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Hellaverse HUGE Changes

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So exactly what I thought would happen, happened.

1) Vox scales to a weakened Alastor and can harm him
2) Husk can still compare to Overlords
3) Alastor has no business scaling to Adam because even Rosie called him a damn fool for trying that.
 
I can't really take your argument seriously if you resort to use another person's opinion, instead of your own
Oh you can't take my argument seriously because I share and agree with someone's opinion because I feel like it's something I share? Also the reason I'm presenting the link is because I'm about to make a full on message explaining why I like a version of a character better in a CRT, I'm not that level of bored
 
3) Alastor has no business scaling to Adam because even Rosie called him a damn fool for trying that.
I guess Sans didn’t harm Frisk via Karma since he himself admitted that Frisk will eventually kill him in one of the turns anyways.
 
I guess Sans didn’t harm Frisk via Karma since he himself admitted that Frisk will eventually kill him in one of the turns anyways.
gang, I mess with you heavy and agree that Alastor should downscale adam in AP (should be faster than him in speed however) but this feels like false equivalence
 
gang, I mess with you heavy and agree that Alastor should downscale adam in AP (should be faster than him in speed however) but this feels like false equivalence
The point is that being unable to defeat someone and being “doomed” does not mean one cannot harm the opponent. He can harm but ultimately lose anyway.
 
I guess Sans didn’t harm Frisk via Karma since he himself admitted that Frisk will eventually kill him in one of the turns anyways.
I guess we're so desperate for Alastor to be anything but a High-tier that we're going to try scaling him to someone who canonically stomped him and even people with in-depth knowledge on his powers say he had zero chance of beating.
 
The point is that being unable to defeat someone and being “doomed” does not mean one cannot harm the opponent. He can harm but ultimately lose anyway.
harming someone only with dura neg but losing because the OPP is a time-controlling God disguised as a child and is far stronger than you ≠ barely harming someone because their stronger than you
 
now, as I said before, I do still agree, even with the new stuff, that Al should downscale adam with either his shadow or something else.
I just think using sans (the guy who literally cheats and uses dura neg to beat you) as an example of a weaker character harming a stronger one isn't the best thing to do, imo🥀🥀
 
I guess we're so desperate for Alastor to be anything but a High-tier that we're going to try scaling him to someone who canonically stomped him and even people with in-depth knowledge on his powers say he had zero chance of beating.
Thanos also stomped Iron-Man. Does it mean that drop of blood was fake and Thanos faked it to make poor Tony feel better? ):<
 
harming someone only with dura neg but losing because the OPP is a time-controlling God disguised as a child and is far stronger than you ≠ barely harming someone because their stronger than you
Fair, comparison wasn’t ideal, that’s just my limited knowledge on fiction tbh. I don’t really have that many verses to base off examples. I initially wanted to do Iron-Man & Thanos thingy I did in post above but Iron-Man being doomed isn’t recognized in-verse unlike Sans (tho anyone with common sense would say that Tony was indeed doomed there).
 
Funny story...
higher as Golden Frieza (Somewhat fought and held his own against Super Saiyan Broly for an hour, and his attacks were sometimes staggering Broly and occasionally forcing him to dodge, which makes him far stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta, who with a combined surprise attack couldn't do any damage to Broly)
But thing is Alastor did manage to harm him, he would at least downscale.
 
Feats > statements, especially since statement DOES NOT EVEN EXCLUDE the feat, the assertion that it does is just a slippery slope/strawman.
Also don’t forget General of Exorcists’ regen, so minor damage would still not really kill him in the end of the day. Makes even worse for “uhhh statement said he was doomed so ignore feats”.
 
Can we just address the elephant in the room that nobody is saying anything about for some reason?

Orange why the **** are you calling him “General of Exorcists”? he’s got a name just call him Adam lmao.
 
Can we just address the elephant in the room that nobody is saying anything about for some reason?

Orange why the **** are you calling him “General of Exorcists”? he’s got a name just call him his name lmao.
I said it long time ago in general discussion or some other CRT I think, it stems from religious reasons.

General of Exorcists sounds cooler
And that too.
 
Ok so if everyone's still up to downscaling him from adam, how does this effect Vox and other Overlords? He's kinda in a weird pickle rn since he prosumably downscales/scales to full power alastor (7-C) but also is comparable to a depowered version of Alastor (8-A) and with some implications that the other vees helped Vox win the first time. Even if he got help to win, that's still him downscaling from Alastor.
 
Ok so if everyone's still up to downscaling him from adam, how does this effect Vox and other Overlords? He's kinda in a weird pickle rn since he prosumably downscales/scales to full power alastor (7-C) but also is comparable to a depowered version of Alastor (8-A) and with some implications that the other vees helped Vox win the first time. Even if he got help to win, that's still him downscaling from Alastor.
The Vees were having trouble with a weakened AL, they don't scale to him at full, especially since the ep basically confirms that Vox didnt actually win
 
The Vees were having trouble with a weakened AL, they don't scale to him at full, especially since the ep basically confirms that Vox didnt actually win
Him not winning is unrelated whether he scales. By that same logic why is Alastor scaling to Adam since he didn't win either? Bottom line is that they fought when he was full power and Vox and Vees are at least comparable (albeit weaker)
 
Ok so if everyone's still up to downscaling him from adam, how does this effect Vox and other Overlords? He's kinda in a weird pickle rn since he prosumably downscales/scales to full power alastor (7-C) but also is comparable to a depowered version of Alastor (8-A) and with some implications that the other vees helped Vox win the first time. Even if he got help to win, that's still him downscaling from Alastor.
Vees could have sneak attacked. And we don’t know if Alastor used his strongest attacks and stuff or just basic attacks, and if he did it to a Full Demon Form before intervention.
Season 2 is out and you are still on assumption-scaling🥀
Sir Pentious also fought full power Alastor 20 times
He never took him seriously tho.
 
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