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Can't tell you about Ergen, but Kagami's thing is plot based (power of imagination) passive defense and active offense.
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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
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Minaaaa
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I'm assuming it's on a cm level knowing cultivator verses? And does it instantly cover sba distance
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No, they don't have concept stuff in this key (that's two keys up for general folk, depends for the rest), and yes it does cover SBA distance
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Shibai Ōtsutsuki
Shibai Ōtsutsuki (大筒おおつつ木き シバイ, Ōtsutsuki Shibai?) is a figure said to have transcended into godhood after his consumption of several God Trees over the course of several millennia, to the point where he no longer has use for a mortal body and instead has transcended into a higher plane of...
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Shibai should take the no 8 spot in tier 4B
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Smurf precog I'm afraid (I already suggested him)Shibai Ōtsutsuki
Shibai Ōtsutsuki (大筒おおつつ木き シバイ, Ōtsutsuki Shibai?) is a figure said to have transcended into godhood after his consumption of several God Trees over the course of several millennia, to the point where he no longer has use for a mortal body and instead has transcended into a higher plane of...
Shibai should take the no 8 spot in tier 4B
Dragonite007
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Smurf rangeShibai Ōtsutsuki
Shibai Ōtsutsuki (大筒おおつつ木き シバイ, Ōtsutsuki Shibai?) is a figure said to have transcended into godhood after his consumption of several God Trees over the course of several millennia, to the point where he no longer has use for a mortal body and instead has transcended into a higher plane of...
Shibai should take the no 8 spot in tier 4B
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AHH ****. I forgot about prescience
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Kinda lame that it counts given it doesn't actually give any real advantage that a regular future sight wouldn't (hell it's ASS in combat in its current form since Koji straight up can't even hold a conversation while observing new updates), but it makes sense given the rules.
You allow one minor exception and now everyone will expect exceptions.
Oliver_de_jesus
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i think his immesurable speed
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(which is wank because they're clearly flying through portals)
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Quick question due to the many smurf non smurf stuff.
What counts as a smurf again? I have read through the hax smurf section yet seeing some part of here makes me confused on it.
What counts as a smurf again? I have read through the hax smurf section yet seeing some part of here makes me confused on it.
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Anything that's at least uncountably infinitely higher than the characters own tier
Rikimarox2
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Anything that is at least 1 dimension (Assuming actual dimensional stuff) higher than the character. So a character having the ability to traverse to another dimension, or has spatial manipulation that reaches 4-D stuff? That's smurf. Even having higher-D range is considered smurf. There are some exceptions like normal time manip or whatever, but besides that, everything else is smurf.
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Hmm what about in terms of potency? Like say a guy that is 9-B has a 8-A hax or resistance to an 8-A hax kinda stuff.
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Allowed. Otherwise every stat amp would be a Smurf hax, which it isn't
Oliver_de_jesus
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8-A hax?
Anyway anything from 10-C to high 3-A count as non Smurf
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Ok so it's just if a 9-B character has 1-A resistance to some shit then it counts as a smurf?
Rikimarox2
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"8-A Hax potency" is just normal potency.
The reason characters that have a set tier (9-A, for example), and have a higher tiered attack or smth that is, say 8-A, is not considered smurf is because they are still considered 3-A. Any tier that is below (or equal to) High 3-A is considered 3-D, and hence, non-smurf. So you can have a 9-B character with an ability that is 3-A, and it is still fine.
If a 9-B character had 4-D resistances/abilities/range/etc... and above (ie tier 2 and above), then it is considered smurf
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Qurbonboev
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Is Kris Dreemurr eligible for this tournament? On one hand they have protection of Player, who is considered higher-dimensional being. On the other hand being higher dimensional no longer gives smurf hax(only 1-A)
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We still go by old Smurf standards. Even range can be Smurf here
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Higher D range can be smurf by the official standard as well. We have never changed any standard in a fashion that makes higher-dimensional stuff non-smurf.
Nonynho
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Let's put Light Novel's Gluttony Rimuru Tempest in the H6-B!
i would really love to never see this ever again, what an ugly trace IMO
This nomination sucks to find who actually scales to the feat, but using the protagonist, can't see him pretty much affecting Rimuru, Gluttony should take care of his kit with ease
She does resist some great amount of stuff, but Rimuru's Layered Power Absoption and his resistances to anything remotely dangerous from her kit should get him to emerge victorious
Page marked as outdated, shouldn't even be here
I couldn't find a way for them to bypass his LG Regen or his immos, he should resist large part if not the entirety of their kits
This nomination sucks to find who actually scales to the feat, but using the protagonist, can't see him pretty much affecting Rimuru, Gluttony should take care of his kit with ease
Again with the Immos+Regen, i think when EE doesn't do a thing Obito's throwing the towel lol
No joke, Rimuru resists everything i could read as an attack, and regens if anything does damage him
Another 100% resistable kits, i don't even know for sure how they're above the 5th position....things, idk what they are
The only thing i saw that could be a problem is the time manip stuff, so i would have to know if it's more IC for him to use that or the absorption that wouldn't work and Rimuru has better than him
I think Rimuru has what's needed to bypass his AE1, and all his kit is around special stuff that Rimuru resists, so yeah
Finally, someone with LG regen
She does resist some great amount of stuff, but Rimuru's Layered Power Absoption and his resistances to anything remotely dangerous from her kit should get him to emerge victorious
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The spot 1 is like China men layered stuff, but Rimuru still has a shot sue to the absence of CM1 and IM2 there
Nonynho
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Saw nothing about layers in the profile, soooo
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It's in the general Hax layer evaluation CRT, but I can't find the thread itself
Nonynho
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Hax Layer Evaluation Thread
The purpose of this thread is to evaluate which verses do and do not qualify for layered hax under the newly codified standards, much like Glass did for type 5 acausality not too long ago. Given the massive amount of ground that needs to be covered, this will be a somewhat disorganized thread...
It's strangely hard to find, yeah
Apparently 10 layers minimum, so yeah, i may be needing to revaluate if Rimuru still takes this, depending on what has those layers
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The creature is mindless and basically lacks the intelligence required to use most of it's abilities besides trying to devour everything. Sasha eyes can put it down permanently + has power null.
Stat advantage so that even non physical fighters like them take little damage from it on top of having a higher reaction speed. Her normal magic with enough power can unknowingly destroy it's concept (if it lacks resistance) or she can target it directly if she wishes and lets not forget the 20+ layers of hax and resistance to her name
Testarossa002
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Cadell has 6 layers of passive, fear hax (kilometres in range), 2 layers of power nullification and is over 5000x faster
Rimuru can't be killed, yes
But he can be easily incapped by cadell
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I think you mixed up the keys used a bit. It's the first key, not the second. Moreover the second key is basically a thing the first key can summon anytime he wants
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I couldn't have mixed it up when he said "gluttony" but even then, what I said still holds. Can still push for a higher spot though since Sasha can go higher, just wasn't in the mood to argue when she was added
Nonynho
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Y'all must put this type of **** in the profile
Quite annoying, forget i said anything
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Fear doesn't work because of Supernatural Willpower (Tensura is a willpower-based verse, so it's quite potent)
Powernull won't work because of Unconventional Resistance
The difference in speed doesn't mean anything since he can't even incap. If he destroys his physical body, Rimuru can just continue with the soul and I don't see IM2 interaction on his profile, which means he can't do anything to the soul. After that's settled, Rimuru can create an instant 50km barrier and burn everything inside (Assuming that Cadell would be keeping a 50km distance is rather unreasonable)
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Something something, Rimuru attacks get decayed away by Cadell's Soulfire and void wind
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Any proof it can decay CM1 and IM2?
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Like I said though you can still push for a higher spot above them
Just cause CM 1 and IM 2 is used to spawn fire doesn't mean the same is needed to affect it.
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In this case, it quite literally is. Because this isn't just what is used to create it, it's the nature. For example, you can't extinguish a magical flame with water or any regular means, because it isn't actually fire, but the idea of burning being manifested into reality through some CM1 and other things and the result is a conceptual fire, not a normal one. It quite literally is an idea and a concept itself
