nothing here.


Yes I can. I'm denying it and strongly.

Bro I was joking about the 4-B part.
Calm down, I don't seriously believe that and I know that FSA final boss is Trident Ganon.
I am actually neutral with his character, I like the design and the concept of him as a wizard. His actions are bad, just like any other villain? It's not like Ganondorf, Demise or Majora are better tho, If you think so you all give very little importance to life, which is actually a super important human right. But hey I won't judge or be mad if someone like a fictional villain with questionable morality, can we all calm down?

 

[Chariot190]

Jeez sorry, I thought you'd think that was funny

Why would being told I hate a game that just a lil while ago you got warned for doing by staff when you kept trying to say me and Dust hated it because we disagree with your takes?

instead of get pissed again. Nothing I ever say is to start shit other than a few laughs, shit just starts between us either way.

Nobody is buying that shit, you've been warned dozens of times, you've been warned on that very topic, doing it again and just going "it's just a prank", dude nobody is this dumb, stop that shit, stop it now, don't even attempt to justify it because at it's beyond justification at this point. Don't even reply to this, at all, I swear to God dude, I'm so far done with this shit and I definitely don't want to hear anymore excuses, just stop it, think before you type if that's the issue here, and drop it, and partake in the actual discussion like normal for once.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

The "actual discussion" is you starting shit about Vaati instead of Hyrule Warriors.

 

[Chariot190]

Bro I was joking about the 4-B part.

I'm not given he used to be 4-B for that.

Calm down, I don't seriously believe that and I know that FSA final boss is Trident Ganon.

Bro it ain't that serious I was just saying there's no way in hell he could ever be number 1, it's just impossible, ain't no way you're catching me pour even an ounce of vitriol into Vaati, his ass ain't worth it ong

I am actually neutral with his character, I like the design and the concept of him as a wizard. His actions are bad, just like any other villain? It's not like Ganondorf, Demise or Majora are better tho, If you think so you all give very little importance to life, which is actually a super important human right. But hey I won't judge or be mad if someone like a fictional villain with questionable morality, can we all calm down?

There's no way you just typed all that please say sike...

Actually why the hell am I being told I'm lowkey psychotic because Vaati is a sex offender because Ganon also kills people wtf.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Ain’t no way bro gets swept by Volvagia , ts bum is never appearing in another mainline game again

The funniest thing about the stupid purple freak is that in the minish cap he glaze's himself so hard that he declares himself "the demon god" despite the fact I don't think he'd even get an honorable mention if you made a top 50 strongest Zelda characters list it's so funny.

 

[Chariot190]

Also Demise, Majora and Ganon ARE better which says a lot given one is a neurodivergent piece of wood

The funniest thing about the stupid purple freak is that in the minish cap he glaze's himself so hard that he declares himself "the demon god" despite the fact I don't think he'd even get an honorable mention if you made a top 50 strongest Zelda characters list it's so funny.

Yeah see bro knows ball.
In fact, give me like 30m I'm gonna write out a list of every mf stronger than Vaati.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Holy shit man the guy just thinks Vaati is cool

 

[Dust_Collector]

How Vaati be acting when Blind the Thief pulls up

 

[Lgamer099_99]

Holy shit man the guy just thinks Vaati is cool

Wait until I suggest that the Zelda who fights Malladus and the Zelda he absorbs light force from should have similar amount of light force heritage from Hylia just to make Vaati large country level /j

Actually why the hell am I being told I'm lowkey psychotic

I am just saying I don't give a f*ck about Vaati or Ganondorf morality implications, they are fictional, they are cool, I won't support that sh*t irl just to make it clear but I won't give a damn in a videogame.
U all are the one crying over me joking about Vaati return in a game, man, did Vaati steal someone gf here too idk joking again but cmon, let's not fight over a fictional purple guy

 

[Nierre]

"The canonical sex offender who's canonical claim of fame is targeting young girls between the ages of 10 and 14 as per nintendo's own website is overhated"
"also shops at hot topic and gets slandered by literal scrubs"
Bro you gotta delete this comment right now...

nah his powers are sick that's all I care about

 

[Nierre]

Now I get why Vaati 4-B feat isn't used here, they don't want him to be the top 1 excluding full Triforce users, goddesses etc.

Can't deny you all that he looks majestic tho.

yeah I love his design one of my favorites tbh

 

[Dust_Collector]

I am just saying I don't give a f*ck about Vaati or Ganondorf morality implications, they are fictional, they are cool, I won't support that sh*t irl just to make it clear but I won't give a damn in a videogame.

We don't just slander him because of his morality (Although he gets extra digs because in addition to the normal evil shit he does similar to other villains he also adds in being a sex pest on top of it) but because he's canonically ass in universe. Literal deku scrubs slander him in Four Swords Adventures and this biggest gimmick/claim to fame is being THE wind mage (To the point his original name in japan is literally just "tornado") when he's not even in the top 5 best wind users in the series. Ghirahim uses wind magic a grand total of once and it completely puts that bum Vaati's dinky tornados to shame