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A Child and Rey ig spends time with his Grandpa (Star Wars)

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Rules:
-Battle takes place in the Death Star
-"Rebels and Onward" Vader is used
-"Rise of Skywalker" Kylo is used
-"Rey's Last Key is used
-Spirits of the Jedi is restricted
-Distance is 5 Meters

Grandpa:


Grandson and Rey:
 
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Kylo is 9-A normally lmao and doesn't resist Vader's battle spiri- I mean conq haki- I mean passive fear hax. Pretty sure Vader also has better skillslop so theres that.
Going with Vader, low diff. Bordering a stomp but idk.
 
Kylo is 9-A normally
Technically, all force users are, since force amplification is always listed; we just don't list "naturally" in 99% of profiles.

This is because it's impossible to know when a force user isn't using amplification.

doesn't resist Vader's battle spiri- I mean conq haki- I mean passive fear hax.
You're right, the way the profiles are set up, that happens, but it's actually easy to solve, since Kylo can stay close to Zombie Sidious without soiling his pants. So it can kind of be added easily at any time, I just don't know if that would be enough to resist paralysis.
 
Isn't Vader still also technically more skilled? Kylo is only Sith Acolyte while Vader has everything from Anakin's key.
 
Both profiles need heavy updating, but despite a guide stating that Kylo could beat ESB Luke, who could already fight this Vader (acording to another guide), meaning he...is not instantly dying.

But well, Sequels Luke trained Rey for a veeeeeeery short while and she could already go blow-for-blow with him... how does that fair with one of the most skilled Jedi ever?

And we're not talking about Force, either!

If he's with Rey, Ben can possibly not die here.
 
but is Rey here?
IMO she should be or else Ben just dies within a minute of 'saber fight if not due to Force Choking
Ben is inspired by him but would be scared shitless if within his presence, he does not do anything here...

But if he was together with Rey, that's basically how they got to try and defeat Sidious
 
IMO she should be or else Ben just dies within a minute of 'saber fight if not due to Force Choking
Ben is inspired by him but would be scared shitless if within his presence, he does not do anything here...

But if he was together with Rey, that's basically how they got to try and defeat Sidious
there
 
Both profiles need heavy updating, but despite a guide stating that Kylo could beat ESB Luke, who could already fight this Vader (acording to another guide), meaning he...is not instantly dying.

But well, Sequels Luke trained Rey for a veeeeeeery short while and she could already go blow-for-blow with him... how does that fair with one of the most skilled Jedi ever?

And we're not talking about Force, either!

If he's with Rey, Ben can possibly not die here.
Given Luke was clearly getting his ass kicked....no


Bro lost his hand the moment Vader got serious. Before that, he was getting overwhelmed.
 
Given Luke was clearly getting his ass kicked....no


Bro lost his hand the moment Vader got serious. Before that, he was getting overwhelmed.
ESB Luke is stated to being able to put up a fight with Vader by a guide lol

But yeah, at the and he got his ass served, and Kylo competes with him, therefore Kylo alone gets his ass beaten too
That's why i said that Rey should be put here too, and now instead of a stomp, Vader mid-diffs them :>
 
ESB Luke is stated to being able to put up a fight with Vader by a guide lol

But yeah, at the and he got his ass served, and Kylo competes with him, therefore Kylo alone gets his ass beaten too
That's why i said that Rey should be put here too, and now instead of a stomp, Vader mid-diffs them :>
Sorry, but what is explicitly and blatantly shown in the movie is more reliable than some guide

"put up a fight" are pretty bold words when it's very clear Vader could have easily killed Luke if he wanted to
 
Sorry, but what is explicitly and blatantly shown in the movie is more reliable than some guide

"put up a fight" are pretty bold words when it's very clear Vader could have easily killed Luke if he wanted to
It's more a matter of technique.

Luke had enough strength to face Vader, but he lacked technique.

Another example is when Luke faces the Grand Inquisitor post-ESB. While the duel focused on lightsabers, the Grand Inquisitor even slightly insults Luke's combat technique, saying he uses the lightsaber like a child.

Soon after, Luke defeats him with basically a Force Push (which destroys almost the entire Grand Inquisitor's body) and a lightsaber strike. Later, the Grand Inquisitor tells Vader that Luke was too strong.

In terms of brute strength, Luke is strong enough to face Vader, but he lacks sufficient technique. There's a very large gap between Luke's brute power and technique.
 
Sorry, but what is explicitly and blatantly shown in the movie is more reliable than some guide

"put up a fight" are pretty bold words when it's very clear Vader could have easily killed Luke if he wanted to
Luke lands more than one direct blow on Vader, kicking him down the stairs early in the fight and even hitting his shoulder with his lightsaber that he couldn't block in time that if it had been slightly higher would have taken Vader's head off. Luke didn't get stomped with Vader remarking explicitly that Luke is incredibly impressive for someone with little to no training.
 
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